Summer 1967. Fifth Dimension "Up Up & Away". Do you remember, Eldergays?

This song embodies Happiness and Fun and being a child.

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by Anonymousreply 123August 6, 2021 8:12 PM

Yes, I remember! Also, "The Age of Aquarius/Let the Sunshine In"... Beyond groovy.

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by Anonymousreply 1February 1, 2021 7:26 PM

Today a group like The Fifth Dimension would be accused of not being black enough. Because you know, blacks must be a certain way.

Anyway, melodic pop tunes were killed years ago. Melody is just so passé.

by Anonymousreply 2February 1, 2021 7:37 PM

I LOVED them as a baby gay.

by Anonymousreply 3February 1, 2021 7:44 PM

Time Magazine called them the white Mamas and Papas.

by Anonymousreply 4February 1, 2021 7:45 PM

My dad loved the Fifth Dimension, I grew up listening to them. They were great, wonderful voices and harmonies. Last Night I Didn't Get To Sleep At All and One Less Bell To Answer are my favorites. Like the above posters said, melodic pop isn't fashionable anymore and it's a real shame.

by Anonymousreply 5February 1, 2021 7:50 PM

They are one of my all -time favorite groups!

by Anonymousreply 6February 1, 2021 8:03 PM

"Up. Up & Away" was a huge GIFT to the Lawrence Welk Show. It seemed like they performed it in every episode (I had to watch it with my parents). It allowed them to claim to use contemporary music even though it was wholly innocuous in every possible way.

by Anonymousreply 7February 1, 2021 8:16 PM

I'm not shamed to have their greatest hits. McCoo had the best voice.

by Anonymousreply 8February 1, 2021 8:41 PM

^^^ Agree. The spinoff duo of "Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis Jr." made some good music of their own.

by Anonymousreply 9February 1, 2021 8:47 PM

Marilyn McCoo had a beautiful voice. If she were a young singer today, she'd be criticized for "sounding white."

Music has really regressed so much, artists all have to be put in narrow little boxes. Back then there was so much diversity in voices and styles of music.

by Anonymousreply 10February 1, 2021 8:52 PM

[quote]What happened to the no carb diet?

My grandmother had the British version (see link). She'd put it on and I'd run around her dining room table to it...I was four, that's what I did in those days, run around in circles when I liked a record.

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by Anonymousreply 11February 1, 2021 8:54 PM

Marilyn McCoo was gorgeous.

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by Anonymousreply 12February 1, 2021 9:00 PM

Every time I hear them I'm immediately a happy 70s kid again - my sister and I used to sing "Marry Me Bill" on long road trips. Her voice is incredibly beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 13February 1, 2021 9:17 PM

The Fifth Dimension was OFFENSIVELY- inoffensive.

by Anonymousreply 14February 1, 2021 9:22 PM

Such a great song, OP! I agree, it’s takes me back to when I was very young. R1, I had the song you mention on a 45 I enjoyed it so much (plus I’m an Aquarius.).

This song, for me, reminds me of my childhood. Such a simpler time.

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by Anonymousreply 15February 1, 2021 9:25 PM

I always liked this version. Benefit of being an eldergay is to have experienced air travel before it sucked.

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by Anonymousreply 16February 1, 2021 9:37 PM

I saw the Fifth Demension at a live concert in the Hollywood Bowl back in 1969. They were fabulous. I already loved them, and they didn’t disappoint.

by Anonymousreply 17February 1, 2021 11:02 PM

[quote]Anyway, melodic pop tunes were killed years ago. Melody is just so passé.

Said every grandmother since there was a newer generation.

"That new ragtime is so vulgar. No lovely melodies."

by Anonymousreply 18February 1, 2021 11:06 PM

Why did the OP's version cut these two lines from the bridge:

"Suspended under a twilight canopy

We'll search the clouds for a star to guide us"

The bridge is my favorite part of the song.

by Anonymousreply 19February 1, 2021 11:21 PM

[quote]Time Magazine called them the white Mamas and Papas.

?? That's bizarre.

by Anonymousreply 20February 1, 2021 11:25 PM

R18 List some great melodies written over the last 10 years.

Thanks in Advance.

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by Anonymousreply 21February 1, 2021 11:35 PM

[quote]The Fifth Dimension was OFFENSIVELY- inoffensive.

