of the forthcoming film "A Very English Scandal".
This is progress. Don't you think? Usually that side of these gay historical stories is all edited out and white washed over.
In fact I think it looks good all round. What do YOU reckon?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 362 | February 19, 2021 7:56 PM |
Given the amount of sexually explicit material people have been exposed to all over Internet for the past decade or more, this film is puritanical, much ado about very little, in the scheme of things.
| by Anonymous | reply 1 | May 7, 2018 6:11 AM |
Yes, but this isn't the internet it's a BBC historical movie, with well known actors. Stupid point you make.
| by Anonymous | reply 2 | May 7, 2018 6:14 AM |
O, yes I'm liking the look of this. Where do we see it?
| by Anonymous | reply 3 | May 7, 2018 6:22 AM |
R2 Perhaps you'll be shocked by Hugh snogging Ben on the Beeb, but I doubt most would be.
| by Anonymous | reply 5 | May 7, 2018 6:28 AM |
I'm not shocked. God, you're stupid.
| by Anonymous | reply 6 | May 7, 2018 6:31 AM |
[quote]Scott recently spoke with the Mail on Sunday (via The Irish News) about how he was not pleased about his portrayal in the movie.
[quote]“Throughout the film I’m portrayed as this poor, mincing, little gay person,” he said. “It’s ridiculous. I also come across as a weakling and I’ve never been a weakling. My friends will be horrified when they see it. Sadly they’ve also turned it into a bit of a comedy. It’s far too light, given what happened. They showed selected critics the first episode and the producers were pleased because they laughed through a lot of it. But my story isn’t a comedy – it’s about the total destruction of a person.”
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 7 | May 7, 2018 6:32 AM |
Is he supposed to look like hell in this movie?
| by Anonymous | reply 8 | May 7, 2018 6:33 AM |
R6 And you continue to make much ado about very little. A bit cramped in that closet, perhaps?
| by Anonymous | reply 11 | May 7, 2018 6:37 AM |
Well, OP there really is no way they could edit out or white wash the gay out of a movie about this scandal, it would be like making a movie about Nixon and acting like the Watergate Hotel didn't exist.
| by Anonymous | reply 12 | May 7, 2018 6:39 AM |
I have a very difficult time watching Hugh Grant in anything. He’s just such a cunt.
| by Anonymous | reply 13 | May 7, 2018 6:48 AM |
Stephen Frears is a great director.
HG always seemed fine to me.
| by Anonymous | reply 14 | May 7, 2018 6:50 AM |
Frears has done some excellent gay-themed films, My Beautiful Laundrette and Prick Up Your Ears.
| by Anonymous | reply 15 | May 7, 2018 6:54 AM |
When is this coming out, so to speak?
| by Anonymous | reply 16 | May 7, 2018 7:21 AM |
Looks great. Historical movies abut living people are always a little awkward though.
| by Anonymous | reply 17 | May 7, 2018 7:59 AM |
Is it me or is Ben Whishaw not aging so well.
| by Anonymous | reply 18 | May 7, 2018 8:14 AM |
seen ben winshaw in LONDON SPY???
amazing film, and actor.
| by Anonymous | reply 20 | May 7, 2018 9:12 AM |
[quote]When is this coming out, so to speak?
No air date has been confirmed by the BBC but there was a screening and Q&A of it and Russell T. Davies said it will be the middle of this month and airing on Sundays . So far no US network has picked it up for re-airing.
| by Anonymous | reply 21 | May 7, 2018 9:19 AM |
Anyone who hasn't seen Maurice should see it immediately.
| by Anonymous | reply 22 | May 7, 2018 12:52 PM |
[quote]Anyone who hasn't seen Maurice should see it immediately.
I wish there were a version with Ben as Scudder. But ten years ago would have been the time for that.
| by Anonymous | reply 23 | May 7, 2018 12:56 PM |
Have we forgotten that Hugh is no stranger to the love that dare not speak its name?
| by Anonymous | reply 24 | May 7, 2018 1:07 PM |
What are you talking about, R24.
| by Anonymous | reply 25 | May 7, 2018 1:13 PM |
25 fucking posts! Where are my trolls? WHERE ARE MY TROLLS?
