Van Jones being DRAGGED for confusing Mary J. Blige song with Beyonce

CNN host Van Jones mistakenly identified the song Vice President-elect Kamala Harris walked out to before her speech on Saturday, and now people are dragging him on Twitter.

"It was great to hear Kamala. I want to decode some of stuff Kamala did for the base of this party," Jones said on CNN after Harris finished her speech.

"First of all, she walked out to Beyoncé. Drop mic," he said. "The fact that somebody that's gonna be in the White House can walk out authentically to Beyoncé was amazing. People were going nuts about the walkout song."

The only issue was that Harris didn't walk out to a Beyoncé song — she actually walked out to "Work That" by Mary J. Blige.

People on Twitter subsequently dragged Jones for confusing the two singers.

Representatives for Jones didn't immediately respond to Insider's requests for comment.

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by Anonymousreply 122November 10, 2020 1:24 PM

How offensive for Mary J.

by Anonymousreply 3November 8, 2020 11:48 PM

That's as bad as a proper white gay confusing a Gaga song with Katy Perry.

by Anonymousreply 4November 8, 2020 11:49 PM

What's on Van Jones' iPod?

by Anonymousreply 5November 8, 2020 11:50 PM

He is such a phony.

You should have seen his crocodile tears, crying for his children, because Kamala was elected.

But wasn't this the same Van Jones who was licking Trump's ass for the past four years?

FRAUD.

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by Anonymousreply 6November 8, 2020 11:50 PM

[Quote] What's on Van Jones' iPod?

Lynyrd Skynyrd.

by Anonymousreply 7November 8, 2020 11:50 PM

I'm a lily white cracker and even I know who fucking Mary J. Blige is. I can name a number of her songs. He has no excuse.

by Anonymousreply 8November 8, 2020 11:52 PM

Does Van know how hated he is by people or does he reside in some impermeable bubble?

CNN is just awful. They have way too many Republicans on.

by Anonymousreply 9November 8, 2020 11:53 PM

[quote] What's on Van Jones' iPod?

Glenn Campbell.

Bobby Pickett.

Garth Brooks.

by Anonymousreply 10November 8, 2020 11:58 PM

As if there is any difference.

by Anonymousreply 12November 8, 2020 11:59 PM

Pic of the elderly Van - what a coon!

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by Anonymousreply 13November 9, 2020 12:09 AM

Mary J. is a very recognizable screamger

by Anonymousreply 14November 9, 2020 12:10 AM

In his defense, he hangs out with Jared and Ivanka, so he probably only ever hears Maroon 5.

by Anonymousreply 15November 9, 2020 12:12 AM

[quote]CNN is just awful. They have way too many Republicans on.

Agreed. Every single time I turned to CNN the past few days, it was that fucking vile POS Rick Santorum on camera. How the fuck Anderson Cooper could continually lick Santorum's asshole each night was beyond me.

by Anonymousreply 16November 9, 2020 12:18 AM

R13 Indeed, the coonery is high with him.

PS: For those of you who do not know, that word - which has been used as a slur in the past - is often used, especially by black people on social media, to refer to black conservatives, or a black person who looks down on others (think Candace Owens)

by Anonymousreply 17November 9, 2020 12:18 AM

As an old white beach bum, I also thought it was Beyonce. Reading this thread is the first I'm hearing that it wasn't. I don't really care and I don't hate Van Jones. I rarely see Van Jones because I watch MSNBC and hardly ever turn to CNN.

I did do a little hate-watching of Faux Noise on Saturday but it was disappointing. I feel deprived of my rightful schadenfreude experience so far.

I want to watch Hannity, Shmucker and Lowra be sad and weird and outraged at the outrage of it all! In theory they will be back on propaganda duty tomorrow night, right?

And I will laugh and laugh and laugh...

Good times.

by Anonymousreply 18November 9, 2020 12:19 AM

I know the fucking word, R17, I remember it well.

You can shut the fuck up and get the fuck out.

Unacceptable.

CUNT.

by Anonymousreply 19November 9, 2020 12:21 AM

R17, is that one of those words that where people aren’t allowed to say? Im

by Anonymousreply 20November 9, 2020 12:21 AM

I thought it was Beyoncé at the beginning and then realized it was Mary JB

by Anonymousreply 21November 9, 2020 12:22 AM

[quote]What's on Van Jones' iPod?

