I have no more thoughts and prayers to give.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 287 | May 14, 2023 5:37 AM |
But, it's Texas. The state that's full of "good guys with guns"! What happened, y'all?
| by Anonymous | reply 1 | May 7, 2023 12:55 AM |
gross. USA is quite gross at this moment.
| by Anonymous | reply 2 | May 7, 2023 1:04 AM |
Thanks for loosening gun laws, Greg Abbott!
| by Anonymous | reply 3 | May 7, 2023 1:05 AM |
Texas is more like Florida with fatter people with a smattering of law abiding good guy heroes. This was in DFW.
Just saying it's not like Walker Texas Ranger is on every street corner ready to round house kick the badguys.
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | May 7, 2023 1:07 AM |
Per NBC, multiple deaths confirmed and at least 9 people taken to the hospital.
Oh, and Gov. Abbott and Lt. Gov. Patrick have offered their thoughts and prayers.
| by Anonymous | reply 5 | May 7, 2023 1:16 AM |
No death count yet? I read somewhere that in wartime, deaths just stop mattering.
I hate to confess it, but I just don't care much any more. Yes, there will be death every day, in schools, stores, restaurants, parks, medical clinics, churches, walking down the street. It's a war zone.
But we have the Internet - why does anybody go out to these public places anyway? At least if we just ordered in, we'd pay those goddamned Republican gun nuts back by making them go out of business (every businessman I've ever known is a heartless Republican), so there's the silver lining.
| by Anonymous | reply 6 | May 7, 2023 1:18 AM |
Dying with you cold dead fingers clutching shoddy discount merchandise.
| by Anonymous | reply 7 | May 7, 2023 1:22 AM |
We're never going to see anything done about the gun insanity in this country. Our government obviously doesn't give a shit.
| by Anonymous | reply 8 | May 7, 2023 1:23 AM |
What number of deaths will be intolerable? I say infinity.
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | May 7, 2023 1:24 AM |
People who vote Republican enable this.
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | May 7, 2023 1:28 AM |
There’s a really graphic up-close video of the killer laying on the ground after he was shot in the head, taken with someone’s phone through the window of a restaurant. Go to Twitter if you want to see it. There’s blood all over him but he has what looks like an AK weapon next to him, belts and pouched filled with other weapons, all black, it’s like SWAT team gear.
| by Anonymous | reply 12 | May 7, 2023 1:48 AM |
This man showed up to kill as many people as possible. There’s also footage from people’s dash cams, farther away, of him stopping his car right in front of the mall, getting out, leaving the door open and he just stars taking aim and shooting at people. Also on Twitter.
| by Anonymous | reply 13 | May 7, 2023 1:50 AM |
Who shot him? The police?
| by Anonymous | reply 14 | May 7, 2023 1:51 AM |
This will never change.
This is our way of life, and death, now.
| by Anonymous | reply 15 | May 7, 2023 1:54 AM |
This is why the so-called "Left"'s likewise obsession with getting all "kumbaya" and bringing in the social workers/defunding the police schtick is only going to backfire eventually and push our society to endorse giving all the "good guys" guns to defend themselves with in the event of such continuing mass shootings, a.k.a. including in religious institutions, public school settings, etc.
I totally get it that there are many unhelped, untreated mentally ill people in our society who need funding and assistance to get better. But that will likely take longer than the lifetimes of many more victims who will be shot, because if someone wants to get a gun, be they either mentally or criminally enough disposed to, they will find a way to get their guns -- and then shoot the victims that their mental problems or hate fuel.
So I didn't think I'd ever say it, but I'm beginning to think that general society should be armed proactively and offensively, too, yes. And that does frighten me, because there could be the "Barney Fife" syndrome thing where someone well-intentioned, or unchecked-proned to fly off the handle, could become overzealous or overwhelmed and start shooting the very people they're supposed to be protecting. But it seems lately, unfortunately, that's a chance to take that's being seriously overwhelmed by a greater number of these types of attacks now becoming endemic. And the killers tracking themselves being spotlighted and discussed on media while they're doing it, doesn't do anything to deter them, but rather just encourages their naricissistic and copy-cat tendencies, IMO.
I'm buying a titanium pantsuit collection to wear 24 hours around-the-clock.
| by Anonymous | reply 16 | May 7, 2023 2:00 AM |
Was it a TJ Automaxxit weapon?
| by Anonymous | reply 17 | May 7, 2023 2:04 AM |
Shorter R16: somebody forgot to take their meds this morning...
| by Anonymous | reply 18 | May 7, 2023 2:07 AM |
Maybe there was a fight over merchandise at the Nautica store, but keep in mind that bastards cutting in front of you during a flash sale at an outlet mall meets “stand your ground” criteria in Texas.
| by Anonymous | reply 19 | May 7, 2023 2:07 AM |
[quote]There’s a really graphic up-close video of the killer laying on the ground after he was shot in the head, taken with someone’s phone through the window of a restaurant. Go to Twitter if you want to see it.
I have sufficient, r12.
| by Anonymous | reply 20 | May 7, 2023 2:10 AM |
Also deeply disappointed that R16 wasn't able to blame mass shootings on cancel culture or the woke mind virus.
| by Anonymous | reply 21 | May 7, 2023 2:10 AM |
How is it that with all the people who conceal carry now (with the explicitly stated purpose of protecting themselves and others from bad actors with guns), not one member of this valorous militia has managed to take out an active shooter? They only seem to be successful at shooting unarmed and unaware innocents.
| by Anonymous | reply 22 | May 7, 2023 2:12 AM |
R16 is a troll. Bloated police budgets don't solve crime. Cops solve fewer than 50% of murders. Letting criminals have easy access to guns sure as fuck doesn't solve crimes either
| by Anonymous | reply 24 | May 7, 2023 2:15 AM |
Before you know it, mass shootings are going to be a regular segment on the news, like the weather report, complete with a map showing the frequency and locations of the incidents.
| by Anonymous | reply 25 | May 7, 2023 2:27 AM |
No we're going to have Big Brother security and surveillance everywhere.
| by Anonymous | reply 26 | May 7, 2023 2:27 AM |
Reading R19’s post. Assuming it’s meant to be sarcastic. But on second thought, it’s likely to be legitimate. Stand Your Ground seems more and more to equate to Me First Consequences Be Damned.
I can’t be the only one here who feels like the almost constant reports of shootings puts one into something like a state of high alert with no relief. No, I’m not really fearful when I go out. Not at all. Well, except when I am.
A few years ago we had to take Active Shooter training at work. What did we learn? How to barricade a door with furniture. The importance of staying out of the sight line created by the door’s window.
I recall asking the trainer, “What if the shooter is in my room?”
Her reply? “Pray.”
Useless.
I know I’m just rambling. But seriously, how does a sane person process the constant violence when there’s no sign of hope for change?
I was actually naive enough to think legislators would take serious action after the Newtown CT shootings. Obama’s speech in the aftermath of the attack drove me to tears.
Now I have no expectations that we’ll find the will to fight this epidemic of violence. None at all. But I feel bad about myself for being unable to summon any optimism at this point. This is not how I want to live.
| by Anonymous | reply 27 | May 7, 2023 2:32 AM |
I don’t remember his name but look up Texas Democrats on Instagram. They shared a video earlier today of a black Texas state legislator ripping into his colleagues. Powerful.
| by Anonymous | reply 28 | May 7, 2023 2:52 AM |
I will probably be kicked off Twitter, as if that matters, because I told him ' Fuck your prayers'.
| by Anonymous | reply 30 | May 7, 2023 2:58 AM |
I looked at some of the video. I usually don’t but I did this time. This needs to be shown to everyone. People need to see what their inaction has done. There were little kids in the pile of bodies.
| by Anonymous | reply 31 | May 7, 2023 3:00 AM |
Can we not get a think tank of security experts, mental health experts, lawyers, constitution experts, epidemiologists, gun manufacturers, insurance adjusters to get together and figure out a solution to prevent this?
It doesn't take all those people? We're going to leave it to venting frustration on social media and letting politicians decide and debate and at the end of the day doing nothing because they know that they're well insulated from this, and the chance of it happening to them is very low.
There was a public forum after Parkland but what did that amount to? Moving the needle?