& who spelled my name wrong?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 26 | May 7, 2018 1:16 PM |
[QUOTE]Ben FUCKING Wishaw
That's "Ben FUCKING Whishaw," DUMBASS.
| by Anonymous | reply 27 | May 7, 2018 1:18 PM |
[quote]Hugh is no stranger to the love that dare not speak its name
Polygamy?
| by Anonymous | reply 29 | May 7, 2018 1:26 PM |
I think r24 is a little confused.
| by Anonymous | reply 30 | May 7, 2018 1:31 PM |
Personally, I find Ben Whishaw ugly. He always looks as if he smells bad, like a mix of smelly feet and dirty butt.
| by Anonymous | reply 31 | May 7, 2018 1:41 PM |
Boy, the cunt meter on this thread seems to be set at 10 out of 10!!!
| by Anonymous | reply 32 | May 7, 2018 2:12 PM |
As R22 suggests, Hugh Grant has done gay before.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 33 | May 7, 2018 2:46 PM |
[quote]As [R22] suggests, Hugh Grant has done gay before.
But no men snogged full face in "gentle" Maurice. Did anyone even kiss in that film?
| by Anonymous | reply 34 | May 7, 2018 2:48 PM |
[quote]Boy, the cunt meter on this thread seems to be set at 10 out of 10!!!
12!!!, r32.
| by Anonymous | reply 35 | May 7, 2018 2:50 PM |
[quote]Boy, the cunt meter on this thread seems to be set at 10 out of 10!!!
My trolls have arrived at last! One at least.
| by Anonymous | reply 36 | May 7, 2018 2:50 PM |
Wasn't there kissing and rolling n the grass in Maurice?
| by Anonymous | reply 37 | May 7, 2018 3:10 PM |
R37's imagination's running wild.
| by Anonymous | reply 39 | May 7, 2018 3:17 PM |
R16 is a reminder of why I still visit this board.
| by Anonymous | reply 40 | May 7, 2018 3:21 PM |
I think this looks great.
| by Anonymous | reply 41 | May 7, 2018 3:25 PM |
[quote]But no men snogged full face in "gentle" Maurice. Did anyone even kiss in that film?
You mean like this . . .
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 42 | May 7, 2018 3:40 PM |
Women in Love, 1969, Oliver Reed and Alan Bates, naked wresting, dicks swinging. And you cunts are getting excited over a snog in 2018.
| by Anonymous | reply 43 | May 7, 2018 3:50 PM |
Wait, what? Wilby and Grant kiss in Maurice. It's in the scene where Clive dumps Maurice and Maurice freaks out and they scuffle a bit and then Maurice kisses Clive on the lips.
In some interview many, many years ago Grant joked that Wilby was the best kisser from all his scene partners he kissed (I believe it was after or around the movie he did with Julia Roberts, Notting Hill).
| by Anonymous | reply 44 | May 7, 2018 4:02 PM |
Does "snogged" mean "kissed" or "fucked"?
| by Anonymous | reply 45 | May 7, 2018 4:02 PM |
Snog means kissing. Shagging means fucking (in the vagina) and buggering means up the ass.
| by Anonymous | reply 47 | May 7, 2018 4:04 PM |
And now, a brief pause in our programme while English is translated into Yank.
| by Anonymous | reply 48 | May 7, 2018 4:07 PM |
Snogging is a sort of making out sort of kissing.
You don't "snog" your grandmother, for instance.
| by Anonymous | reply 49 | May 7, 2018 4:11 PM |
r48 = the (newly crowned) Programme Troll
| by Anonymous | reply 50 | May 7, 2018 4:12 PM |
I thought "gimme a snog!" is more of "hello!" kiss you do give to relatives and friends?
| by Anonymous | reply 52 | May 7, 2018 4:13 PM |
"Snog" sounds like something you should do to the toilet when it backs up.
| by Anonymous | reply 53 | May 7, 2018 4:14 PM |
[quote]I thought "gimme a snog!" is more of "hello!" kiss you do give to relatives and friends?
NO!
| by Anonymous | reply 54 | May 7, 2018 4:15 PM |
& no one actually ever says "gimme a snog"
| by Anonymous | reply 55 | May 7, 2018 4:16 PM |
Oi! Didn't I see ya snoggin' that blond cunt down the pub last night???
(Typical usage)
| by Anonymous | reply 56 | May 7, 2018 4:19 PM |
Just looked it up.
Snog means open mouthed kiss / French kiss.
Even on Datalounge every once in a while you learn something useful.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 57 | May 7, 2018 4:22 PM |
He didn't deserve what happened to him - but Norman Scott was, and probably still is, nuts
| by Anonymous | reply 58 | May 7, 2018 4:22 PM |
Don't forget Hugh's 5 kids by different women he never settles down with and his strange friendship with Liz Hurley
| by Anonymous | reply 59 | May 7, 2018 4:23 PM |
I remember when this happened. I was about 12, at school in London.