Pat Boone

by Anonymousreply 22November 9, 2020 12:24 AM

Rofl R22! Pat Boone!

That's the guy I was trying to think of, but I couldn't remember his name.

Thanks for refreshing my memory.

by Anonymousreply 23November 9, 2020 12:25 AM

I'm sorry for the confusion. I only thought that most people knew that the contemporary meaning of "Coon" refers to an AA person who regularly betrays his own people through word or (mis)deed. Best, R13.

by Anonymousreply 25November 9, 2020 12:27 AM

People were already mad at him for crying when Biden won, because they'd already forgotten that he was working with Trump and even said just 2 weeks ago that Trump had done a lot for black people, and when they were reminded they felt played.

This happening the next day didn't endear him with anyone.

by Anonymousreply 26November 9, 2020 12:29 AM

If he had any credibility with the black community, it's now GONE.

He must feel so fucking stupid right now.

This is going to follow him around, until he's dead.

by Anonymousreply 27November 9, 2020 12:29 AM

[quote]He is such a phony.

Which is why he fits in well with the rest of the US mainstream news media.

by Anonymousreply 29November 9, 2020 12:41 AM

R9

CNN is fucking awful.

They pay money to freaking Rick Santorum to be a contributor; a guy who is the anti-gay equivalent of a KKK grand wizard.

We should not be giving ratings to that network. MSNBC grates on my nerves pretty often, but fuck if I'm ever going to switch the channel to CNN ever again.

by Anonymousreply 30November 9, 2020 12:46 AM

The "personality" culture of US news broadcasters is truly distateful.

by Anonymousreply 31November 9, 2020 12:53 AM

R30, same here. I haven't watched CNN in probably 15-20 years. MSNBC I've watched a lot since the election season started. I like Nicole Wallace

by Anonymousreply 32November 9, 2020 1:01 AM

R32, I like Nicolle Wallace as a host, against my better judgment. I can't forgive her for working for Bush Jr. though. She's very likeable though. I have to remind myself that I don't forgive her.

Chris Hayes is probably my favorite MSNBC host, followed by Lawrence. I like Rachel in theory, but her delivery irks me if I listen to her speak too often...

by Anonymousreply 33November 9, 2020 1:10 AM

I like Lawrence, but he disappointed me by bringing on Charlie Cook who made me think it would be a better outcome and the Dems would have the Senate.

by Anonymousreply 34November 9, 2020 1:14 AM

Has Fredricka Whitfield commented?

by Anonymousreply 35November 9, 2020 1:14 AM

Crime. Against. Humanity.

by Anonymousreply 36November 9, 2020 1:15 AM

Van's popularity is all based on his good looks. No one would pay attention otherwise.

And just to show how shallow I am, has anyone ever seen a photo of Van shirtless or even without a suit and tie? I've looked.....

by Anonymousreply 37November 9, 2020 1:17 AM

How the fuck does anyone confuse those two? They aren't remotely similar.

by Anonymousreply 38November 9, 2020 1:22 AM

R34

He does verge into schmaltzy naively optimistic cheerleader mode pretty often. Not so much that I can't stomach it, but he's definitely prone to promoting an overly rosy forecast for dems.

by Anonymousreply 39November 9, 2020 1:23 AM

My good friend on Twitter calls him Vanilla Jones. That's about right. Jones is a FAKE ass black man. He enabled Trump for 3.75 years. Dismissed Kamala Harris because her accomplishments don't fit with his "charitable" work in prison reform. He's a good friend to Kim Kardashian. You can see through his preacher glasses that he wants her ASS. I think he should have it too. Go on Van. Kanye can't get in there.

Van Jones is handsome. No way around it. But since we ain't gonna be fucking I can dislike him.

All the commentators combined on CNN aren't worth one Nicole Wallace.

by Anonymousreply 40November 9, 2020 1:23 AM

R38, because I don't know what either of them sound like, not really.

Now, if he had confused Aretha for Beyonce (or anyone else) then I would have known.

by Anonymousreply 41November 9, 2020 1:30 AM

R40

Haha, that's funny... I refer to heiress-newsreader Anderson Cooper as 'Vanilla Squeezy'.