Let's get some brains on this like it's a NASA project for God's sakes. Where are the brilliant minds of America? Do we not have any anymore?
| by Anonymous | reply 32 | May 7, 2023 3:16 AM |
We put a men on the moon but cannot grapple the mass shooter problem. Why?
| by Anonymous | reply 33 | May 7, 2023 3:19 AM |
R31, I agree. After every shooting, show the remains of every victim.
| by Anonymous | reply 34 | May 7, 2023 3:19 AM |
R32, we can! Who do you think is preventing us from doing that? I don’t mean to be sarcastic sounding, because your solution is the best solution.
| by Anonymous | reply 35 | May 7, 2023 3:20 AM |
R34 idk about that. Mexico and other countries near there. Don't censor anything and show bloody victims of the cartel all the time in publications. Not sure if it's desensitizing or makes violence seem more like an acceptable fact of life.
| by Anonymous | reply 38 | May 7, 2023 3:23 AM |
Nine people dead, three in critical condition, despite an incredibly swift response by an officer already at the mall on an unrelated call. Imagine if he wasn’t there to neutralize the shooter. It’s scary how 9 dead, multiple hispitalized is the best-case scenario when a “good guy with a gun” is nearby.
| by Anonymous | reply 39 | May 7, 2023 3:25 AM |
^^…. “hospitalized.”
| by Anonymous | reply 40 | May 7, 2023 3:26 AM |
Saturday Saturday Saturday Saturday, Saturday night’s alright…. 🔫🔫🔫🔫
| by Anonymous | reply 41 | May 7, 2023 3:26 AM |
"Kalio Paliako, 36, was shopping with his parents for an upcoming vacation at the Tory Burch store."
MARY!!!!!!!!
| by Anonymous | reply 42 | May 7, 2023 3:27 AM |
Yeah, I don't care at all about Red States or the the people who choose to live there. Vote for Republican leadership, reap the consequences.
| by Anonymous | reply 43 | May 7, 2023 3:30 AM |
It’s what republiqans vote for. Remember, they didn’t care if their own kids died of COVID as long as they could own the libs by not getting them vaccinated. Same with guns. They’re owning the libs by refusing even the weakest form of gun control and they’re more than willing to sacrifice their own kids to do it.
This is what do many don’t seem to get about republiqans and it’s why Democrats are so helpless in dealing with them, because normal people simply have no way of dealing with such depravity.
| by Anonymous | reply 45 | May 7, 2023 3:50 AM |
I'll send a check for thoughts and prayers to Governor Abbott on Monday.
| by Anonymous | reply 46 | May 7, 2023 3:51 AM |
Come Monday morning, it'll be forgotten.
| by Anonymous | reply 47 | May 7, 2023 3:56 AM |
[quote]"Kalio Paliako, 36, was shopping with his parents for an upcoming vacation at the Tory Burch store."
Seems an odd place to vacation, but who am I to judge?
| by Anonymous | reply 48 | May 7, 2023 3:57 AM |
[quote]Representative Keith Self, who represents Allen, Texas, said on CNN that critics who are calling for more than “thoughts and prayers” after Saturday’s shooting “don’t believe in almighty God, who is absolutely in control of our lives” and instead said the country’s lack of “mental health institutions” is to blame.
Fucking psycho.
They really are a death cult.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 49 | May 7, 2023 3:57 AM |
Only way anything changes is if someone shoots up the Capitol building or something along those lines. Otherwise, they don't give a single shit
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 50 | May 7, 2023 4:02 AM |
[quote] Only way anything changes is if someone shoots up the Capitol building or something along those lines.
Well, that's pretty much what the Jan. 6 insurrectionists were hoping to do. And that didn't seem to change anything.
| by Anonymous | reply 51 | May 7, 2023 4:06 AM |
There’s a photo floating around of the shooter’s body but his face is obscured. The feature that stands out (literally) is his fat gut. Local man?
| by Anonymous | reply 52 | May 7, 2023 4:08 AM |
Shopping malls are the new killing fields.
| by Anonymous | reply 53 | May 7, 2023 4:09 AM |
[quote]Only way anything changes is if someone shoots up the Capitol building or something along those lines. Otherwise, they don't give a single shit
They could shoot every single Republican Congress member's children and they'd still vote with the NRA.
| by Anonymous | reply 54 | May 7, 2023 4:16 AM |
Agree r54. I have no earthly clue what could change their minds. Not a clue.
| by Anonymous | reply 55 | May 7, 2023 4:18 AM |
A good tweet from Gavin Newsom.
[quote]We have become a nation that is more focused on the right to kill than the right to live.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 56 | May 7, 2023 4:25 AM |
I just watched cell phone footage of the bodies of the shooter himself, and separately a group of victims, including a child. Absolutely horrific. This footage should be shoved in the faces of Republican politicians at every opportunity.
| by Anonymous | reply 57 | May 7, 2023 4:25 AM |
I have wondered if a Republican politician's mind would change if one of their loved ones was left severely disabled due to a gunshot wound. Then again, I don't think they would care. I watched that Gabby Giffords documentary on CNN. a few months back. There was a part where they showed her struggling to speak at a Senate hearing and Ted Cruz was shown and he seemed annoyed as fuck about having to hear her speak.
| by Anonymous | reply 58 | May 7, 2023 4:31 AM |
Two words, r58...Steve Scalise.
| by Anonymous | reply 59 | May 7, 2023 4:32 AM |
If Biden wins a 2nd term, it’s time for him to do the right thing and ban these assault rifles.
| by Anonymous | reply 61 | May 7, 2023 4:46 AM |
r61 You don't seem to understand how the government works.
| by Anonymous | reply 63 | May 7, 2023 4:48 AM |
It's so sickening that nothing has been done about the gun problem.. There is no earthly reason why military-grade firearms should be in the hands of the general public. Complete insanity.
| by Anonymous | reply 64 | May 7, 2023 4:59 AM |
[quote]There is no earthly reason why military-grade firearms should be in the hands of the general public. Complete insanity.
Amen.
The only intended function of AR-15s is to kill as many people as possible, in as short a time as possible. They are not for hunting animals, they are not for target practice. If the founding fathers could make do with single-shot muskets for their "well-regulated militia" concerns, Republicans can do without these killing machines.
They should have been banned yesterday.
| by Anonymous | reply 65 | May 7, 2023 5:05 AM |
Absolutely r65. It's beyond nuts that these weapons are available to the public. Unfortunately, we have so many people in this country who are obsessed with them. I've never understood our gun culture. I've never had any interest in firearms and just cannot understand why so many people are so into them.
| by Anonymous | reply 66 | May 7, 2023 5:25 AM |
Well if the minimum wage employees were armed with guns this would of turned out better
| by Anonymous | reply 67 | May 7, 2023 5:29 AM |
Cruz and Abbott are both loathsome pieces of shit who never should've been in public office.
| by Anonymous | reply 68 | May 7, 2023 5:32 AM |
Mexies. Nine less Trump voters.
| by Anonymous | reply 69 | May 7, 2023 5:33 AM |
There's video of a lot of it from a dashcam. Chilling.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 70 | May 7, 2023 5:43 AM |
This is America. This is who we are.
| by Anonymous | reply 71 | May 7, 2023 5:58 AM |
Hispanic shooter with a gang tattoo
| by Anonymous | reply 72 | May 7, 2023 5:58 AM |
Deep discounts on blood soaked merchandise?
| by Anonymous | reply 73 | May 7, 2023 6:00 AM |
I still don’t understand why the gun lobby is so powerful. Most Americans want stricter gun laws for assault weapons. And why can’t someone target Marjorie Taylor Greene instead of innocent people?
| by Anonymous | reply 74 | May 7, 2023 6:04 AM |
I meant to F&F R74. You can’t say things like that.
| by Anonymous | reply 75 | May 7, 2023 6:10 AM |
Eight hours since the perp was killed and still he remains unidentified. Not so much as a description anywhere I can find.
| by Anonymous | reply 76 | May 7, 2023 6:14 AM |
Why not? She is a violent animal with rabies.
| by Anonymous | reply 77 | May 7, 2023 6:16 AM |
The perp hasn't been identified by name, but CBS11 reports he was born in 1989 and lived in Dallas.
The death photo shows he had a tattoo in the shape of Texas on his hand that, according to Reddit posters, a number of thugs there have.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 78 | May 7, 2023 6:21 AM |
That’s what they should do. Go after the Republicans. Get enough of them and the laws change. Either by attrition, or action by the party of “it doesn’t affect me”.
| by Anonymous | reply 79 | May 7, 2023 6:49 AM |
Per the death photo circulating on Twitter, he seems to be Hispanic or Native American.
Not Black, not white.
But any combo is TBD.
| by Anonymous | reply 80 | May 7, 2023 7:54 AM |
There are contradictions in accounts of the shooting; some witnesses say it looked like he randomly targeted people, but others say he cornered a family of four and shot them all execution-style. The others may have been caught in the crossfire.