Jeremy Thorpe (played by Hugh) was doing doing so well - it looked like we might get a "Liberal" government. Literally. They were called The Liberals. Everyone I knew was going to vote for him - not that that means much -
But the story of the relationship guy, from about 12 years earlier, lurked in his closet.
| by Anonymous | reply 60 | May 7, 2018 4:27 PM |
And he was the one who started the whole mess with Murdoch's newspaper and their illegal phone hacking in the UK.
| by Anonymous | reply 61 | May 7, 2018 4:28 PM |
[quote]But the story of the relationship guy,
But the story of the relationship with this guy**
| by Anonymous | reply 62 | May 7, 2018 4:29 PM |
r61 here, sorry, I didn't want to imply that Grant did a bad thing. It was a great thing that it was him suing (I believe it was The Sun?) because the reporters arrived at some car accident earlier than the repair man he called.
| by Anonymous | reply 63 | May 7, 2018 4:31 PM |
The papers kept calling the guy a "model".
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 64 | May 7, 2018 4:32 PM |
r64, he actually did have a (brief) modeling career. Read the book Jeremy Thorpe by Michael Bloch.
| by Anonymous | reply 65 | May 7, 2018 4:35 PM |
[quote] he actually did have a (brief) modeling career. Read the book Jeremy Thorpe by Michael Bloch.
"brief" being the operative word.
[quote]Read the book Jeremy Thorpe by Michael Bloch.
No, thanks.
| by Anonymous | reply 66 | May 7, 2018 4:39 PM |
r66, the book is actually really juicy. I recommend it.
| by Anonymous | reply 67 | May 7, 2018 4:46 PM |
I couldn't face it.
Maybe, I will.
I've read quite a lot about The Profumo Scandal, though.
| by Anonymous | reply 68 | May 7, 2018 4:48 PM |
Will Dust Springfield be singin the theme toon?
| by Anonymous | reply 69 | May 7, 2018 4:51 PM |
[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 70 | May 7, 2018 4:51 PM |
Peter Cook did a famous skit about the biased judge who presided over the trial
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 71 | May 7, 2018 5:27 PM |
The press in the 70s constantly called Scott a male model because its (brief) accuracy gave them a perfect euphemism for gay gay gay. Plus a thrilling contrast to establishment Parliamentarian Thorpe.
Mention of Peter Cook's brilliant send-up of the judge reminds me of Private Eye magazine's cover after the verdict. Photo of Thorpe emerging beaming and triumphant from the High Court, his speech bubble saying, 'Buggers can't be losers!'
| by Anonymous | reply 72 | May 7, 2018 5:38 PM |
It's unusual to see a serious actor like Ben Whishaw camping it up in this way. Looks like it could be fun ! Let's hope.
If you don't already know that Ben is a great actor then you're an idiot and a philistine. To the haters, bugger off ! The only thing that smells around here is your attitude.
| by Anonymous | reply 73 | May 7, 2018 5:54 PM |
[quote] 25 fucking posts! Where are my trolls? WHERE ARE MY TROLLS? & who spelled my name wrong? —Ben FUCKING Wishaw
Corrected spelling at R18.
And you fucked it up anyway.
| by Anonymous | reply 75 | May 7, 2018 6:42 PM |
You're going all the way back to 18 over some stupid spelling that's already been called out on? God - this place!
| by Anonymous | reply 76 | May 7, 2018 7:10 PM |
Your thread title made me laugh, OP.
| by Anonymous | reply 77 | May 7, 2018 7:46 PM |
Can't wait to see this. It's a fascinating story. Jeremy Thorpe was a huge political figure at the time and many were predicting him as Prime Minister material. It was a huge and shocking scandal. I hope they do it justice. The trailer looks very promising.
| by Anonymous | reply 78 | May 7, 2018 7:47 PM |
I am glad, R77 - I don't think the Americans understood what the hell I was going on about...at first.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 79 | May 7, 2018 7:53 PM |
Ben Whishaw played several gay characters in the very early days of his acting career, but I love the fact that he's played so many more since coming out. Cloud Atlas, Lilting, London Spy, Queers and this.
| by Anonymous | reply 80 | May 7, 2018 8:09 PM |
It wasn't a comedy at the time. Homosexuality wasn't really spoken about and you just saw Thorpe walking past photographers looking serious.
I think making it a comedy is the wrong way to go.
| by Anonymous | reply 82 | May 8, 2018 12:17 AM |
[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 83 | May 8, 2018 12:18 AM |
Excuse me while I kiss the sky
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 84 | May 8, 2018 12:19 AM |
[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 86 | May 8, 2018 12:34 AM |
'scuse me while I kiss this guy
| by Anonymous | reply 87 | May 8, 2018 2:30 AM |
[quote]'Sadly they've also turned it into a bit of a comedy. It's far too light, given what happened. They showed selected critics the first episode and the producers were pleased because they laughed through a lot of it. But my story isn't a comedy – it's about the total destruction of a person.'