It's a variation on when Roy Moore's lawyer appeared on Don Lemon and referred to him as 'Don Lemon Easy Squeezy' and Don with stone-cold serious face said something like "Sir, my name is Don, not Lemon Squeezy." That was hilariously surreal.

by Anonymousreply 42November 9, 2020 1:30 AM

Van Jones is of an age where he should know the difference between Beyonce and Mary J. Blige.

by Anonymousreply 43November 9, 2020 1:33 AM

Is there footage of Anderson Cooper correcting him?

by Anonymousreply 44November 9, 2020 1:36 AM

He claps on the 1 and the 3.

by Anonymousreply 45November 9, 2020 1:36 AM

^ So handsome, and so wrong. What a fool. Vanilla Jones.

by Anonymousreply 47November 9, 2020 1:41 AM

That clip of him crying had me in stitches. Someone get that girl an Oscar!

by Anonymousreply 48November 9, 2020 1:43 AM

He's as white as Clarence Thomas.

by Anonymousreply 49November 9, 2020 1:45 AM

He's such a good looking guy but such a shameless media whore.

by Anonymousreply 50November 9, 2020 1:48 AM

Good thing it wasn't a white person who got the two singers confused.

His career would be over.

by Anonymousreply 51November 9, 2020 1:50 AM

[quote] He claps on the 1 and the 3.

so did Pat Boone

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by Anonymousreply 52November 9, 2020 1:52 AM

Mary J. Blige became Beyonce in that moment, period

by Anonymousreply 53November 9, 2020 1:55 AM

Yeah Van's stock just dropped majorly in the Black community for some petty shit like this! he won't be invited to the cookout any time soon

So this is how it is now, every cute song sung by a Black woman is Beyonce's? I like Beyonce but damn. Expand your Black music horizons, America.

by Anonymousreply 54November 9, 2020 1:58 AM

If Van Damme and Star Jones had a baby, he'd be Van Jones.

by Anonymousreply 55November 9, 2020 3:18 AM

What do you expect from the man trying to convince us that Kim Kardashian is a brilliant legal mind?!

by Anonymousreply 56November 9, 2020 3:28 AM

Van Jones is a church going man with kids. He should be fucking around. Not because so many of us find him sexy. Dude is 52 and still fine from the neck up. He just vibes hypocrite. Never forget ....He worked on every expedient cause of the time, including with Newt Gangrene. And Kim K. And don't forget this...

[quote]Jones commented "It's not the racist white person who is in the Ku Klux Klan that we have to worry about. It's the white liberal Hillary Clinton supporter walking her dog in Central Park who would tell you right now, you know, people like that – 'oh, I don't see race, race is no big deal to me, I see us all as the same, I give to charities. But the minute she sees a black man who she does not respect or who she has a slight thought against, she weaponized race like she had been trained by the Aryan Nation."

by Anonymousreply 57November 9, 2020 3:32 AM

[quote]Dude is 52 and still fine from the neck up.

lol. He's always covered up so he might have a nice bawdy, for a 52 y.o.

by Anonymousreply 58November 9, 2020 4:12 AM

[quote] lol. He's always covered up so he might have a nice bawdy, for a 52 y.o.

Van is one of those rare people who look better on TV than in person.

by Anonymousreply 59November 9, 2020 4:25 AM

Queen? Oh hell no, that is a heterosexual.

by Anonymousreply 61November 9, 2020 9:54 AM

They don’t even sound alike.

by Anonymousreply 62November 9, 2020 10:05 AM

Mary J. Blige's manager donates millions to a gay conversion therapy camp (Mercy Multiplied) that performs exorcisms on lesbians.

by Anonymousreply 64November 9, 2020 10:38 AM

Maybe he doesn't listen to their type of music. I don't know these women's songs either.

by Anonymousreply 65November 9, 2020 10:55 AM

I don't know all white singers' music, is that wrong?

by Anonymousreply 66November 9, 2020 10:59 AM

"Good thing it wasn't a white person who got the two singers confused.

His career would be over."

Are you assuming a white person would know the name of two black singers?