Could it be the family was his main target, while the others were caught in the crossfire? Especially if he’s a gang member (as theorized by Redditors) because they usually kill for gang reasons. He may have been planning to flee after finishing off the family, but was not aware of the cop on site who thankfully got to him before he had any chance to escape.
| by Anonymous | reply 81 | May 7, 2023 7:55 AM |
A targeted hit seems plausible, R81. The main carnage was in that small area outside H&M—five bodies.
You'd think the typical mass shooter would want to make a statement and go for a more populated area.
But if it was a hit, why did he get out of the car? He was taken out on the sidewalk some distance from where he originally pulled up and fired. Why not just drive away after the hit? If he wanted to take out just one family, why not do it when they were driving home/all at their house?
| by Anonymous | reply 82 | May 7, 2023 8:04 AM |
Jesus. This is a completely normalized part of our culture now. It has been for a while. Just this week I had forgotten about the Tennessee shooting that happened not that long ago until I was heard a radio story about state legislatures, and they mentioned that Tennessee tried to ban the two congressman for protesting gun violence. I'd say the situation is "insane" but clearly it's not
| by Anonymous | reply 83 | May 7, 2023 8:21 AM |
We really are doomed. A nation awash with guns, no amount of “sensible” gun laws will make any appreciable difference.
| by Anonymous | reply 84 | May 7, 2023 8:36 AM |
The US has decided this is just an acceptable social cost the equivalent to something like a deadly car pileup. It gets cleaned up, someone plants a cross, and life moves on. It’s so bizarre when compared to overreactions to potential consumer product risks like lawn darts, Kinder Eggs or IKEA dressers.
| by Anonymous | reply 85 | May 7, 2023 8:37 AM |
I long ago stopped going to malls for fear of mass shootings.
| by Anonymous | reply 86 | May 7, 2023 8:39 AM |
I long ago stopped going to malls for fear of Macys.
| by Anonymous | reply 87 | May 7, 2023 8:49 AM |
Newsome lands a body blow again.
Rep. Keith Self blamed a "lack of mental health facilities" instead of guns, right after the shooting. Well, Greg Abbott's the reason, bub.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 88 | May 7, 2023 9:19 AM |
[quote] Newsome lands a body blow again.
Of course Newsom doesn't know any more about the shooter than we do. The police and media still aren't sharing this information.
If it turns out to be the targeted killing as was suggested as a possibility, will it be Abbots fault for not having executed more criminals ?
| by Anonymous | reply 90 | May 7, 2023 9:35 AM |
[quote]I meant to F&F [R74]. You can’t say things like that.
I'm not R74 - but why the fuck can't R74 say "things like that" R75?
| by Anonymous | reply 91 | May 7, 2023 10:23 AM |
8 more dead, including a 5 year old child and nobody cares. How many dead tomorrow? The day after? The day after that? And nobody cares or does anything about it. This gun violence is becoming incrementally worse and very quickly. Things weren't this bad 2 years ago.
One of the worst things about it all is watching all the authorities pretending to care in press conferences. Absolutely bizarre. Nobody cares.
On any given day you could send your kids to school and have them mowed down by a machine gun or go to the supermarket to get some bread and milk and never come back. Those are the facts now.
How can this be any way to live?
| by Anonymous | reply 92 | May 7, 2023 10:38 AM |
Charles Whitman, the Texas tower shooter, didn't seem to have any motive. Just hated his dad and was a psychopath.
Australia got rid of their guns after the Tasmania massacre. America just refuses to budge as if the victims are insignificant collateral damage.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 93 | May 7, 2023 11:06 AM |
Absolutely zero sympathy for anything that happens in Texas. They continue to vote in Abbott and Cruz and other evil politicians. This is the bed they made.
| by Anonymous | reply 94 | May 7, 2023 11:17 AM |
[quote] Texas tower shooter, didn't seem to have any motive.
What he had was a pecan sized brain tumor pressed against his amygdala, a part of the brain related to anxiety and fight-or-flight responses.
| by Anonymous | reply 95 | May 7, 2023 11:18 AM |
He was also at Camp Lejeune. I don't think that excuses his bad behavior. He couldn't have simply shot himself if it was so bad?
| by Anonymous | reply 96 | May 7, 2023 11:20 AM |
It's not just happening in Texas R94. It's happening all across the United States regardless of political colors. No-one is immune and it's getting worse.
| by Anonymous | reply 97 | May 7, 2023 11:22 AM |
R95, there's no consensus that the tumor influenced his actions. Some experts think it did, some don't.
It's true that he had no discernable motive.
| by Anonymous | reply 98 | May 7, 2023 11:26 AM |
Stop talking about tumors in an attempt to distract and deflect from the very serious issue.
The issue is guns and out of control gun violence in America. And guns. And more guns.
| by Anonymous | reply 99 | May 7, 2023 11:40 AM |
[quote] Absolutely zero sympathy for anything that happens in Texas. They continue to vote in Abbott and Cruz and other evil politicians. This is the bed they made.
There are a lot of Dems in Texas who are NOT voting for Abbott & Cruz.
| by Anonymous | reply 100 | May 7, 2023 12:30 PM |
Keith Self is one ugly ghoulish-looking motherfucker. In Rick Scott territory.
| by Anonymous | reply 102 | May 7, 2023 1:04 PM |
Democrats need to make the 2024 election all about - guns and abortion.
| by Anonymous | reply 103 | May 7, 2023 1:21 PM |
I think the shooters will grow tired of this before the GOP will.
| by Anonymous | reply 104 | May 7, 2023 1:33 PM |
In response to R16's lunacy, there used to be public health services and a safety net in place until the mid-'80s when Ronald Reagan and the conservative congress gutted all federal funding for these services and replaced it with "care in the community," i.e., nothing.
Conservatives are responsible for this all the way around no matter how you look at it.
| by Anonymous | reply 105 | May 7, 2023 1:34 PM |
For most civilised nations, the Columbine shootings would've been enough to change the laws and restrict, if not outright ban, gun ownership.
In the U.S., not so much.
| by Anonymous | reply 106 | May 7, 2023 1:53 PM |
Part of the problem is that the NRA was so successful in convincing people that the 2nd Amendment allows gun ownership by the citizenry specifically as a check on government so they can use their guns to overthrow a sitting government. Funny how the Founding Fathers neglected to lay out a protocol for how to form a true "people'" government in that event.
Of course, it's a total nonsense. But the idea has been embedded very deeply in the otherwise vapid minds of gun owners.
| by Anonymous | reply 107 | May 7, 2023 1:56 PM |
You beat me to it, r107 and I'm glad you did. You wrote better than I could what I was thinking.
I'm so sick of the veneration of the "drafters" of the US Constitution and amendments.
Isn't it time to say it? They were wrong to include, and enact, the 2nd Amendment.
| by Anonymous | reply 108 | May 7, 2023 2:00 PM |
Here's something I'm curious about. In several of these mass shootings, and especially this one at a mall, the shooter was all dressed up in combat gear, carrying an assault rifle. He didn't just pop up out of nowhere. He had to park his car and walk into the mall. People had to see him.
| by Anonymous | reply 109 | May 7, 2023 2:20 PM |
Brought to you by the GOP. Voting Republican is voting for this to keep happening again and again and again. While they call the rest of us names and claim we are ruining America:
"Man who helped victims at Texas mall shooting: "The first girl I walked up to was crouched down covering her head in the bushes, so I felt for a pulse, pulled her head to the side and she had no face."
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 110 | May 7, 2023 2:45 PM |
[quote]I will probably be kicked off Twitter, as if that matters, because I told him ' Fuck your prayers'.
To be honest I think Ted gets off on verbal abuse.
| by Anonymous | reply 111 | May 7, 2023 2:47 PM |
Oh well. Keep voting Republican.
| by Anonymous | reply 112 | May 7, 2023 2:47 PM |
Shooter was another loser, living at home with his mommy. No money to live on his own but money for expensive firearms, ammo, and body armor.
"WFAA: FBI went to home of suspected Allen, Texas mall shooter after shooting today. Home is in Dallas, where suspect lived with his parents. Neighbors described suspect as quiet, kept to himself, sometimes exhibited unusual behavior."
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 113 | May 7, 2023 2:48 PM |
"Who was the Allen outlet mall shooter? Here's what we know so far"
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 114 | May 7, 2023 2:53 PM |
Texas is an open carry state and there no way to tell an upstanding citizen from a guy carrying a AR-15 gun into a public place intent on murdering people. It’s a conundrum. Should I exit the store or find a place to hide, or should I thank a good guy with a gun keeping everyone safe in the event of a would-be massacre? I think out of abundance of caution I would do the first.
| by Anonymous | reply 115 | May 7, 2023 2:56 PM |
Let's not forget that the leading cause of death in American children is death by gunshot.