Yes, Scott is correct, but not the way he believes. It's about a politician whose life was destroyed by a mentally unstable blackmailer.
Thanks, OP. I've just spent a couple of hours acquainting myself with this story. I vaguely recall it from long ago, but I really don't think the details were given much coverage here in the US (at least, not in the Midwest).
| by Anonymous | reply 88 | May 8, 2018 3:44 AM |
"I think making it a comedy is the wrong way to go."
Who knows, but based on the trailer it looks more like a drama with some darkly humorous moments, rather than a laugh-out-loud chucklefest. We'll see.
| by Anonymous | reply 89 | May 8, 2018 3:47 AM |
Thorpe's life was crazy. He was a totally mussyhound. In the Michael Bloch book there's an anecdote about how he picked up a male prostitute, then a couple weeks later picked up the same male prostitute, and initially didn't realize it was the same guy he'd picked up before.
| by Anonymous | reply 90 | May 8, 2018 4:04 AM |
How would Mr. Bloch even know this, R90?
| by Anonymous | reply 91 | May 8, 2018 5:14 AM |
R91 he was the prostitute?
| by Anonymous | reply 92 | May 8, 2018 7:31 AM |
[quote]Frears has done some excellent gay-themed films, My Beautiful Laundrette and Prick Up Your Ears.
r15, is he the one that came out as gay and then soon after married a woman and had a kid? I seem to recall some story about this but I can't remember the name of the director.
| by Anonymous | reply 93 | May 8, 2018 8:33 AM |
Whishaw did a lovely monologue in the series Queers.
| by Anonymous | reply 94 | May 8, 2018 8:59 AM |
[quote]is he the one that came out as gay and then soon after married a woman and had a kid? I seem to recall some story about this but I can't remember the name of the director.
You might be thinking of theatre and film director Stephen Daldry. He was an out gay, and partnered. Later he was thought to be all too close to Jamie Bell; The Mail was sniffing around, dropping heavy hints. Quite soon afterwards Daldry married a woman.
| by Anonymous | reply 95 | May 8, 2018 12:11 PM |
Looks good. Maybe we'll get it on Netflix?
| by Anonymous | reply 97 | May 8, 2018 12:37 PM |
A lot of people on DL have a way of accessing stuff from England. They're magicians really.
| by Anonymous | reply 98 | May 8, 2018 12:39 PM |
[quote]They're magicians really.
Not magic, just knowledge. There are plenty of online film and TV series free streaming sites where you can watch just about anything from anywhere in the world and often with subtitles for whatever language you speak. Popular series are posted online within a few hours of being aired.
| by Anonymous | reply 99 | May 8, 2018 12:44 PM |
I'd love to be all too close to Jamie Bell.
| by Anonymous | reply 100 | May 8, 2018 1:35 PM |
[quote]is he the one that came out as gay and then soon after married a woman and had a kid? I seem to recall some story about this but I can't remember the name of the director.
Frears has always been open about his same-sex experiences as a young man, but has been married to women twice.
| by Anonymous | reply 101 | May 8, 2018 1:49 PM |
Frears has a son called Sam, with a dreadful sort of wasting disease. They made a documentary about him.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 102 | May 8, 2018 2:18 PM |
"How would Mr. Bloch even know this, R90?"
You know writers have sources, right?
| by Anonymous | reply 103 | May 8, 2018 4:04 PM |
The real story sort of is a black comedy. The whole bit where Scott's dog was killed kind of sums up the absurdity of the thing. Auberon Waugh stood in the 1979 election for The Dog Lovers Party, purely to satirize the Thorpe scandal.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 104 | May 8, 2018 5:59 PM |
[quote]You might be thinking of theatre and film director Stephen Daldry. He was an out gay, and partnered. Later he was thought to be all too close to Jamie Bell; The Mail was sniffing around, dropping heavy hints. Quite soon afterwards Daldry married a woman.
r95, thanks, that's who I was thinking of. Did Daldry later clarify and come out as bisexual or does he say he's ex-gay now?
| by Anonymous | reply 106 | May 8, 2018 11:49 PM |
^ No, he says he's still attracted to men
| by Anonymous | reply 107 | May 9, 2018 12:59 AM |
Hugh Grant will die in closet
| by Anonymous | reply 108 | May 9, 2018 1:01 AM |
I don't think there's anything more to say until they transmit this thing, R110.
| by Anonymous | reply 111 | May 9, 2018 9:35 PM |
Few things annoy me more than bumpers, if you have something to contribute to the thread say something. Don't just write some pointless bump, no one wants to see a thread updated in their threadlist for the word bump.