You are so droll!

by Anonymousreply 67November 9, 2020 11:23 AM

They all sound the same to him.

by Anonymousreply 68November 9, 2020 11:39 AM

I am so smitten with Van Jones' face and voice and he pings to me. In fact, I actually carried on an affair with a black man I met at a Marriott bathroom in DC that looked exactly like him. And I sucked and got fucked by a fantasy that it was Van.

SOOO sexy.

Any shirtless pics?

But yeah, I thought it was sad that he cried like that but never got angry or emotional with any of the garbage that Aunty Santorum was spouting for hours.

Any pics/rumors of his size meat?

by Anonymousreply 69November 9, 2020 11:59 AM

Why do some of you comment without even a clue of the context? Van Jones was making a point about the significance of TWO black women, Kamala Harris and Beyonce Knowles. He wasn't asked who the singer was and he guessed wrong. He spoke as an "expert" - "Let me decode..." - but he exposed his own ignorance in the process. If you're going to speak on Beyonce's significance then you should at least be able to recognize her voice.

by Anonymousreply 70November 9, 2020 12:59 PM

For the white eldergays -- it's like confusing Aretha Franklin with Diana Ross. If you can't tell the difference talk about something else.

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by Anonymousreply 71November 9, 2020 3:25 PM

I do wonder if Van is pear-shaped and short-legged and that's why there are no internet photos of him from the waist down, much less shirtless.

Has anyone here seen him in person?

by Anonymousreply 72November 9, 2020 4:07 PM

Not pearshaped. He doesn't dress well.

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by Anonymousreply 73November 9, 2020 4:13 PM

He looks like your average tall dork.

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by Anonymousreply 75November 9, 2020 4:15 PM

What's this guy's name again?

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by Anonymousreply 76November 9, 2020 4:16 PM

Dale Bitch Tits. He's gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 77November 9, 2020 5:08 PM

R70 = Uncle Tom Van Jones

by Anonymousreply 78November 9, 2020 6:15 PM

[quote] Has anyone here seen him in person?

Yes. He is slim with bird legs.

by Anonymousreply 79November 9, 2020 8:08 PM

I always confuse him with Lester Holt.

by Anonymousreply 81November 9, 2020 10:33 PM

Surprised seeing these full length photos with his ill-fitting suits. I always think on camera from the waist up behind a desk he looks very well tailored. HIs shirts and ties are impeccably chosen and worn.

by Anonymousreply 82November 9, 2020 11:58 PM

Maybe the TV station has a wardrobe department?

by Anonymousreply 83November 10, 2020 12:06 AM

I have, r72. He's built just like Miss Ann Sothern.

by Anonymousreply 84November 10, 2020 12:11 AM

It’s okay, Van. I get Neil Sedaka and Paul Anka mixed up all the time.

by Anonymousreply 85November 10, 2020 12:17 AM

But do you wax lyrical on Neil Sedaka's cultural significance?

by Anonymousreply 86November 10, 2020 12:21 AM

I don't listen to either but from what I heard, Beyonce is pretty generic sounding.

by Anonymousreply 87November 10, 2020 12:22 AM

And is Mary J generic sounding?

by Anonymousreply 88November 10, 2020 12:24 AM

[quote] And is Mary J generic sounding?

Those people all sound alike to me.

by Anonymousreply 89November 10, 2020 12:26 AM

Mary J is a real talent, and has better songs than Beyonce. Unfortunately she was "too R&B" to really cross over into the mainstream.

by Anonymousreply 90November 10, 2020 2:03 AM

R71

Thank you.

This thread finally makes sense to me.

by Anonymousreply 91November 10, 2020 2:04 AM

Mary J has had plenty of mainstream success. She even had a hit with a U2 duet.

by Anonymousreply 92November 10, 2020 2:05 AM

Say what you will, but Van Jones is a smoking hot stud and I would love to ride him into the morning!

by Anonymousreply 93November 10, 2020 2:07 AM

Mary J had a few crossover pop hits, but most of her (insanely good) catalog was confined to R&B charts. Exactly the same thing with Chaka Khan, another brilliant singer with fabulous material who should've had more success but was "too R&B." They both make Beyonce look like a hack.