Explain further.

by Anonymousreply 22February 1, 2021 11:38 PM

Even black-owned Ebony magazine referred to them as "a white sound in a black group." Nevertheless, they were very popular and my black family enjoyed their music.

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by Anonymousreply 23February 1, 2021 11:40 PM

Marilyn McCoo was one of the all-time beauties of pop music. Just stunning.

by Anonymousreply 24February 1, 2021 11:43 PM

[quote] "a white sound in a black group."

How pathetic and ignorant.

by Anonymousreply 25February 1, 2021 11:44 PM

I wasn't born until thirteen years later, but Ths Fifth Dimension is an absolute favorite of mine.

by Anonymousreply 26February 1, 2021 11:53 PM

Up, Up and Away must have been in a commercial or something in the late 80s when I was a gayling, because I was obsessed with it. Such a great song. Such a great group.

by Anonymousreply 27February 2, 2021 1:03 AM

Someone here at he good old DL described McCoo's voice as the one you hear out of the the ex-beauty pageant runner-up, now ocean cruise liner lounge vocalist.

True, but as those go, McCoo is the best, nobody else comes close.

McCoo is just shy of the talent of say, Vanessa Williams, who I deeply admire, but McCoo has something Williams lacks: instant identifiability. You hear McCoo once and you know from then on who that sound unmistakably is coming from in all the songs she sings.

She owns "One Less Bell to Answer". Not even Streisand brings the sorrow that McCoo brings to it.

I too love every 5th Dimension hit.

by Anonymousreply 28February 2, 2021 1:06 AM

Yes, McCoo had a melancholy in her voice when she was singing the sad songs and it was very effective. Great singer.

by Anonymousreply 29February 2, 2021 1:15 AM

[quote]I saw the Fifth Demension at a live concert

Did they keep forgetting the lyrics?

by Anonymousreply 30February 2, 2021 1:16 AM

"Up Up & Away"'s high water mark on the charts was the first week of July 1967. A good week.

1 1 WINDY –•– The Association (Warner Brothers)-7 (2 weeks at #1) (1)

2 3 LITTLE BIT O’ SOUL –•– The Music Explosion (Laurie)-9 (2)

3 7 CAN’T TAKE MY EYES OFF YOU –•– Frankie Valli (Philips)-8 (3)

4 4 SAN FRANCISCO (Be Sure To Wear Flowers In Your Hair) –•– Scott McKenzie (Ode)-7 (4)

5 10 DON’T SLEEP IN THE SUBWAY –•– Petula Clark (Warner Brothers)-6 (5)

6 9 COME ON DOWN TO MY BOAT –•– Every Mothers’ Son (MGM)-10 (6)

7 12 UP-UP AND AWAY –•– The 5th Dimension (Soul City)-6 (7)

8 8 LET’S LIVE FOR TODAY –•– The Grass Roots (Dunhill)-9 (8)

9 2 GROOVIN’ –•– The Young Rascals (Atlantic)-12 (1)

10 13 THE TRACKS OF MY TEARS –•– Johnny Rivers (Imperial)-6 (10)

by Anonymousreply 31February 2, 2021 1:21 AM

Wow those are some great songs.

by Anonymousreply 32February 2, 2021 1:22 AM

This is a favorite of mine. Marilyn sings it so passionately.

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by Anonymousreply 33February 2, 2021 1:22 AM

It was about drugs, it all was.

by Anonymousreply 34February 2, 2021 1:22 AM

The Up-Up and Away album was in my house; I don't know how it got there, but I listened to it over and over when I was eight years old. I didn't necessarily get the words to the songs, I just enjoyed the music.

by Anonymousreply 35February 2, 2021 1:35 AM

Elder Gay here. I was 5 years old in 1967, and I remember watching them sing this on television and LOVING it! It was on one of those variety shows and their race never occurred to me. In fact, up until I opened this thread I would have said the singers were all White - don’t ask me why, I just did. I must have been focused on the music and their costumes.

by Anonymousreply 36February 2, 2021 1:38 AM

Loved them as a gayling. Paper Cup is super weird but I love it. And Flashback is one their last hits and has such great energy. Billy’s costume in this performance is something else. And Florence has a banging body. Those abs!