You are asking other people to contribute when you don't even have anything to say.
| by Anonymous | reply 112 | May 9, 2018 9:38 PM |
r111, must you make it sound like.....like.....rabies?
| by Anonymous | reply 113 | May 9, 2018 9:43 PM |
r112, for all practical purposes, this post is a bump. You like more words?
| by Anonymous | reply 114 | May 9, 2018 9:48 PM |
Here is an interview with Whishaw in support of A Very English Scandal. It's from Tumblr because no one is paying for The Telegraph.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 115 | May 9, 2018 9:55 PM |
[quote]Few things annoy me more than bumpers, if you have something to contribute to the thread say something. Don't just write some pointless bump, no one wants to see a thread updated in their threadlist for the word bump.
Gurl, NO!
If someone bumps a thread, people who [bold]may not have seen it yet,[/bold] might see it and want to read it or contribute to it.
& the person who bumps it, also does so, because he's interested in the topic and is hoping there are people out there who might have something more to contribute.
It's not all about YOU.
| by Anonymous | reply 116 | May 9, 2018 10:28 PM |
Whishaw in comedy TV series Nathan Barley (2005)
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 117 | May 9, 2018 10:39 PM |
[quote]It's not all about YOU.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
| by Anonymous | reply 118 | May 9, 2018 10:47 PM |
What angered the British public more, the buggery or the dog-killing?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 119 | May 9, 2018 10:54 PM |
Bump bitches serve no purpose.
| by Anonymous | reply 120 | May 10, 2018 12:33 AM |
When I was around 18 I worked in a bar (pub) in Manchester UK, the Landlady (owner) of this bar was a former air stewardess who told me a lot of stories about the 'Jeremy Thorpe Affair'.
She had apparently owned a very large house in Blackpool and rented a room to a former colleague named Andrew Newton who allegedly shot Norman Scott's dog, she had been called as a witness at the trial. She said that the whole thing was true but as she was a drunk I didn't really take much notice.
The other interesting thing was that whenever George Carmen QC (Jeremy Thorpe's Lawyer) was a very regular customer, who gave £100 tips for ! bottle of champagne.
I was never sure about the veracity of her claims until many years later with the advent of the internet, sounds like they were true.
This source confirms pretty much what she told me back in 1986.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 122 | May 11, 2018 12:06 AM |
^^ Whenever George Carmen QC (Jeremy Thorpe's Lawyer) was in [BOLD] Manchester [/BOLD] ^^
| by Anonymous | reply 123 | May 11, 2018 12:21 AM |
I love this quote:
[quote]It saw Thorpe - Eton, Oxford, Inns of Court - tried and acquitted of conspiracy to murder alongside a fruit machine salesman described by the judge as "the sort of man whose taste might run to a cocktail bar in the living-room".
I'll link the article in the next post
| by Anonymous | reply 124 | May 11, 2018 2:24 AM |
[post redacted because independent.co.uk thinks that links to their ridiculous rag are a bad thing. Somebody might want to tell them how the internet works. Or not. We don't really care. They do suck though. Our advice is that you should not click on the link and whatever you do, don't read their truly terrible articles.]
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 125 | May 11, 2018 2:24 AM |
Looks like a really great drama... A shame though they have allegedly taken as many liberties with Scott's character.
| by Anonymous | reply 126 | May 11, 2018 3:27 AM |
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Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 127 | May 11, 2018 4:14 AM |
[quote]What angered the British public more, the buggery or the dog-killing?
For 'Daily Mail' readers it was the buggery, for 'Daily Telegraph' readers it was the dog-killing, for 'Daily Express' readers it was both.
Readers of 'The Sun' and 'The Times' couldn't see what all the fuss was about.
| by Anonymous | reply 128 | May 11, 2018 6:36 AM |
Heh, Ben played Hugh's wife in Cloud Atlas.
| by Anonymous | reply 129 | May 11, 2018 7:28 AM |
r93 is thinking of Stephen Daldry, who directed BILLY ELLIOT.
Stephen Frears has been a longtime, openly gay director of DANGEROUS LIASONS, THE QUEEN, FLORENCE FOSTER JENKINS, VICTORIA & ABDUL, HIGH FIDELITY, THE GRIFTERS and pro-gay shows like PHILOMENA, PRICK UP YOUR EARS and MY BEAUTIFUL LAUNDRETTE.