How can that be? How can it be allowed?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 116 | May 7, 2023 3:05 PM |
If I lived in an open carry state I’d do the same, R115, if I didn’t move first (get the hell out of Dodge, so to speak.)
What a country. We’re held hostage by greedy, amoral, low-IQ Christofascists beholden to the gun lobby, all truly terrible people. We can’t ask citizens to give up their guns (that ship has sailed), but we can try for common sense gun laws. States who allows open carry of assault rifles by children, without required background checks, do not want common sense gun laws. They will have many mass shootings. Many.
| by Anonymous | reply 117 | May 7, 2023 3:06 PM |
Blaming closed mental institutions is just another deflection like unlocked doors, single mothers, violent movies/video games etc....
It's the fucking unfettered access to guns.
JFC - every other country on the planet deals with social issues - homelessness, access to mental health services etc...., but no other country has the daily fucking mass shootings.
Until people get that, the daily slaughter will continue.
| by Anonymous | reply 118 | May 7, 2023 3:08 PM |
[quote]It's the fucking unfettered access to guns.
[bold]This.[/bold]
| by Anonymous | reply 119 | May 7, 2023 3:10 PM |
Even this Texan cop gets it.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 120 | May 7, 2023 3:23 PM |
Republicans are terrorists.
| by Anonymous | reply 121 | May 7, 2023 3:26 PM |
[quote]I long ago stopped going to malls for fear of mass shootings.
I stopped going because of the zombies, r86.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 122 | May 7, 2023 3:37 PM |
When every other non-shithole country looks on at you in utter horror, when the statistics clearly show gun violence and gun-related deaths sharply increased after the assault weapon ban was not renewed, when the leading cause of death for your children is gun violence, when it happens NO WHERE ELSE with such frequency or intensity, when the majority of Americans want change, when you are effectively traumatizing a generation of kids while calling them "too sensitive"...to double-down with MORE GUNS and MORE IGNORANCE is both suicidal and homicidal.
The way of the GOP/NRA does not work.
Only morons think all of the other countries, all of the statistics, all of the data, and the piling up of bodies every fucking day in America doesn't clearly say: You are wrong. It's the easy access to guns. It's YOU and YOUR policies. YOU are the problem.
| by Anonymous | reply 123 | May 7, 2023 3:43 PM |
We have open carry in my state and one of my customers dressed in head to toe tacticool clothing, NRA buttons that I assume are membership gifts and of course his guns. He did it after every major mass shooting. One day a delivery driver was in with a full handtruck and one of its tires exploded. Like a gunshot. We both flinched and laughed and my next thought was thank god my biggest ammosexual customer wasn't in because he would've opened up a crossfire. I talk about NRA in the past tense because the last time I saw him he was clearly on chemo and could barely walk. Hope he went to the big gunsafe in the sky
| by Anonymous | reply 124 | May 7, 2023 3:52 PM |
I have never been a one issue voter, but after Uvalde I decided I will not vote for anyone who has not taken a position against the NRA. In addition to the obvious need to do something, if a candidate refuses to stand up to the NRA I know everything I need to know about that candidate.
| by Anonymous | reply 125 | May 7, 2023 4:02 PM |
The Conservatives are preparing for a civil war - this sounds outrageous but it’s true. They’ll get everyone armed, laws changed and start shooting. It’s inevitable.
| by Anonymous | reply 126 | May 7, 2023 4:10 PM |
It would be a shame for those who would stoke or participate in the destruction of our nation and our democracy via civil war, to meet the angry end of a military drone, R126.
A real shame.
| by Anonymous | reply 127 | May 7, 2023 4:49 PM |
I can’t imagine another outcome coming from the Republicans than, if not exactly a civil war, then mass incarceration of minorities and “libruls” on false pretenses, women who have miscarriages they deem suspicious, and any number of other reasons to lock up those they don’t like. The recent ratcheting up of extreme legislation in the red states will not stop as long as they wield power. There’s no bottom to their depravity. Shooting people Kyle Rittenhouse style they’ve already shown they’re fine with and encourage.
| by Anonymous | reply 128 | May 7, 2023 5:04 PM |
People really think the 2nd Amendment is what keeps America from becoming like Nazi Germany.
Even if that's true, surely we could do something more. It's like living with random rogue Nazis capable of shooting you to death in your face as you go out into public minding your own business.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 129 | May 7, 2023 5:16 PM |
quite honestly I think our diversity helps keep us from going to white people wars like the Troubles or the Ukrainians vs. the Russians. Because we live around so many diverse types of people it's quite clear to us to see that Russians and Ukrainians are very, very similar and it's absurd to see them fight.
So no I don't think we'll have the mass extermination of The Other, because we have so many others and we're a melting pot taught to embrace them. It's what we pride ourselves on.
I wish common sense would prevail on these guns violence matters
| by Anonymous | reply 130 | May 7, 2023 5:21 PM |
[quote]Australia got rid of their guns after the Tasmania massacre.
The entire country was shaken and horrified by that, and they took immediate action. Of course there were gun nuts who protested and threatened civil war, etc. But you know what the Australian government did? They basically said "shut the fuck up, we don't care. We're going to do something about the gun problem in our country." And they did. It was the right thing to do.
Unfortunately, in the US our government puts these psycho gun nuts above everyone else. It's disgraceful.
| by Anonymous | reply 131 | May 7, 2023 5:28 PM |
Why ARE the gun nuts so powerful!?
Because they have the guns! Nobody wants to fuck with them!
| by Anonymous | reply 132 | May 7, 2023 5:32 PM |
While mental health is important, the main problem is easy access to assault weapons. Often by people that would never seek mental health treatment which is voluntary. Until Americans get rid of assault guns, the number of mass killings will steadily increase.
| by Anonymous | reply 133 | May 7, 2023 5:45 PM |
Clarification of why they suppressed information on the killer.
ALLEN, Texas — Following the shooting at Allen Premium Outlets on Saturday that left at least nine dead and injured several others, there are multiple FBI agents inside a home in the Northeast patrol division of Dallas, and there are Dallas Police outside.
Multiple sources say this is the home where the suspected shooter lived along with his parents.
The agents have been inside talking to his family. 𝑻𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒂𝒍𝒔𝒐 𝒂𝒔𝒌𝒆𝒅 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒂 𝒕𝒓𝒂𝒏𝒔𝒍𝒂𝒕𝒐𝒓.
Dallas Police Department computers are still down after the city’s system was attacked by ransomware on Wednesday, so it’s hard for them get information on prior calls to the home, they say.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 134 | May 7, 2023 6:20 PM |
Even with the second amendment, do we really need machine guns? or "semi" machine guns? Where does it stop? why aren't people clamoring for nuclear weapons? or rocket launchers? (honestly I don't know a lot about warfare equipment) but it seems a ridiculous argument that people are entitles to these things.
| by Anonymous | reply 135 | May 7, 2023 6:57 PM |
[quote] Unfortunately, in the US our government puts these psycho gun nuts above everyone else. It's disgraceful.
Actually, they put votes and profits on behalf of their campaign contributors above everything else. "they" includes some Dems and Bernie Sanders.
Fear and ignorance are great tools to make money. Many on the Board of the NRA are connected to guns manufacturers and sellers.
And their propaganda is even better than Trump at tapping into fear and ignorance to line their wallets.
It's tragically funny. Whenever I see guys like the kind that stormed the US Capitol on January 6th pose for phots armed to the hilt, seriously, I see the opposite of toughness. I see pitiful fear in them.
Here's what really frightens me. The image of the unarmed guys in suits ties, or hoodies in whatever meeting they're having to strategize on keeping the propaganda and profits rolling.
The film "Hoffa" has a variation on what I'm talking about. The camera pulls back from a violent rumble happening between union workers v. corporate goons to take in a penthouse office where the rich guys in suits and ties are observing the violence from there cushy perch.
| by Anonymous | reply 136 | May 7, 2023 7:20 PM |
The only thing I carry, r135, is my muff pistol.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 138 | May 7, 2023 7:21 PM |
oops again- their cushy perch.
| by Anonymous | reply 139 | May 7, 2023 7:21 PM |
Higher body count.
SUV driver 'intentionally plows into crowd outside a Texas migrant and homeless shelter - killing at least seven and injuring six others
Police have arrested the driver following the horrific crash on Saturday morning
The Range Rover SUV is believed to have 'intentionally' plowed into pedestrians outside the Ozanam Center in Texas at 8.20am on Saturday
Perp seen in Daily Mail looks LatinX.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 140 | May 7, 2023 7:25 PM |
This is a border state, R134.