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by Anonymousreply 37February 2, 2021 1:51 AM

I had their greatest hits album on 8 track...I’d blare it in my car on my way to school.

by Anonymousreply 38February 2, 2021 2:10 AM

R20, it would certainly be a more profound comment than any I ever read in Time!

by Anonymousreply 39February 2, 2021 2:12 AM

We sang Up Up and Away in elementary school music class.

Jimmy Webb was on fire around that time.

by Anonymousreply 40February 2, 2021 2:15 AM

In 1978 Marilyn McCoo did the original version of Saving All My Love For You, which of course was a monster hit for Whitney Houston years later.

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by Anonymousreply 41February 2, 2021 2:28 AM

interesting , not as good as Diana 's version although

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by Anonymousreply 42February 2, 2021 2:33 AM

Pity the sound quality of this recording is so poor. Marilyn outdoes Sheena

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by Anonymousreply 43February 2, 2021 2:45 AM

R31 all melodies.

Try humming the top 10 songs of January 2021.

(who even knows what the hell they are)

by Anonymousreply 44February 2, 2021 3:31 AM

They were so inoffensive, they were hired to do Jello commercials. While singing on top of a giant Jello box.

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by Anonymousreply 45February 2, 2021 3:37 AM

I was twelve in 1967 and thought the Fifth Dimension were just soooo cheesy. Now I think they were cute.

Saw Marilyn McCoo play Julie is a superb version of Show Boat in the mid-1990s*, she was GREAT!

* McCoo had replaced original cast member Lonette McKee

by Anonymousreply 46February 2, 2021 3:46 AM

They're more or less forgotten now but in the late 60's they were on the radio ALL THE TIME.

by Anonymousreply 47February 2, 2021 3:53 AM

They weren't very hip, yet they had huge hits (Stone Cold Picnic, Wedding Bell Blues, Sweet Blindness) written by Laura Nyro, who was really hip.

by Anonymousreply 48February 2, 2021 3:56 AM

I was in my mid teens in 1967 and let me tell your that there were a hell of

a lot better songs going around that year, the this one. I had to click the

YouTube link to be reminded of exactly which song this was. It really sucks.

by Anonymousreply 49February 2, 2021 4:07 AM

R45 They also did a radio ad for Coca-Cola. They seemed to be everywhere.

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by Anonymousreply 50February 2, 2021 4:12 AM

R49 It was fun sunshine pop Jimmy Webb tune.

[quote]They were so inoffensive

Who were the offensive singing groups of 1967?

by Anonymousreply 51February 2, 2021 4:15 AM

I feel so fortunate to have grown up in the 60s. Terrific pop music. And not just from The Beatles. The 5th Dimension is a great example of a hit machine of the era. I was also a fan of Herb Alpert and Sergio Mendes, founders of A&M Records. And I wish they'd bring back bell-bottoms.

by Anonymousreply 52February 2, 2021 4:18 AM

I love fun, breezy music with catchy melodies. I wish this style of music were still around.

by Anonymousreply 53February 2, 2021 4:33 AM

Spring 1967 was this song, if you'd ask me. Baroque Pop meets Bubblegum meets The Mamas and Papas. It reminds me of driving through Humboldt Park on a sunny, late April day.

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by Anonymousreply 54February 2, 2021 4:37 AM

I was super young, too young to pay attention to pop music, but even I was aware of this song at the time.

It was one of a very few handful of songs of the era that my mom, who really didn't care about music that much at all, seemed to enjoy.

It seemed almost like a kid's song to me, because they were singing about balloons.

Later on I discovered "Age of Aquarius" and became fairly obsessed with it.

R42 I remember seeing them sing "Love Hangover" on either Mike Douglas or Merv Griffin. It was after Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis had left the group. Their version was going head-to-head with the Diana Ross version on the charts, and they were losing the battle by that point. They alluded to "another version that was out", and seemed upset about it, because they thought their version was so much better.

They've got a good half-dozen or so bonafide classics in their catalog. I've settled on this one as my favorite:

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by Anonymousreply 55February 2, 2021 4:42 AM

[quote]They weren't very hip, yet they had huge hits (Stone Cold Picnic

I think Stoned Soul Picnic was an even bigger hit.

by Anonymousreply 56February 2, 2021 4:42 AM

Age of Aquarius/Let the Sunshine in is still such a classic. Now THAT"S a pop song.

by Anonymousreply 57February 2, 2021 4:44 AM

[quote] I was also a fan of Herb Alpert and Sergio Mendes, founders of A&M Records.