He's done a lot of quality work and very loyally gay.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 130 | May 11, 2018 7:50 AM |
Daldry has hinted that his marriage to a woman had something to do with getting a VISA or Green Card -- but he can't say that explicitly to the public or Immigration officials.
| by Anonymous | reply 131 | May 11, 2018 7:52 AM |
WTF is wrong with Hugh Grant's face?
The jowls and blemishes -- my God. Please tell me he's wearing prosthetics for the character, because he did not have a lumpy face in FLORENCE FOSTER JENKINS.
| by Anonymous | reply 132 | May 11, 2018 7:53 AM |
[quote]Stephen Frears has been a longtime, openly gay director
While it's true that Frears has been involved in lots of gay-related films and series, how is he "openly gay"? He is currently married to a woman, divorced from another one, and has four kids. I don't quite follow you.
| by Anonymous | reply 133 | May 11, 2018 9:30 AM |
Hugh Grant is looking fine, STFU R132. The man is 57, what did you expect?
| by Anonymous | reply 134 | May 11, 2018 10:32 AM |
[quote]What angered the British public more, the buggery or the dog-killing?
Who killed the dog, Hugh Grant or Ben?
| by Anonymous | reply 135 | May 11, 2018 12:40 PM |
Hugh Grant also played a gay theater director in the wildly underrated and unseen An Awfully Big Adventure. He's very good. Alan Rickman is also in it.
| by Anonymous | reply 136 | May 11, 2018 1:03 PM |
Neither, R135. Someone sent to intimidate Ben's character shot his dog to do so.
| by Anonymous | reply 137 | May 11, 2018 5:59 PM |
He was sent to kill him, not just "intimidate" him
| by Anonymous | reply 138 | May 12, 2018 1:36 AM |
Yes, and his dog had not even been considered in the original directive; Scott had insisted taking his dog along in the car, and then he became the casualty.
| by Anonymous | reply 139 | May 12, 2018 2:05 AM |
Stephen Daldry is supposed to be directing Wicked.
They still haven't announced a cast and it isn't very reasonable to assume it wont have some degree of complicated CGI issues. I hope they shelve it. Or if he does do it -- they make it as gay as the books implied.
| by Anonymous | reply 140 | May 12, 2018 2:25 AM |
Interesting, here Hugh says "There i was SNOGGING Ben W..."
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 141 | May 12, 2018 4:52 AM |
Buggery angering the British public?
Why, it's practically the other national sport!
| by Anonymous | reply 142 | May 12, 2018 6:43 AM |
@R141. Lovely video. Thanks for sharing it.
| by Anonymous | reply 143 | May 12, 2018 3:13 PM |
[quote]The drama features some racy scenes between Grant and Whishaw early on, and the pair didn’t hold back when it came to delivering a convincing romance – having previously played a married couple in 2012’s Cloud Atlas. Speaking to Metro.co.uk about the erotic scenes, Hugh joked: ‘When he was my wife, we were a very unhappy couple. In this one, we just went for it. ‘There we were on a Sunday morning shooting, we do a whole love story really in a day. We just went for it. I got a rash. I went home to my kids with a rash from Ben’s beard.’
R141, Lovely video!
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 144 | May 13, 2018 12:27 AM |
They're starting to show previews on the BBC.
Hope it lives up to the hype.
& hope as many American (& Canadian) DLers as possible will find a way to see it.
How many episodes are there, I'm wondering?
| by Anonymous | reply 145 | May 13, 2018 12:33 AM |
Russell T Dav is the worst.
That Midsummer Night’s Dream May have been produced by edgy high schoolers. These edgy high schoolers
On the plus side he’s not Andrew Davies.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 149 | May 13, 2018 3:40 AM |
God, James Wilby looks older than I'd think. Father Time is such a bastard.
Very nice interview, r141, thanks.
| by Anonymous | reply 150 | May 13, 2018 3:46 AM |
Hour long documentary about Jeremy Thorpe.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 151 | May 14, 2018 11:02 AM |
At least Rupert Graves is still a silver fox.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 154 | May 15, 2018 1:08 AM |
Rupert aged the best out of the three Maurice guys
| by Anonymous | reply 155 | May 15, 2018 2:09 AM |
[quote]God, James Wilby looks older than I'd think. Father Time is such a bastard.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 156 | May 15, 2018 2:48 AM |
After all these years I'd STILL ejaculate on Rupert Graves' face!!!!!!
| by Anonymous | reply 157 | May 16, 2018 5:20 PM |
Rupert's got like half a dozen kids? Or maybe 'only' five. Far too many, who has so many children nowadays?
| by Anonymous | reply 159 | May 17, 2018 4:50 PM |
The lucky bitch who's getting barebacked by Rupert Graves.
| by Anonymous | reply 160 | May 17, 2018 5:39 PM |
I wouldn't use the term "lucky bitch" to describe a woman saddled with 5 kids and an old man as a husband
| by Anonymous | reply 161 | May 17, 2018 8:52 PM |
I don't consider 56 an old man.
| by Anonymous | reply 162 | May 18, 2018 12:30 AM |
Hugh Grant really wrecked his face with sun damage. He looks like my great-uncle, who is nearly 30 years older. If he tries to fix that, he’ll look like a Las Vegas performer.
| by Anonymous | reply 164 | May 18, 2018 4:58 AM |
HAWT!
