[quote]R261: I have not read about that concern here yet. It sounds like you read one thing and understand something else.
No, babe. Hate-fest attacks on the female characters of various films and series always come from the same misogynistic place. It's coming from right-wing incels; no matter how they choose to frame the pointless criticism, the underlying motivation is the same.
[quote]We don't have a problem with Ortegas being independent and having her own opinion. We just feel it is out of place at the helm.
There goes that sock troll "we" shit. :D
Look, unless you 𝑎𝑟𝑒 running socks, you cannot honestly speak to the reasoning of anyone here except your own.
[quote]Critiquing (good or bad) the captain's decisions at every corner is just nothing you would expect or condone in a military(-like) organization.
And yet it has taken place at various points in 'Trek.' Chekov and Sulu were always full of clown piss and pepper; Lt Stiles was brazenly offensive to the point of insubordination. And you're claiming stuff that Erica Ortegas hasn't even done. You just don't like her. To your bigoted perception, she's stepping out of her place. You just need to own up to it. '𝑌𝑜𝑢,' not the royal plural '𝑤𝑒.'
[quote]The gender has nothing to do with it.
Sure, Jan.
[quote]If Wesley Crusher had voiced his opinion like this he would have had his last day on the bridge. And rightfully so.
Wesley Crusher expressed opinions all the time. It's one of the reasons he was so hated by fans, who always make the mistake of second-guessing what characters like Picard and Riker were themselves depicted as willing to put up with.
If Pike and Number One don't see the need to slap Ortegas down, then neither should you. Sit the fuck down.
Personally, Pavel Chekov always annoyed the fuck out of me. I hated his hair in 'Catspaw,' where he was first introduced. I didn't like the character, and after fifty-five years, I've still never warmed up to him. But I have never called into question the need for the character to be there, or the way he serves the narratives. People who bitch about various characters, series, or films, wanting rid of them, are typically not capable of writing better themselves.