Sergio Mendes was not a founder of A&M. The 'M' is for Jerry Moss.

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by Anonymousreply 58February 2, 2021 5:05 AM

[quote] Age of Aquarius/Let the Sunshine in is still such a classic. Now THAT"S a pop song

Until the celebrities ruined it

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by Anonymousreply 59February 2, 2021 5:24 AM

R59, it's like a horror movie of bad harmonies. Make it stop!

by Anonymousreply 60February 2, 2021 5:26 AM

Whoever owned the rights to these songs must have given them away.

Every school choir in the MidWest tortured the fuck out of “Aquarius” and “Come Fly Away” in the early 70s. I was dragged to older brothers’ performances and that fucking tambourine was always after the beat.

Plus, the high school choir always reminded me of the bald choir in “Planet of the Apes”. I thought director beat them and perhaps they all wore wigs.

by Anonymousreply 61February 2, 2021 5:44 AM

Jimmy Webb wrote some amazing songs, but of course, the songs had to be matched to excellent singers and musicians to make them hits.

The Fifth Dimension were loved by almost everyone who was into good pop music.

I remember when Marilyn was co-hosting Solid Gold. I forgot who the male co-host was. They did a duet, performing The Police's Every Breath You Take, the problem about that song, so many think it's a love song, it isn't. The way they were looking into each others eyes to convey what they assumed the song was about, romantic love, was quite funny.

The lyrics are clearly about a man stalking a woman. It's always hilarious when couples pick that song for their weddings.

by Anonymousreply 62February 2, 2021 6:02 AM

Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis, Jr. still tour. Not at the moment, of course, but they are still a touring act. They have been married to each other since 1969.

by Anonymousreply 63February 2, 2021 6:31 AM

Speaking of Sergio Mendes...

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by Anonymousreply 64February 2, 2021 6:34 AM

R62 that cohost was DL fave Andy gibb!

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by Anonymousreply 65February 2, 2021 7:04 AM

I read somewhere that Dionne did not like Marilyn when they did Solid Gold.

by Anonymousreply 66February 2, 2021 7:21 AM

Dare I say Marylin McCoo could rival Whitney? They both had so much range and melisma. Whitney belted it out while Marylin was more nuanced. I think I like both styles.

by Anonymousreply 67February 2, 2021 7:41 AM

Their Coca Cola commercial:

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by Anonymousreply 68February 2, 2021 8:03 AM

[quote]Dare I say Marylin McCoo could rival Whitney? They both had so much range and melisma. Whitney belted it out while Marylin was more nuanced. I think I like both styles.

There is no comparison.

McCoo did not need to resort to melisma. That was not her singing style. She was true to the melody and lyric, had no need to show off.

by Anonymousreply 69February 2, 2021 3:43 PM

[quote]Age of Aquarius/Let the Sunshine in is still such a classic. Now THAT"S a pop song.

From the B'way musical "Hair". No musical since has ever generated so many hits.

I was just watching MSNBC and a commercial came on for One-A-Day vitamins. They're using "I Got Life" from "Hair" as an accompaniment.

James Rado is still alive. Imagine the fortune he's earned from writing those songs.

by Anonymousreply 70February 2, 2021 3:57 PM

For all of you youngsters who've been fed the lie that the late 1960s was all acid and protest rock, pay attention to realty - The Fifth Dimension, Tom Jones, The Monkees, Gary Puckett and the Union Gap, The Turtles, Neil Diamond, Herb Alpert, The Cowsils, Bobby Sherman, and get this - "The Archies," which was a cartoon show that had a hit record. I'm not saying all this music was bad, I'm saying that most of the music then was easy going and blander than most people think.

A Fifth Dimension-like group I liked better was Friends of Distinction. Most people only know the hit Grazing In The Grass, but they were really excellent.