[quote]Hugh Grant discusses gay sex scenes with Ben Whishaw: ‘We just went for it. I got a rash from Ben’s beard’
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 165 | May 18, 2018 8:45 PM |
Don't worry about it, R167.
| by Anonymous | reply 168 | May 18, 2018 8:59 PM |
When Lewis Tan was cast as the bisexual Shatterstar people on Twitter were hoping that he and Deadpool would be lovers. Instead they get lesbian Negasonic Teenage warhead.
| by Anonymous | reply 169 | May 18, 2018 9:44 PM |
Hugh Grant seems to be getting some of the facial expressions.
| by Anonymous | reply 171 | May 19, 2018 2:34 AM |
It's airing tomorrow, British DLers please report back to us!
| by Anonymous | reply 172 | May 19, 2018 9:25 PM |
It's just started on BBC1 (!). Five minutes in. Hugh Grant's performance is incredible.
| by Anonymous | reply 173 | May 20, 2018 9:06 PM |
"Now I'm going to kiss you. And you will enjoy it".
Their first kiss. Hugh slips him a bit of tongue.
"Just hop on to all fours, there's a good chap."
| by Anonymous | reply 175 | May 20, 2018 9:23 PM |
Their second kiss is the one seen in the trailer. Grant licks Ben's long neck. I'm telling you, Grant is amazing in the role.
| by Anonymous | reply 176 | May 20, 2018 9:24 PM |
OMG, a montage ending in a very brief scene of Grant wanking Ben off outside the Houses of Parliament. I can't believe this is on BBC1. Usually they show anything too "adult" or risky on BBC2.
| by Anonymous | reply 177 | May 20, 2018 9:26 PM |
It's good fun, I'm enjoying it.
| by Anonymous | reply 179 | May 20, 2018 9:31 PM |
It's marvelous. For the first half hour, Ben's character is like a lost puppy, very shy and subdued, so the bigger performance is by Grant, who's brimming with confidence. But now you can start to see Ben's character emerging and the performance is becoming a little more assertive. They're both a joy to watch.
| by Anonymous | reply 180 | May 20, 2018 9:34 PM |
[quote]But now you can start to see Ben's character emerging and the performance is becoming a little more assertive.
I can see why Thorpe wanted to kill him. Acting like he's the victim in this relationship was crazy. He was a kept man and should've been happy with it.
| by Anonymous | reply 181 | May 20, 2018 9:38 PM |
Oh, the portrayal of Leo Abse is a bit shitty. Literally, the only flaw so far. They make him seem like a funny looking little do-gooding homophobe. That's a shame.
| by Anonymous | reply 182 | May 20, 2018 9:42 PM |
Bloody hell, I forgot.
I'll have to watch it on catch up.
| by Anonymous | reply 183 | May 20, 2018 9:59 PM |
That was superb. Can't wait for next week. It's a great night on BBC1. After the news in half an hour there's an episode of "Imagine" (arts documentary series) following Rupert Everett over the course of five years while he tried to get his Wilde film made.
| by Anonymous | reply 184 | May 20, 2018 10:01 PM |
[quote] After the news in half an hour there's an episode of "Imagine" (arts documentary series) following Rupert Everett over the course of five years while he tried to get his Wilde film made.
Oh, good - I would have missed that as well. Thank you.
Then I'll watch Hugh and Ben on catch up.
Feel better now.
| by Anonymous | reply 185 | May 20, 2018 10:06 PM |
Saw 1st episode, afraid a poster is hyping up Hugh Grant way too much. Can't imagine DLers will be impressed with him.
I'm glad he's let himself be shown as the age he is or even older. Wrinkles, crow's feet, really rough looking etc and the 1st scene I genuinely thought it was one of the Fox brothers , James or Edward. Hugh Grant looked and sounded a lot like them. Until the camera went in a bit closer.