Lots of people here are born to parents for whom English isn’t their first language. Most of them are lovely people, this one was not.
Even in Dallas the local news, which is right of center, wasn’t identifying the guy. The authorities didn’t release very much information for several hours. If you look at the post-shooting footage of people staggering around, dazed, interviewed by reporters you’ll see immigrants of all stripes— Africans, Indians, East Asians, Hispanics, along with the garden variety Texans. Crying. In shock. Second-gen kids are a dime a dozen here, most don’t mow people down with semiautomatic weapons.
This is an American problem, period.
| by Anonymous | reply 141 | May 7, 2023 7:35 PM |
Texas is a hot fucking mess.
| by Anonymous | reply 142 | May 7, 2023 7:43 PM |
At least Texas has beautiful scenery, mild weather, and a flourishing arts community! It must, right?
| by Anonymous | reply 143 | May 7, 2023 7:47 PM |
The last time assault weapons were banned was in 1994 by President Clinton. When it came up to vote for it again in 2004 when W was president the GOP didn't go for it.
| by Anonymous | reply 144 | May 7, 2023 8:00 PM |
Allen outlet shooting suspect identified as 33-year-old 𝑴𝒂𝒖𝒓𝒊𝒄𝒊𝒐 𝑮𝒂𝒓𝒄𝒊𝒂.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 145 | May 7, 2023 8:03 PM |
So it’s all about money for gun manufacturers and manipulating people into thinking they need them for protection. It’s embarrassing and frightening that Republicans support them, even wearing lapels in Congress with an image of an assault weapon.
| by Anonymous | reply 146 | May 7, 2023 8:04 PM |
Americans it's time to get some bulletproof clothing.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 147 | May 7, 2023 8:06 PM |
[quote]a flourishing arts community!
Certain parts, yes. The weather depends on where you're at.
| by Anonymous | reply 148 | May 7, 2023 8:09 PM |
Flourishing arts community = Joe Rogan and Steven Crowder.
| by Anonymous | reply 149 | May 7, 2023 8:14 PM |
Terlingua area, Austin, hill country towns, etc. R149. Art communities are located all over the country.
| by Anonymous | reply 150 | May 7, 2023 8:16 PM |
Not to change the subject but I'd move to marfa/terlingua area if it hadn't gotten so expensive. It's a great area where a lot of people go to live off the grid. Beautiful scenery and lots of interesting people. We used to have a DLer who lived down there.
| by Anonymous | reply 151 | May 7, 2023 8:20 PM |
congratulations, Texas. Seven murdered in Brownsville in early afternoon Sunday. Killer chose his car for a weapon,
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 153 | May 7, 2023 8:30 PM |
[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 154 | May 7, 2023 8:46 PM |
[quote]Not to change the subject but I'd move to marfa/terlingua area if it hadn't gotten so expensive. It's a great area where a lot of people go to live off the grid.
Doesn’t the entire state of Texas live off the grid?
| by Anonymous | reply 155 | May 7, 2023 8:51 PM |
The only thing more astonishing about how MTG is ALWAYS wrong is that she feels compelled to swing at every pitch:
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 156 | May 7, 2023 8:52 PM |
Well, I can say I don't R155.
| by Anonymous | reply 157 | May 7, 2023 8:56 PM |
Sorry R157, I was being snarky about the vulnerable Texas stand-alone power grid, which is in danger of collapsing this summer.
| by Anonymous | reply 158 | May 7, 2023 9:08 PM |
Oh that R158. Yeah, luckily I live close to the main centerpoint facility so I've had no problems.
| by Anonymous | reply 159 | May 7, 2023 9:12 PM |
And here's a segue back to the main topic as it applies to both the grid and the scourge of violence in Texas.
Poor Christian victims...
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 160 | May 7, 2023 9:16 PM |
New Mexico doesn't sound so bad. When's the last time you heard of a mass shooting in New Mexico?
Live and let live
| by Anonymous | reply 161 | May 7, 2023 9:20 PM |
New Mexico has its share of problems. Healthcare and education are quite awful there.
| by Anonymous | reply 162 | May 7, 2023 9:24 PM |
^^^
India?
[quote] The publication has gotten popular criticism for its claims on the validity of its own reader polls[4] and misreporting.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 164 | May 7, 2023 9:47 PM |
[quote]…law enforcement officials said, Garcia had several social media accounts and appeared to be drawn to neo-Nazi and white supremacist content. He was also wearing, when he was killed, a patch on his chest with a right-wing acronym.
Uh oh!
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 165 | May 7, 2023 9:49 PM |
Self loathing Mexican? ☝🏼
| by Anonymous | reply 166 | May 7, 2023 9:51 PM |
Can you all guess what “right wing acronym” patch he was wearing?
| by Anonymous | reply 167 | May 7, 2023 9:51 PM |
Never mind — “the patch read 'RWDS' which is an acronym for 'Right Wing Death Squads.' “ according to a news source we’re discouraged from posting here.
| by Anonymous | reply 168 | May 7, 2023 9:56 PM |
I agree, they are priming themselves for a civil war and they have been since Reagan got elected. It has been building that long. Bill Clinton's very effective assault weapons ban expired and George W. Bush refused to renew the ban. That opened the flood gates. I will also go a step further. I believe that something is going on vis a vis the dark web and all these other conspiracy sites and on social media. I think there is a strategy to put deliberately triggering content on those sites and stoke up the rage and the fear. The people who regularly use those sites are already on the edge, and they become obsessive and unbalanced and go for it. Something is deliberately triggering these shooters.
| by Anonymous | reply 169 | May 7, 2023 9:57 PM |
[quote]I believe that something is going on vis a vis the dark web and all these other conspiracy sites and on social media. I think there is a strategy to put deliberately triggering content on those sites and stoke up the rage and the fear.
Like that Qanon garbage and all the idiots who believe it.
| by Anonymous | reply 171 | May 7, 2023 11:28 PM |
[quote]I agree, they are priming themselves for a civil war and they have been since Reagan got elected.
The South didn't just lose the civil war, it was a devastating loss. These morons need to learn some history.
| by Anonymous | reply 172 | May 7, 2023 11:30 PM |
Learning would involve reading and that's a lot to ask of those who are proponents of another civil war, R172
| by Anonymous | reply 173 | May 7, 2023 11:40 PM |
It seems to be in plain sight. They don’t like losing and they really don’t want a diverse America. They want white control and will be violent to maintain it.
But if you ask what their plan is … crickets
| by Anonymous | reply 174 | May 7, 2023 11:40 PM |
R174 yes in plain sight, and we better get serious about responding. Those websites should be shut down, and if it takes another Patriot Act to deal with domestic terrorism then let's get it done. Hate speech and conspiracies to undermine and overthrow the government should not be taken as idle threats by foolish inept men.
| by Anonymous | reply 175 | May 8, 2023 12:08 AM |
R174, that’s always been the thing with them, hasn’t it? Lots to bitch about but no ideas or plans.
Abbott said “it’s the mental health issue in this country…” OK, and? Even if we pretend that it’s the mental health and not the semiautomatic killing machines, what’s the fucking plan???
| by Anonymous | reply 176 | May 8, 2023 12:12 AM |
The plan is to cut the budget for mental health funding, r176, because we know Abbott thinks less is more. Asshole.
| by Anonymous | reply 177 | May 8, 2023 12:17 AM |
The blaming "mental health" used as a diversionary tactic by people like Abbott is just another red herring to deflect from the guns. It's the guns.
| by Anonymous | reply 179 | May 8, 2023 12:21 AM |
We always hear "it's a mental health issue" and of course it is.
But you know what makes these "mental health issues" a million times worse? FUCKING GUNS!
Without guns, innocent people wouldn't be slaughtered on a weekly basis in this country by these nutcases.
| by Anonymous | reply 180 | May 8, 2023 12:25 AM |
[quote]Abbott said “it’s the mental health issue in this country…”
And that's why there need to be background checks, so that people with mental health issues can't get guns.
| by Anonymous | reply 181 | May 8, 2023 12:27 AM |
[quote] It seems to be in plain sight. They don’t like losing and they really don’t want a diverse America. They want white control and will be violent to maintain it.
And they want to normalize taking weapons of war to Walmart
And they want national "stand your ground" laws
And the death penalty for anyone they chose.
And book bans.
And mandatory religion
And...
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 182 | May 8, 2023 12:28 AM |
Where did all the Klan Grannies go?
| by Anonymous | reply 183 | May 8, 2023 1:40 AM |
Hope Graham Allen understands this concept.
Maybe a Bud Light will help...