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by Anonymousreply 71February 2, 2021 4:22 PM

"realty" should be reality

by Anonymousreply 72February 2, 2021 4:23 PM

R71 Not only that, but top 10 radio was still playing Andy Williams, Sinatra, Peggy Lee. You'd hear The Doors and then Vikki Carr. It was wonderful.

by Anonymousreply 73February 2, 2021 4:32 PM

[quote]The Fifth Dimension, Tom Jones, The Monkees, Gary Puckett and the Union Gap, The Turtles, Neil Diamond, Herb Alpert, The Cowsils, Bobby Sherman,

And let's not forget The Association.

by Anonymousreply 74February 2, 2021 4:35 PM

I remember this following "Up, Up, and Away" on the radio.

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by Anonymousreply 75February 2, 2021 5:34 PM

I don't think Marilyn McCoo "sounded white" at all. Her voice has a rich timbre that I can't find a comparison for among white female singers.

by Anonymousreply 76February 2, 2021 5:59 PM

"And let's not forget The Association."

Aside from Along Comes Mary, I try to forget them.

Vikki Carr! I love it! Also Herman's Hermits and Petula Clark. Paul McCartney discovery Mary Hopkin (Those Were the Days), you could have.

by Anonymousreply 77February 2, 2021 6:00 PM

This is very much in the same genre:

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by Anonymousreply 78February 2, 2021 6:07 PM

At the time of their popularity my second grade teacher looked a lot like Marilyn McCoo. I used to come home from school, put on my dad's Fifth Dimention and Carpenters records and pretend she was singing to me. I remember liking a song called "Working on a Groovy Thing" and "The Girl's Song" off the album we had.

by Anonymousreply 79February 2, 2021 6:08 PM

Another great hit from the time was "Kites Are Fun" by the Free Design

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by Anonymousreply 80February 2, 2021 6:10 PM

I don't remember The Sugar Shack (with DL fave Victor Garber), but I remember- and LOVED - those Laura Nyro songs!

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by Anonymousreply 81February 2, 2021 6:13 PM

Does anyone remember Mrs Abrams and her 4th grade class from Starwberry Point?

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by Anonymousreply 82February 2, 2021 6:15 PM

Yes, OP. Very well. Was looking forward to getting out of my house and small town for a major university.

The songs of 1967 were some of the best ever in Popular Music.

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by Anonymousreply 83February 2, 2021 6:24 PM

R80 I love their work but they never had a hit record. At least not on the pop chart.

by Anonymousreply 84February 2, 2021 6:30 PM

Also love them and listen to their best of collection. I was born in 1966, but my mother loved them and played them throughout my childhood.

by Anonymousreply 85February 2, 2021 6:43 PM

Spanky & Our Gang’s “Like To Get To Know You” was another gorgeous song of that particular genre. It was released in the midst of the 1968 turmoil. It sadly seems to have been completely forgotten though, as I’ve never heard come by in movies of series.

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by Anonymousreply 86February 2, 2021 6:44 PM

AHEM. I also performed Up, Up and Away, and did so magnificently.

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by Anonymousreply 87February 2, 2021 6:52 PM

Is it too early to mention G’s Up With People retrospective?

by Anonymousreply 88February 2, 2021 8:16 PM

r80, I think Free Design was rediscovered about 15 years ago. Never heard one of their songs in the Top 40 at the time.

by Anonymousreply 89February 3, 2021 12:46 AM

Other bright cheery songs from 1967: "Penny Lane", "Daydream Believer" and the Turtle's "Happy Together".

I love the sunshine pop/baroque pop era.

by Anonymousreply 90February 3, 2021 12:55 AM

r90, I'm with you there. Gorgeous, beautifully produced pop music that gives the listener a euphoric lift without any chemicals.

by Anonymousreply 91February 3, 2021 1:03 AM

R82 they should have a sing-off with the Kids of Widney High

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by Anonymousreply 92February 3, 2021 1:39 AM

Did someone mention the Friends of Distinction? Listen and learn about great music...thank you.

Just listen to that long, gorgeous fade away!

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by Anonymousreply 93February 3, 2021 3:29 AM

5th Dimension covering Aretha Franklin's Rock Steady. Alas, only Florence can dance and I feel bad for the big guy in the back for being forced to do this choreography.

