Two gay men murdered in Ireland

Not much reading between the lines required here. The murders are described as similar, and one of them has been described as a hate crime where victim and offender met online.

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by Anonymousreply 69October 24, 2023 4:43 PM

Gardaí (i.e. Irish police) are now saying there was a "homophobic element" to the murders.

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by Anonymousreply 1April 13, 2022 4:47 PM

[quote]there was a "homophobic element" to the murders.

If it was pink hearts, yellow moons and green clovers scattered about, I might have a suspect.

by Anonymousreply 3April 13, 2022 5:39 PM

According to locals on Twitter, at least one of the murdered men was BEHEADED and the man arrested was a Turk. Remember that it's Ramadan right now in the religion of peace.

by Anonymousreply 5April 13, 2022 7:50 PM

Um, did you see the story today of a good Christian family kidnapping and torturing a gay man

by Anonymousreply 6April 13, 2022 8:02 PM

R5, now do the Christians who murdered Allen Schindler and Matthew Shepherd

by Anonymousreply 7April 13, 2022 8:04 PM

Going by their proportion in the population of Western countries, Muslims should be responsible for almost no murders of gays. And that isn't the case - they are clearly over-represented (Bath in the UK, Pulse in Florida, etc.)

by Anonymousreply 8April 13, 2022 8:08 PM

Apparently Sligo in Western Ireland only has a population of 20k and has a history of homophobic attacks.

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by Anonymousreply 9April 13, 2022 8:43 PM

R8, interesting that you focus on their religion, rather than that they are straight men, or just minorities, or 5 ‘ 10”.

You chose the characteristic that suits your narrative at the moment

by Anonymousreply 10April 13, 2022 8:44 PM

And gay men are bashed and killed by Christians overwhelmingly—but you only bring up religion when a non-Christian is involved.

Why is the religion the cause when it’s a Muslim but never religion when it’s a Christian?

by Anonymousreply 11April 13, 2022 8:46 PM

And interesting, R10, that you choose to divert attention away from a factor which obviously predisposes people to murdering gay men, i.e. being a Muslim. What saddens me about this is that those who are sowing the wind are not reaping the whirlwind.

by Anonymousreply 12April 13, 2022 9:00 PM

R11 Is that actually true? Christians aren't usually violent.

R7 Matthew Shepherd was killed by an ex-boyfriend. It's not news.

by Anonymousreply 13April 13, 2022 9:06 PM

This is sad and horrible, by the way. Poor men.

by Anonymousreply 14April 13, 2022 9:07 PM

R13, no. He wasn't killed by an ex-boyfriend. He was gaybashed, then the killers decided to change their stories.

by Anonymousreply 15April 13, 2022 9:28 PM

R12, there's no evidence that Muslims are much more likely to kill gay men then people of any other religion

You don't have the data to back up your claims

by Anonymousreply 16April 13, 2022 9:29 PM

Maybe we should ask why 90% of gaybashers and 90% of murderers in general, are men.

by Anonymousreply 17April 13, 2022 9:30 PM

R16 I didn't say anything about Muslims, just that Christians don't go around killing people with religious motivations much. The only actual examples I can think of are all fictional- although I'm sure there are real life cases.

Also... have you ever heard of a Buddhist, Hindu, or Jewish religiously-motivated murder carried out in the West? I can't think of one.

R15 Bullshit. It was over Meth. Again, not news. You must have loved "Laramie."

by Anonymousreply 18April 13, 2022 9:38 PM

and?? how many straight men were killed the very same day?

by Anonymousreply 19April 13, 2022 9:39 PM

R6 they were redneck scumbaga but how do we know that they were Christian ?

Stop defending Muslims who want us dead!

by Anonymousreply 20April 13, 2022 9:42 PM

It was a non-Irish Muslim import, but the Irish Twitterati are making it about "homophobia" and blaming JK Rowling, for some reason.

by Anonymousreply 21April 13, 2022 9:45 PM

R18, America is a heavily Christian nation and yet we have a high crime rate

And, no, Matthew Shepherd wasn't killed over meth. Why are you taking the lying murderers at their word? If it was about meth they would have just said that to begin with

by Anonymousreply 22April 13, 2022 9:47 PM

Only a tiny % of murders are committed by Muslims

by Anonymousreply 23April 13, 2022 9:48 PM

R22 Bitch, get off this thread. It's not about Matthew Shepherd.

by Anonymousreply 24April 13, 2022 9:55 PM

R24, bitch, stop repeating the lies his killers told.

by Anonymousreply 25April 13, 2022 9:58 PM

Why is this not making the international news the way the lesbian bashing did? I guess dykes and trannies are higher up on the oppression pyramid. Nobody cares if gays get murdered.

by Anonymousreply 26April 13, 2022 10:00 PM

As soon as I saw the headline, I simply assumed the murderer would be a Muslim.