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 184 | May 8, 2023 1:42 AM |
Dataounge is on prime time R183.
| by Anonymous | reply 185 | May 8, 2023 2:58 AM |
Switzerland is the only western country that has comparable per capita gun ownership to the US. However, the guns are heavy regulated, they are required to take lessons, get appropriate license, keep their guns properly secured. They respect responsibility that comes with gun ownership. Those with criminal background or mental issues cannot get access to them. The Swiss have a civilized approach to guns. The US has none of that, just shit for brains.
| by Anonymous | reply 186 | May 8, 2023 3:15 AM |
There should be this question on the next presidential ballot - Do you want assault weapons to be banned? I don't know how to make that happen, though.
| by Anonymous | reply 187 | May 8, 2023 3:18 AM |
R187 you do it by petition. IMO check first with other organizations that are promoting assault weapons bans, gun safety reforms, etc. Just Google the issue and you'll see a bunch of advocacy groups pop up. Try to work with them, see if they want to do a ballot initiative. Also find out what the rules are in your state for ballot initiatives in general. But get going.
| by Anonymous | reply 190 | May 8, 2023 3:40 AM |
Have their been any mass shootings in Massachusetts?
Is Serbia a nice place to live?
| by Anonymous | reply 191 | May 8, 2023 3:40 AM |
Or shootings anywhere in New England?
| by Anonymous | reply 192 | May 8, 2023 3:41 AM |
Gee I wonder who would shooing other people in Columbus
| by Anonymous | reply 193 | May 8, 2023 3:43 AM |
R152
I adore Terlingua. I’ve been three times and always get inspired to buy land out there.
| by Anonymous | reply 194 | May 8, 2023 3:54 AM |
"Texas is 48th in mental-health funding. Greg Abbott has been governor for eight years, plenty of time to do something."
If they don't get shot to death, Texans definitely ought to keep voting for this guy. He's doing the most! 🤡
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 195 | May 8, 2023 4:04 AM |
"Republican Members of Congress cannot continue to meet this epidemic with a shrug. Tweeted thoughts and prayers are not enough," Biden says after shooting in Texas. "Once again I ask Congress to send me a bill banning assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Enacting universal background checks. Requiring safe storage. Ending immunity for gun manufacturers."
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 197 | May 8, 2023 4:08 AM |
I wonder if the killer ever hung out with Alex Stein?
[quote] Dallas area conspiracy peddler and Blaze Media contributor Alex Stein has recently been retweeting posts from an account run by a young woman who appears to be his girlfriend. She recently retweeted an extremely anti-Semitic image.
(Alex Stein is Jewish)
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 198 | May 8, 2023 4:10 AM |
[quote] Experts say far-right extremism within the Latino community stems from three sources: Hispanic Americans who identify as white; the spread of online misinformation; and anti-Black, antisemitic views among U.S. Latinos that are rarely openly discussed
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 199 | May 8, 2023 4:24 AM |
Also R186 - no other western country has the deeply entrenched violent cultural aggression and attitude towards gun violence the USA does. The USA does not care about gun violence or mass shootings as the numbers demonstrate.
No other western country would let this happen and not do something about it.
| by Anonymous | reply 200 | May 8, 2023 4:24 AM |
As was discussed in the thread about the subway vigilante, former military sometimes gravitate to authoritarianism because they're too unorganized to manage their own lives
[quote] The Allen, Texas, gunman “served in the U.S. Army in 2008 and was removed due to mental health concerns,” per an FBI bulletin reviewed by Rolling Stone. In addition, the suspect posted hundreds of times about white supremacy on social media.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 201 | May 8, 2023 4:42 AM |
R169 America has already slipped into a sort of stochastic civil war. It's a frog in the pot sort of thing.
| by Anonymous | reply 202 | May 8, 2023 5:41 AM |
Yes the frog has boiled R202. Not sure what's next.
| by Anonymous | reply 203 | May 8, 2023 6:14 AM |
I don’t believe In guns, but if we’re going to have them for safety, the mentally ill would need be able to be armed. They’re one of the communities most vulnerable to violence.
| by Anonymous | reply 204 | May 8, 2023 7:21 AM |
That's obviously working out great, R204.
| by Anonymous | reply 205 | May 8, 2023 12:10 PM |
"3 victims of Texas mall shooting identified as a Korean American couple and their 3-year-old child. Their other child, a 5-year-old, was seriously injured - Yonhap"
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 206 | May 8, 2023 2:32 PM |
"Family members confirm 20-year-old security guard Christian LaCour was also killed in the shooting"
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 207 | May 8, 2023 2:33 PM |
"Aishwarya Thatikonda, an engineer who originally came from India, has been identified as the 5th victim of the Texas mall shooting"
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 208 | May 8, 2023 2:34 PM |
"BREAKING: The Latest Allen Texas mall shooting victim has been identified as 45 year old Nick Stabile. His family tells NBC that "He was a blessing to all those around him in his community."
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 209 | May 8, 2023 2:35 PM |
R198 looks like he’s presenting hole in an alley.
| by Anonymous | reply 210 | May 8, 2023 3:24 PM |
"America has already slipped into a sort of stochastic civil war."
Funny how it coincided with the advent of the internet, da?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 211 | May 8, 2023 4:03 PM |
Amsterdam in da hoooouse!
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 212 | May 8, 2023 4:48 PM |
R202 I agree. The comment I made about something triggering these recent killings (including the guy who ran down and killed immigrants after the Allen, Texas mall shooting) leads me to this. For the past few days and weeks, especially very recently, Immigration and immigrants are in the news. with groups of them coming to our Southern borders. I am certain the dark web, the Extremist groups , the MAGAs, and the Alex Jones types, as well as Fox and others have been raising hell and being hysterical about this online, and will not be surprised to discover that constant agitation about the immigrants has triggered this slaughter.
| by Anonymous | reply 214 | May 8, 2023 6:20 PM |
I guess we'll never know what the shooter's political leanings were.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 215 | May 8, 2023 7:52 PM |
I mean there's just no way to tell, and everybody knows latinos can't be racist.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 216 | May 8, 2023 7:53 PM |
Noel Casler (on Twitter)
[quote] It goes without saying that the cops & GOP pols saw the ‘RWDS’ patch right away in the aftermath of the Texas shooting and that’s why they had that BS non-press conf late Saturday & then went silent. They didn’t mention the AR-15 either, purposely keeping Texans in the dark.
[quote] In normal times ‘local resident, military training and a small arsenal of assault weaponry was part of white supremacist movement in TX’ might be something you share with the general public in the aftermath of a deadly massacre. Not in GOP Texas. Owned by the NRA & Trump.
[quote] I’m sure the 3 large tattoos the shooter had: Swastika, SS symbol & bicep ‘Texas’ were all just a big coinkydink, too.
| by Anonymous | reply 217 | May 8, 2023 8:05 PM |
[quote] "America has already slipped into a sort of stochastic civil war." Funny how it coincided with the advent of the internet, da?
Da
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 218 | May 8, 2023 8:55 PM |
He was Latino and into white power bullshit. WTF was that about?
| by Anonymous | reply 219 | May 8, 2023 8:55 PM |
Thoughts and prayers to the Mexican who failed Drivers Ed.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 220 | May 8, 2023 9:03 PM |
Can we get a posthumous one for Ashli Babbitt?
| by Anonymous | reply 223 | May 8, 2023 9:18 PM |
Ron Filipkowski
[quote] The German Army in WWII had 150,000 soldiers of Jewish descent. Hitler personally approved 77 senior officers who were Jewish, including 25 Generals. Goering said of his Field Marshall Erhard Milch, “I will decide who is Jewish.” Milch was later convicted of war crimes.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 224 | May 8, 2023 9:23 PM |
Nick Fuentes = Latino white supremacist
| by Anonymous | reply 225 | May 8, 2023 9:29 PM |
Jess Piper on Twitter
[quote] This is Missouri Representative Ben Baker all dressed up for cosplay. When they tell you who they are, believe them.
[quote] Ben is not a veteran. He was a Dean at a Bible College.
[quote] The HRT Plate Carrier he's wearing retails for $450 and is described as a "carrier allowing the user to navigate obstacles and pack extra munitions, breaching tools, or other mission essential gear." He also has a silencer and and a drum magazine.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 226 | May 8, 2023 9:29 PM |
[quote] The #AllenTX shooter opens the post below by saying it was inspired by LibsOfTikTok, talks about drag queens and “liberal media,” and closes with “Heil Hitler”:
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 227 | May 8, 2023 9:42 PM |
Someone on Twitter pointed out that this guy was working as a security guard, therefore, he was a "good guy with a gun until he wasn't"
And
There's also this:
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 228 | May 8, 2023 10:53 PM |
AR15's turn human bodies into mush. They MUST be banned nationwide.
| by Anonymous | reply 229 | May 8, 2023 11:40 PM |
Absolutely r229. We (the American public) are not allowed to own rocket launchers or grenades, why should we be allowed to own AR15s? We can't own a tank instead of a car, either. These are all weapons of war. It's insane that the public is allowed semi automatic weapons, they're in the same category as other military grade weaponry.