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by Anonymousreply 94February 3, 2021 1:11 PM

Light Sings is my favorite 5th D song

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by Anonymousreply 95February 3, 2021 1:15 PM

When talent was still a necessity to be a recording star. Those days are long gone.

by Anonymousreply 96February 3, 2021 2:42 PM

You needed talent and you had to be able to sing live.

by Anonymousreply 97February 3, 2021 3:51 PM

They were fabulous. Marilyn McCoo is such an underrated singer.

by Anonymousreply 98February 3, 2021 4:31 PM

R86 I’ve always adored that song, it’s so dreamy, trippy and atmospheric

by Anonymousreply 99February 3, 2021 4:33 PM

I could not switch to another station fast enough every time this song came on.

by Anonymousreply 101February 3, 2021 5:47 PM

Friends of Distinction were great but some of their stuff sounds like such a rip off of the 5th Dimension.

The first time I heard this, I just assumed it was the Fifth. I mean, C'mon.

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by Anonymousreply 102February 4, 2021 11:16 PM

[quote]I feel bad for the big guy in the back for being forced to do this choreography.

Yeah, but he was a trained opera singer, so he could certainly handle the singing part.

by Anonymousreply 105February 4, 2021 11:28 PM

You forgot to mention the legendary Bones Howe whose production work on this piece was so brilliant.

by Anonymousreply 106February 4, 2021 11:59 PM

🎵“The sleeping pill I took was just a waste of time…“

by Anonymousreply 107February 7, 2021 3:58 PM

[quote]🎵“The sleeping pill I took was just a waste of time…“

Just like my birth control pills.

by Anonymousreply 108February 7, 2021 6:21 PM

I have the clearest memory of this being the first song on the car radio I recognized and became excited about as a child at about the age of four.

by Anonymousreply 110August 6, 2021 10:06 AM

Loved them…a happy time for me.

by Anonymousreply 111August 6, 2021 10:12 AM

Yes, I remember being a 10-year-old gayling and paying particular attention to big black bear Ron Townson. Why was I interested whenever he was on screen? Oh, youth.

by Anonymousreply 112August 6, 2021 10:12 AM

Was surprised when I found out they weren't white. I never had their albums, never saw them on TV.

by Anonymousreply 113August 6, 2021 10:19 AM

I loved their Save the Country better than that bombastic version with Spy Daddy.

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by Anonymousreply 114August 6, 2021 12:47 PM

the harmonies and chord progressions in the song are very strange and intense

by Anonymousreply 115August 6, 2021 1:46 PM

I loved them. There wasn't a song they did, that I didn't like. Uplifting and fun music. Great memories!

by Anonymousreply 116August 6, 2021 2:10 PM

Speaking of the Mamas and the Papas, FD outdid them on their own song.

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by Anonymousreply 117August 6, 2021 2:40 PM

“It’s a Great Life” from 1968.

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by Anonymousreply 118August 6, 2021 3:27 PM

Loved them, their music is timeless to me. My favorite of their hits is Laura Nyro’s “Stoned Soul Picnic”, and I also love Neil Sedaka’s “Workin’ on a Groovy Thing”.

I’m also old enough to remember their appearance on “It Takes a Thief”, where the song “One Less Bell to Answer” was actually a plot point!

by Anonymousreply 119August 6, 2021 3:35 PM

Billy Davis Jr. & Marilyn McCoo are featured in the recent "Summer of Soul" documentary. They do talk about how they were perceived as a white group based on their sound. They said they wanted to do the Harlem Cultural Festival because they wanted to make that cultural connection to black people.

Favorite part is when they're talking about the first album finally coming out, with the iconic cover. Billy Davis Jr. said: "people finally saw who we were! And people said 'They're....black. 😮 And they're in a balloon?!' ." 🤣

by Anonymousreply 120August 6, 2021 5:58 PM

Yeah... and what about:

Rolling Stones, 'Ruby Tuesday'

Jimi Hendrix, 'Purple Haze'

The Doors, 'Light My Fire'

Jefferson Airplane, 'Somebody To Love'

Procol Harum, 'Whiter Shade of Pale'

Pink Floyd, 'See Emily Play'

Jefferson Airplane, 'White Rabbit'

Beatles, 'All You Need Is Love'

Rolling Stones, 'Dandelion'

.... to name a few.

by Anonymousreply 121August 6, 2021 6:41 PM

R121

Yes all of those songs too.

Wonderful childhood memories.

by Anonymousreply 122August 6, 2021 7:57 PM

Possibly my favorite 5th Dimension song. I know...tragic.

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by Anonymousreply 123August 6, 2021 8:12 PM

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