BTW, in one of the two recent Whitney Houston documentaries, there were several record executives who were interviewed and went into a lot of detail about how Whitney was packaged by Clive Davis and Arista to appeal to a mainstream white audience. One of the most important things was to not give her songs that were R&B/Soul-heavy because she wouldn't cross over with that material.

by Anonymousreply 94November 10, 2020 2:25 AM

Mary J Blige is THE R&B HipHop superstar and legend. I'm not joking. Beyonce was queen of the world for 15 years, and like it or not, the world's greatest live performer. Even if you don't like her vocal tone - she is an extremely gifted singer. You're old gay whiteness shows Datalounge. Van Jones has a flabby white ass too. I want to kiss him. Nice face and lips with dark candy eyes. But don't look down.

by Anonymousreply 95November 10, 2020 2:25 AM

Mary J has had 16 Top 40 hits, 6 of which went Top 20. She's had more than a few crossover hits. And she sold albums too.

by Anonymousreply 96November 10, 2020 2:28 AM

[Quote] One of the most important things was to not give her songs that were R&B/Soul-heavy because she wouldn't cross over with that material.

And yet most of Whitney's big pop hits were huge R&B hits as well, so the "Whiteney" thing was largely an industry creation.

by Anonymousreply 97November 10, 2020 2:29 AM

Jones is undeniably sexy IMO. That said, I can't stand his commentary - useless, jellyfishy, sanctimonious and suspiciously influenced by his association with JarVanka. I watch MSNBC for factual news, FOX for entertaining propaganda (that keeps me informed of new false narratives that the Mercers/Murdochs/Koch are pushing) and CNN almost never because it adds little value for me. If Van is on - best to hit the mute button and envision him grabbing his ankles.

by Anonymousreply 98November 10, 2020 2:31 AM

[Quote] One of the most important things was to not give her songs that were R&B/Soul-heavy because she wouldn't cross over with that material.

That's an oversimplification. Arista tried to play both sides. And it was Whitney who wanted to record schlock like "Greatest Love of All."

by Anonymousreply 99November 10, 2020 2:32 AM

Whether or not you liked the actual songs that she recorded, Whitney had the sort of angelic, far-ranging voice that only comes along once in a century. Ne one could cover her music and those that actually could (Celine maybe?) still couldn't do it justice. I am not discounting Beyonce or Mary J. Blidge - but neither compare to Whitney Houston. There is Auto-Tune and there was Whitney Houston.

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by Anonymousreply 100November 10, 2020 2:42 AM

[Quote] far-ranging voice that only comes along once in a century

How many centuries have you been around to be able to make such a comment?

by Anonymousreply 101November 10, 2020 2:44 AM

Whitney never sang the bridge to "I'm Every Woman" live. That tells you something about her range.

by Anonymousreply 102November 10, 2020 2:45 AM

The funny thing is for all the talk of Whitney as a "clipped wing" R&B talent, she was always at her best down the middle - pop soul, dance-pop, MOR.

by Anonymousreply 103November 10, 2020 2:48 AM

r97 What was said in the doc was that they didn't want Whitney to be the female James Brown. And black audiences in the 80s did call her "Whiteney." It was said that getting booed at the Soul Train awards was one of the things that set her off into a downward spiral. She never got over it.

by Anonymousreply 104November 10, 2020 2:57 AM

Robyn Crawford's book makes it quite clear that they were both dependent on drugs BEFORE Whitney became a success. Her demons were already in place. And if "black audiences" considered her Whiteney, who was requesting her songs on black radio?

by Anonymousreply 105November 10, 2020 2:59 AM

r105 you need to watch both docs. It's all laid out.

Whitney was a recreational coke user (like everybody else) in the 80s but once she hooked up with Bobby she got hooked. That's also when she starting smoking the shit. Once you start smoking it, it's almost impossible to quit.

by Anonymousreply 106November 10, 2020 3:03 AM

Whitney did love Greatest Love of All. There are more performances of her singing that song than a crescendo can bare. She sang the fuck out of it, but it's my least favorite of hers. She loved it. But make no mistake - she wanted to do more urban music as soon as she matured a bit. Not to please the black audience, to please herself. When she sang One Moment in Time at the Grammys or the Welcome Home Heroes Concert - she established her voice as the greatest and most beautiful of her time. More thrilling and powerful than Streisand or Aretha. In her way. Whitney knew what great singing was about.