You want a gun to defend yourself in case someone breaks into your home? A shotgun will do the job just fine.
| by Anonymous | reply 230 | May 8, 2023 11:45 PM |
This demon shooter looked so deranged. He was expelled from the military citing mental illness. How was he able to buy this gun legally? Why was he not flagged
| by Anonymous | reply 231 | May 8, 2023 11:48 PM |
Agreed R229. One of the men who helped on the scene said he went to help a woman, turned her over and her face was gone.
Military grade assault weapons are designed for one thing only - to kill a lot of people fast. No US civilian should be allowed to have one of these guns. They are called military grade for a reason and should only be allowed for the military and security forces. No civilians.
| by Anonymous | reply 232 | May 9, 2023 1:24 AM |
The 2nd Amendment has really fucked this country. The way it's been wildly misinterpreted is obscene. It does NOT mean every private citizen has a right to be armed to the teeth with firearms that can shoot a million rounds a minute.
| by Anonymous | reply 233 | May 9, 2023 1:29 AM |
Why does nothing change? Nothing changes?
Absolutely horrible. No one is going to do anything except hope it doesn't happen.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 235 | May 9, 2023 1:46 AM |
[quote]No one is going to do anything
Vote the Republicans out, r235, than we can do something.
| by Anonymous | reply 236 | May 9, 2023 1:57 AM |
The US is such a barbaric, depressing place. Whenever I’m out of the country, like I was this weekend when this occurred, I wish I didn’t have to return. It just feels utterly hopeless.
| by Anonymous | reply 237 | May 9, 2023 2:00 AM |
[quote] They are called military grade for a reason
Indeed. Focus group tested distortion of language and emotionalism.
| by Anonymous | reply 238 | May 9, 2023 2:10 AM |
I was in Japan for three weeks. Never did I fear getting shot or murdered.
| by Anonymous | reply 239 | May 9, 2023 2:13 AM |
I've been in several foreign countries. The United States is the only one where I've feared gun violence, the only one I've visited where trash tried to overthrow a fairly elected government and attacked their capitol.
| by Anonymous | reply 240 | May 9, 2023 2:49 AM |
What does that even mean R238?
| by Anonymous | reply 241 | May 9, 2023 2:51 AM |
[quote]The 2nd Amendment has really fucked this country. The way it's been wildly misinterpreted is obscene. It does NOT mean every private citizen has a right to be armed to the teeth with firearms that can shoot a million rounds a minute.
They always forget that "well-regulate militia" part. The second amendment is talking about colonial era militias The modern equivalent is each state's National Guard. So, basically, the second amendment allows for the National Guard to have guns. That is all.
| by Anonymous | reply 242 | May 9, 2023 5:22 AM |
I agree, R242. We should go back to the original intent of the Founders on this issue. Also, the framers only anticipated muskets and the like, not assault weapons.
| by Anonymous | reply 243 | May 9, 2023 5:31 AM |
I hope none of the dead were pregnant because that's abortion and that's against God's law.
| by Anonymous | reply 244 | May 9, 2023 5:39 AM |
I wish some media outlet would have the balls to say "Victim 1 was aborted at the age of 35", "Victim 2 was aborted at the age of 65", "And poor little victim 3 was aborted at the youthful age of 5."
Where's your pro-life bullshit now, you fucking hypocritical pieces of Texas shit?
| by Anonymous | reply 245 | May 9, 2023 5:45 AM |
r242 you're correct. The National Guard is our modern day "well regulated militia." The 2nd Amendment really isn't about private ownership of firearms.
| by Anonymous | reply 246 | May 9, 2023 5:51 AM |
Also, the framers only anticipated broadsheets printed manually one at a time for one local publisher. Not, billionaire conglomerates flooding the same script to print and other media across the continent, all with the same corporate spin.
Somebody should do something about the First Amendment, right ?
| by Anonymous | reply 247 | May 9, 2023 6:27 AM |
R247, does the first amendment have a leading clause that says "a well-regulated media"?
| by Anonymous | reply 248 | May 9, 2023 8:08 AM |
In all seriousness: How damaged must your brain be to defend ARs in the hands of civilians or the fact that you listen to the Republican terrorists tell you "mental illness" is the issue knowing full-well that Trump wasn't even in office for five fucking minutes before that death cult passed legislation to make it *easier* for mentally ill people to get weapons and that rolling swine Abbott cut funds to help people with mental illness. He even made it legal to bring weapons into mental hospitals.
You're an even bigger fucking moron if you think the weapon is supposed to protect you from "govt tyranny" when a single 23yo eating lunch in Quantico could turn you and your fucking stockpile of glaring inadequacy into dust with one drone flying over your shit neighborhood.
| by Anonymous | reply 249 | May 9, 2023 8:49 AM |
[quote]Marjorie Taylor Greene nominates Kyle Rittenhouse for Congressional Gold Medal
Jesus fucking Christ, what an absolute garbage individual this troglodyte is. Whoever defrosted this Encino filth, should be shot. Ahe thrives on being imbecilic trash. And we all have to put up with her solely because of 170K trailer park trash cockroaches in GA.
| by Anonymous | reply 250 | May 9, 2023 9:04 AM |
It helps a lot to understand these sorts of things if you consider the entire documents and the separate objective of each.
The 𝑪𝒐𝒏𝒔𝒕𝒊𝒕𝒖𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏 sat down the organization and responsibility of the collective government. In its very preamble "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, 𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑐 𝑇𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑞𝑢𝑖𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑦, 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑣𝑖𝑑𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑚𝑜𝑛 𝑑𝑒𝑓𝑒𝑛𝑠𝑒, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of ... " speaks to the police power and the military.
Inversely the 𝑩𝒊𝒍𝒍 𝒐𝒇 𝑹𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 reserved to the people their rights separate from and limiting to that government. A government militia separate from the war powers in the Constitution does not fit with the checks and balances in each of the other Amendments. However if you consider the "militia" as any combination of citizens permitted to defend their own lives and property in the absence of regular civil authority, then it makes sense.
Illustrating the point might be the Korean merchants totally abandoned in the Rodney King Riots when the LAPD chain of command order the policemen to withdraw and abandon the community to its fate, Regular law enforcement having absconded ad hoc militia formed and held the line as long as was necessary..
A small example is the citizen whose life is in danger who shoots and kills his attacker.
A middle case of a neighborhood cut off from outside law enforcement assistance by storm damage so patrolling their street to discourage looters.
In each example a Militia (unofficial force) of citizens doing the work of unavailable civil authority. And this 𝒃𝒆𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒏𝒆𝒄𝒆𝒔𝒔𝒂𝒓𝒚 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒔𝒆𝒄𝒖𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒚 𝒐𝒇 𝒂 𝒇𝒓𝒆𝒆 𝑺𝒕𝒂𝒕𝒆, 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒑𝒆𝒐𝒑𝒍𝒆 𝒕𝒐 𝒌𝒆𝒆𝒑 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒃𝒆𝒂𝒓 𝑨𝒓𝒎𝒔, 𝒔𝒉𝒂𝒍𝒍 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒃𝒆 𝒊𝒏𝒇𝒓𝒊𝒏𝒈𝒆𝒅.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 252 | May 9, 2023 9:07 AM |
I miss the days in America where the Columbine tragedy captivated the nation for an entire year.
| by Anonymous | reply 254 | May 9, 2023 9:29 AM |
r231, I read it was through personal sales, he did not have to do a federal background check. How about we fix that?
| by Anonymous | reply 255 | May 9, 2023 10:29 AM |
r166, Hispanic is not a race it is an ethnicity. There are plenty of white Hispanics that do not considered themselves POC and are racists.
In so many articles about this shooting, there are a lot of people claiming that he couldn't have been a white supremist because his last name was Garcia. Because you know, he wouldn't be in their white supremist group. Their group of racists they hang out with don't consider him one of them. It is quite unbelievable that anyone would suggest what you just did. He's of course not white enough for you to be white, eh. A little below your own group of racists, right?
| by Anonymous | reply 256 | May 9, 2023 10:37 AM |
[quote] There are plenty of white Hispanics that do not considered themselves POC and are racists.