The things you learn living in Europe...

by Anonymousreply 27April 13, 2022 10:01 PM

R26 what lesbian bashing? Most people like or have no problems with lesbians

It's gay men that gets people CRAZY with hate

by Anonymousreply 28April 13, 2022 10:02 PM

r26 because it happened in Ireland, and it did make the news, as you're reading about it. UK is bigger and has a much bigger media that is disseminated to the rest of the world, Ireland, not so much.

by Anonymousreply 29April 13, 2022 10:03 PM

R27, then you must know that only a small % of murders in Europe are committed by Muslims

by Anonymousreply 30April 13, 2022 10:07 PM

As soon as I heard about the murder I knew the killer would be male.

Like 95% of murders in Europe are committed by men

by Anonymousreply 31April 13, 2022 10:08 PM

R31 and most of the victims are MEN, particularly gay men

If over 90% of LGBT hate crimes are targeted towards MEN, then why don't we have our own movement

We're the ones getting beaten and murdered!

by Anonymousreply 32April 13, 2022 10:11 PM

R30 You do not know what you are talking about.

Speaking for Italy where I lived for decades, Muslim men are way over represented when it comes to crime compared to their population number.

by Anonymousreply 33April 13, 2022 10:11 PM

And any gay man learns to be careful around them.

by Anonymousreply 34April 13, 2022 10:12 PM

R33, and yet you provided zero data. And of course the overall homicide rate in Italy is lower than in the US, a predominantly Christian nation

by Anonymousreply 35April 13, 2022 10:14 PM

r35 I'm not r33 but the reason Italy's homicide rate is lower is because Italy doesn't promote and encourage the sale and use of guns like the US. Most European countries don't, which has a big impact on murders.

by Anonymousreply 36April 13, 2022 10:23 PM

[quote]and yet you provided zero data. And of course the overall homicide rate in Italy is lower than in the US, a predominantly Christian nation

The prison population in Italy is 33% foreign born. Way over-represented.

The breakdown by country of origin is here.

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by Anonymousreply 37April 13, 2022 10:29 PM

R31 As soon as I heard about the murder, I knew that someone died. Happens in 100% of all murders.

by Anonymousreply 38April 13, 2022 10:30 PM

Funny how Swedish men have suddenly become gang members and have made Sweden the gun violence capital of Europe....

Uh, er...they are Swedish men aren't they? Well?

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by Anonymousreply 39April 13, 2022 10:39 PM

[quote]Um, did you see the story today of a good Christian family kidnapping and torturing a gay man

I hadn't heard about this, R6.

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by Anonymousreply 40April 14, 2022 12:02 AM

Y’all are gonna learn to stop getting involved with these disgusting violent Muzzies. They are psychotic animals who don’t belong in the Western world.

by Anonymousreply 41April 14, 2022 12:06 AM

R33- wait a minute, are you saying the US is a more Christian country than ITALY? Where the friggin' Pope lives!? The home seat of Catholicism?!

I'm not going to enter into most of this fight, but get the fuck out of here with that.

by Anonymousreply 42April 14, 2022 12:43 AM

R35! Sorry, not 33! I was very amused by that.

by Anonymousreply 43April 14, 2022 12:44 AM

R43 Yes, R35's statement was so absurd, I couldn't even respond to it.

by Anonymousreply 44April 14, 2022 12:57 AM

Murderous Musllim pig strikes again. Why are even want to be in Europe when they despise almost everything that we are?

Fuck them!

by Anonymousreply 45April 14, 2022 6:20 AM

The poor guys. It’s really so so upsetting.

by Anonymousreply 47April 16, 2022 5:06 AM

Muslims are dangerous wild animals that belong in a zoo.

by Anonymousreply 48April 16, 2022 5:29 AM

Diversity is a failed experiment.

by Anonymousreply 49April 16, 2022 5:40 AM

[quote] Maybe we should ask why 90% of gaybashers and 90% of murderers in general, are men.