But Whitney loved Janet and Brandy and Monica and Natalie C and Lauryn Hill and that bad boy with the beat too. Make no mistake. She loved Mary J Blige and Chaka too. They partied for sure. Whitney knew her voice was greatness - so she enjoyed singing soaring songs, beautiful ballads and those key changing long note vibrato polished perfect finish showstoppers. But she had more to her taste and style. Whitney was urban. A gospel girl. She was a physical and vocal goddess. Can't fight it your destiny. But you can explore beyond it.

Here is a great interview with her. She is aware and co-operative. Astute, appreciative. Interested in her new direction. She'd already proved everything else. Then came My Love Is Your Love. A classic album. Doesn't matter that old white men don't remember it as well as her other triumphs. It's a great fucking achievement. Also a smart segway and adaptation to her somewhat diminished vocal prowess. Before she really fell hard.

To say her voice was the greatest voice in popular music in a century, is not hyperbole. Read what her peers and fans have to say, as well as vocal critics everywhere. Whitney had the best voice I've ever heard in my life. Streisand, Aretha, Tony Bennett and Gladys Knight said so. Tens of millions of others agree. She is the G.O.A.T.

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by Anonymousreply 107November 10, 2020 3:04 AM

[Quote] you need to watch both docs. It's all laid out.

I did. Robyn Crawford's book is the best account thus far.

by Anonymousreply 108November 10, 2020 3:04 AM

[Quote] Whitney was a recreational coke user (like everybody else) in the 80s but once she hooked up with Bobby she got hooked

There was drug use among the Houston siblings in their pre teens and teens. Robyn tells of how Whitney had to be picked up to even get her out of bed to go to school. The bullying Whitney suffered has been much referenced. But what goes unstated in Robyn's anecdote is that Cissy and John couldn't be relied upon to get Whitney to school. Sadly, the same could be said of Whitney and Bobby as parents to Bobbi Kristina.

by Anonymousreply 109November 10, 2020 3:07 AM

Yes, there was drug use but Whitney didn't turn into a full blown addict until Bobby Brown.

by Anonymousreply 110November 10, 2020 3:09 AM

[Quote] She was a physical and vocal goddess.

I know you're not referring to her dancing.

by Anonymousreply 112November 10, 2020 3:10 AM

[Quote] Whitney didn't turn into a full blown addict until Bobby Brown.

Whitney told Robyn that they had to cut the coke out, that there was no place for it where they were going (i.e. to the top). And did they cut it out? No. They were already hooked. Robyn was even disturbed enough by her own use that she called a family meeting where both her (divorced) parents attended. Whitney was already an addict, She was simply more functional in the 1980s until the early 1990s.

by Anonymousreply 113November 10, 2020 3:13 AM

Whitney by all accounts was not an addict until Bobby Brown. She partied, of course, but she wasn't a daily user.

by Anonymousreply 114November 10, 2020 3:17 AM

Hey, bitches, I'm still here!

by Anonymousreply 115November 10, 2020 4:05 AM

Van looks more and more like some character in an old timey movie all the damn time. Why doesn't he show his body in better suits? He does NOT ever want to appear anything like gay or sexy and he's into prison culture. And high class invites. That crying jag. I don't think he was acting. He's just a baby. And a good family man who has a lot of secrets. None of them gay. It's possible that in addition to being a Kardashian fucker, Vanilla Jones is just a big ole nerd. Fuck him. His body looks flabby.

He looks like a character from Ragtime.

by Anonymousreply 116November 10, 2020 4:32 AM

[Quote] a good family man

[Quote] a Kardashian fucker

by Anonymousreply 117November 10, 2020 4:41 AM

[quote]I get Neil Sedaka and Paul Anka mixed up all the time.

Fuck you!

by Anonymousreply 118November 10, 2020 6:05 AM

Why did he and Amy Carter get divorced?

by Anonymousreply 119November 10, 2020 6:08 AM

[quote] I get Neil Sedaka and Paul Anka mixed up all the time.

And if you did who would care enough to make vile racist remarks about your error, Just as I don't give a damn I too can't recognize the difference between the ladies.

Maybe they should ask if he can distinguish cloned talk show hosts.

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by Anonymousreply 120November 10, 2020 6:54 AM

so sizemeat verificatia??

by Anonymousreply 121November 10, 2020 12:52 PM

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