Racism (and bigotry) are not restricted to one specific race or ethnicity. There are plenty of blacks who are racist/bigots. There are plenty of Hispanics and Asians who are racist/bigots. And of course DL is overflowing with racists/bigots. See this entire thread for myriad shameful examples, including R256.
| by Anonymous | reply 257 | May 9, 2023 10:46 AM |
I can't find uncensored videos of this account. Are there any sites left on the net with the videos above?
| by Anonymous | reply 258 | May 9, 2023 11:20 AM |
Shocking pix of a wedding in full ss regalia the shooter admired on his site . Btw- There are plenty of Latino/Hispanic racists, both U.S. born and those who immigrated here.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 259 | May 9, 2023 11:32 AM |
Where the fuck do some of you 'mos get off acting like you aren't the equivalent of this Hispanic being self-loathing when you're just as deranged as he is in going off about things like "woke" or non-whites when the avg MAGAt/Neo-Nazi (same shitheads at this point) is anti-gay? You think the avg MAGAt wants "sodomites" in their utopia? There's nothing more despicable than rats like Richard Grenell carrying water for a Neo-Nazi ideology that wants him dead, too.
| by Anonymous | reply 260 | May 9, 2023 3:07 PM |
The TX mall shooter would have probably loved the Pink Beret insurrectionist who was recently arrested after an ex-boyfriend turned her into the FBI. The Pink Beret insurrectionist is Hispanic and the ex-boyfriend said she was reading Mein Kampf around the time they were dating.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 261 | May 9, 2023 4:58 PM |
This Tx shooter lived in his Mommy's basement, though. How could he meet his pink bereted, similarly-minded Nazi soulmate when he was living in mommy's basement? Sad. They could have made hateful, pseudo-supremist love together, I'm sure. She might not even have realized he had a puny cocklet.
| by Anonymous | reply 262 | May 9, 2023 5:11 PM |
[quote] Racism (and bigotry) are not restricted to one specific race or ethnicity.
As any rational person realizes, However for years now we have had to deal with woke people instead.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 263 | May 9, 2023 5:14 PM |
We need to treat guns like cars. You have to have a license and get it renewed periodically. YOur gun should be registered with a serial number on a national registry. Even Private sales of guns have to be regulated as private sales of cars are. With some kind of "title transfer." Before you can buy a gun you have to go through training. You have to have continuing education periodically. Say every 3-5 years. And no one under 21 should buy or own a gun. Any modifications to a gun that makes it an automatic should be banned. Large magazines and bumper stocks banned. People with mental health issues should not own a gun. People with a criminal record for violent crimes should not own a gun. There should be a waiting period and background checks. And I would confiscate every single automatic weapon out here. Give people an amnesty period to turn in their automatic weapons. After that they will be heavily fined if they're in possession of one/. And promote snitching. "If you see something say something" for automatic weapons. military gear bullet proof vests and other military grade combat clothing or gear should get your name put on a national database. And finally, if we have to re-activate the Patriots act against domestic terrorists do it, and use it to take down all the websites and conspiracy sites that foment hate speech and conspiracies, including racism, homophobia, anti immigrant, anti women, etc.etc. We need a major crackdown.
| by Anonymous | reply 264 | May 9, 2023 5:56 PM |
R264 None of that will ever happen, get over it, if they do anything it will be very token and inconsequential. You may die at the grocery store, that's how it is.
| by Anonymous | reply 265 | May 9, 2023 7:10 PM |
R263, you're such a fucking idiot. You're witnessing right-wing morons shooting beer cans over a single can having some transman on it and just frothing-at-the-mouth over nonsense, and you're still using "woke" like it's something hiding under your fucking bed?
Don't you get tired of trying to magnify "woke" and pretending it actually affects your life in some negative way? It really shows what a rancid individual you are that a shithole like Oklahoma which is as backwards as they come, has some droplet of liberalism and you're trying to stomp it out. OKLAHOMA. That's the state you're using as a source of wokeism? You must be mentally ill.
| by Anonymous | reply 266 | May 9, 2023 7:48 PM |
BTW,R263, I guess you missed those poor Oklahoman victims of "wokeism" waxing nostalgic over the days when they could lynch black people.
You should be happy, klangran, because the governor is making sure his state is PBS-free so Bert and Ernie don't "groom" the kids.
| by Anonymous | reply 267 | May 9, 2023 7:50 PM |
[quote]You're witnessing right-wing morons shooting beer cans over a single can having some [bold]transman[/bold] on it
Who, Chaz Bono?
| by Anonymous | reply 268 | May 9, 2023 7:53 PM |
R252, you forgot the "well-regulated" part in your entire comment. Who, exactly, is regulating this ragtag militia of citizens that you claim the amendment is referring to if not a government body?
Today's state national guard units, under he command of each state's governor, not the federal government, are the equivalent of the citizen militias of colonial times.
| by Anonymous | reply 269 | May 9, 2023 7:57 PM |
Oops, R268. Obviously meant "transwoman."
| by Anonymous | reply 270 | May 9, 2023 8:01 PM |
Actually R156, “race” is a pile of bullshit. The genome of an Asian is identical to that of a Swede- we don’t have blue eyed and green eyes races. Race is a misnomer applying difference which do not exist. The interesting thing about the human species is that as we homogenize and regional “breeding” does not isolate different phenotypes, we will revert to the same. Blond and ginger are recessive traits and disappearing.
There are seriously fucked up people and just regular dunces showboating their ignorance on this thread. Most of them are Republicans of course because that is what the party has come to be dominated by- historically it was a progressive party of reform and human progress. Now it it populated by the rotten minds on full display on this thread, occupying the gutter of human experience- following the self destructive lead of all fascist movements.
| by Anonymous | reply 271 | May 9, 2023 8:44 PM |
You'll never guess who has connections to this shooter.
No really, guess.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 272 | May 10, 2023 3:34 AM |
Americans are too dumb angry and greedy to have guns they need to be taken away all of them. Anyone with a gun does 10 years in jail period. Call it whatever you want.
| by Anonymous | reply 273 | May 10, 2023 3:38 AM |
How can anyone be surprised R272? That bitch is as hateful as they make them.
| by Anonymous | reply 274 | May 10, 2023 3:39 AM |
Chaya from Libs of TikTok is vile cunt and I hope the media hounds her on this.
| by Anonymous | reply 275 | May 10, 2023 4:25 AM |
R239 Do you mean because they don’t have a problem with a portion of their black population like the U.S. does?
| by Anonymous | reply 276 | May 10, 2023 1:05 PM |
Sure, R276. Just look at all of the black mass shooter responsible for so much death:
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 277 | May 10, 2023 1:10 PM |
BTW, gun deaths per capita. Within the top ten are WY, AK and MT...yeah, tons of black people in those states
| by Anonymous | reply 279 | May 10, 2023 1:13 PM |
"New: Mauricio Garcia's social media trail touched neo-Nazi content and misogynist incel filth.
But he also referenced Tim Pool, VDARE, Libs of Tik Tok and Nick Fuentes. A Trump-era cluster of hate..."
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 280 | May 11, 2023 4:38 PM |
"Looking for a through-line with neo-Nazi Andrew Anglin, Nick Fuentes and Tim Pool? They all flatter angry young men with grievances about women.
Garcia's misogyny can be found in so many of these killers. It's basically universal on the radical right"
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 281 | May 11, 2023 4:39 PM |
It's always laughable when the right-wing tries to deny some of these mass shooters weren't directly influenced by them even when shown evidence of that fact. Then of course, it's a set up. Because anyone who leaned right or was white who kills, was clearly planted by the govt, but every other incident involving minorities, is REAL
Meanwhile, if a killer was like a fifth generation Hispanic, they'd blame illegal immigrants or if he was black, then he was obviously "BLM" or if he had so much as watched Aladdin the night before, they'd blame all Muslims.
| by Anonymous | reply 282 | May 11, 2023 4:46 PM |
One year.
"The story of a mother who sprinted, barefoot, to Robb elementary and begged to sit with her murdered 10-yr old daughter so she wouldn't be alone.
Don't look away from this story...."
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 283 | May 13, 2023 3:50 PM |
On what planet is Tim Pool misogynistic?
| by Anonymous | reply 284 | May 13, 2023 6:55 PM |
[quote]On what planet is Tim Pool misogynistic?
This is how I know DL has gone downhill. Shitheads like this one found us.
Imbecile, the guy said he's single because of "feminism." As if it's a woman's fault he's unattractive both inside and out. Most women aren't looking to fuck a guy who wears a knitcap in July.
| by Anonymous | reply 287 | May 14, 2023 5:37 AM |