Because men are strong and you are weak and that is life, lesbo.

by Anonymousreply 50April 16, 2022 6:00 AM

I cannot believe this isn’t making bigger headlines, it’s not even in the Daily Fail, or BBC.

by Anonymousreply 51April 16, 2022 8:27 AM

It’s amazing that the Pulse shooting is still talked about as a gay hate crime when the shooter didn’t even know it was a gay club. He just wanted a crowded place. Our media is so broken.

by Anonymousreply 52April 16, 2022 9:29 AM

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by Anonymousreply 53April 16, 2022 12:26 PM

[R52] the only thing we should learn from this is the left is no longer our friend. They allowed and protected these animals to murder us.

by Anonymousreply 54April 18, 2022 7:52 PM

[quote] I didn't say anything about Muslims, just that Christians don't go around killing people with religious motivations much

Um, the Holocaust...

by Anonymousreply 55April 19, 2022 7:36 PM

[quote] I didn't say anything about Muslims, just that Christians don't go around killing people with religious motivations much

Every gay bashing by a Christian is religiously motivated whether express it consciously or not. Homophobia is all based in religion

by Anonymousreply 56April 19, 2022 7:37 PM

[quote] It’s amazing that the Pulse shooting is still talked about as a gay hate crime when the shooter didn’t even know it was a gay club. He just wanted a crowded place. Our media is so broken.

Oh, please. He had gone there before. He knew it was a gay club

by Anonymousreply 57April 19, 2022 7:38 PM

^ Iranian Kurd. Initial reporting was Turkish, maybe because they assumed that he was from Turkish Kurdistan.

by Anonymousreply 59April 20, 2022 1:31 PM

R7 Matthew Shepard was murdered by his fellow drug dealer and occasional fuck buddy and his pal. There was no homophobia involved despite his family and the media's narrative they cooked up. Just a turf war and dark faggotry.

by Anonymousreply 60April 20, 2022 1:37 PM

Sligo only has 20k people? What the fuck? It's a hamlet.

by Anonymousreply 61April 20, 2022 3:07 PM

Bit of a shit-hole by all accounts.

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by Anonymousreply 62April 22, 2022 2:45 AM

R60 you shouldn't believe everything you read, dear.

by Anonymousreply 63April 22, 2022 2:56 AM

The men who were murdered were very very very ugly. The murderer must have been extremely disgusted by these men. So sad

by Anonymousreply 64April 22, 2022 3:24 AM

UPDATE

A 23-year-old man has been given two life sentences for murdering two men in Sligo last year.

The court heard that Gardaí (police) believed Yousef Palani's motivation "was to carry out murder due to prejudice against homosexuality.”

He further admitted intentionally causing serious harm to Anthony Burke on 9 April. Mr Burke was stabbed in the eye. Mr Palani denied being in Anthony Burke’s house despite his semen from a previous consensual sexual encounter being found on a blanket there as well as evidence from seized phones that linked him to the victims.

The court heard that one murder victim was decapitated with 43 stab wounds. The second man was stabbed 25 times mainly to his head, neck and chest.

He told arresting officers: “I can get angry very quick” and denied he was gay, claiming homosexuality was “a sin, you wont find many Muslims gay and religious”.

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by Anonymousreply 65October 24, 2023 9:33 AM

[quote]Um, did you see the story today of a good Christian family kidnapping and torturing a gay man

It is silly when people forcefully try to find exceptions to dismiss the rule. Particularly people who want to be politically correct against the reality of facts.

You could also, though men probably commit more than 95% of sex crime, find some twisted woman that was molesting a child and shout: I told you, women are rapist just like men

by Anonymousreply 66October 24, 2023 1:23 PM

R42 I wanted to argue too, but when I read the comment at R35 about Italians not being Christians, I saw that it was just some poor doofus.

by Anonymousreply 67October 24, 2023 1:39 PM

[quote]Maybe we should ask why 90% of gaybashers and 90% of murderers in general, are men.

Maybe we should also ask why we are pretending they are all gay when they are all confused straight guys or just plain straight male sociopaths.

by Anonymousreply 68October 24, 2023 4:25 PM

Last week there were journalists OUTRAGED that people were suggesting Hamas had beheaded babies in Israel. Less outraged at the actual act, more outraged at the suggestion that Muslims WOULD behead someone (baby or otherwise) because it plays into the trope of a feral, medieval animalistic brown person behaviour.

And now this story.

by Anonymousreply 69October 24, 2023 4:43 PM

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