Other half was slagging it off slightly as it seemed to him they were setting up Ben Wishaw as the bad guy from the start. So you'd on Hugh Grant's side. I actually found Ben attractive in his shirtless washing himself scene, nice body. Slim now, he's put on a few gram so not so skinny. As he goes on, reminded me slightly of Norman Bates performance wise
It's not bad, it a 3 parter so maybe will get better. And after he helped exposed the newspaper scandals, I swore I'd never say a bad word about Hugh again. But he does actually give a decent performance.
| by Anonymous | reply 186 | May 20, 2018 10:30 PM |
"And he must note write letters to my mother about anal sex under any circumstances whatsoever!"
| by Anonymous | reply 187 | May 20, 2018 10:45 PM |
I felt as nervous as Ben did, when the jar of Vaseline glided down next to him on the bedside cabinet.
| by Anonymous | reply 188 | May 20, 2018 10:49 PM |
Will it be shown in the US?
| by Anonymous | reply 189 | May 21, 2018 1:54 AM |
[quote]Saw 1st episode, afraid a poster is hyping up Hugh Grant way too much. Can't imagine DLers will be impressed with him.
People on Twitter were saying it was a BAFTA worthy performance. I didn't think so, but what do I know. I didn't think he was worthy for a BAFTA for his performances in PADDINGTON 2.
| by Anonymous | reply 190 | May 21, 2018 5:14 AM |
The Guardian's critic loved it:
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 191 | May 21, 2018 9:23 AM |
[bold]A Very English Scandal episode 1 review: Hugh Grant soars in Russell T Davies' outrageous comic tragedy[/bold]
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 192 | May 21, 2018 9:27 AM |
The first installment is uploaded to d.ailymotion.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 193 | May 21, 2018 2:42 PM |
R193 I click. It doesn't open. The pic disappears. Same in 2 browsers.
| by Anonymous | reply 194 | May 21, 2018 2:50 PM |
A Very English Scandal is available online for streaming at several free sites.
| by Anonymous | reply 195 | May 21, 2018 2:54 PM |
If you do a search on Dailymotion it's there. Sorry that the link isn't working here.
| by Anonymous | reply 196 | May 21, 2018 2:55 PM |
It's also available on openload.com and ondarewatch.com.
| by Anonymous | reply 197 | May 21, 2018 2:59 PM |
DailyMotion doesn't link on DL for some reason.
Had a problem with this last week over that gay concentration camp survivor.
| by Anonymous | reply 198 | May 21, 2018 3:08 PM |
So typical of DL to have defenders of a killer queen/queen killer R88 "It's about a politician whose life was destroyed by a mentally unstable blackmailer."
| by Anonymous | reply 199 | May 21, 2018 3:28 PM |
Shame this didn't play in the USA at the same time. This thread would be going into Part 3 by now.
| by Anonymous | reply 200 | May 21, 2018 3:30 PM |
Off topic: is Ben’s relationship still going well with his beau? Don’t know much about his private life...
| by Anonymous | reply 201 | May 21, 2018 4:33 PM |
By all accounts he is still happily married to Mark Bradshaw.
| by Anonymous | reply 202 | May 21, 2018 4:40 PM |
R202 That’s great! Thanks for answering.
| by Anonymous | reply 203 | May 21, 2018 5:37 PM |
R190 Sorry didn't mean to sound harsh. I think Hugh Grant's a better actor generally than he's given credit for
A good thing about the programme was they showed a few scenes of the dog, a nice little fellow, without going all cutesy poo and sickly sweet with it. Setting up maybe the "tragedy" of the piece. Would't be surprised if the emotional heft of the whole mini series being the fate of the little chap.
And you gets lots of full on, close up kissing. Even hough it is between Ben and grandpa Hugh
| by Anonymous | reply 204 | May 21, 2018 6:30 PM |
The dog was very sweet, Mrs. Tish. The two men were less sweet. Not the romance of the century, by any means.
I got it to work by doing what r196 said.
| by Anonymous | reply 205 | May 21, 2018 6:35 PM |
It probably won't be the same dog When Tragedy Strikes.
| by Anonymous | reply 206 | May 21, 2018 7:21 PM |
We heard the dog already died. One of the letters Jeremy wrote to Bunny was about her death.
| by Anonymous | reply 207 | May 21, 2018 7:37 PM |
There's another dog, a very important one.
| by Anonymous | reply 208 | May 21, 2018 7:46 PM |
r196 - thank you!!!!
I just watched it. I thought it was excellent. Loved the badger guy.
| by Anonymous | reply 209 | May 22, 2018 3:32 AM |
The reviews are very good
| by Anonymous | reply 210 | May 22, 2018 5:07 PM |
Outstanding. Brilliantly evocative of the period, pacing perfect. Not sure Grant has ever been better, superbly catching Thorpe's overconfident old-fashioned charm.
Laughed at Grant politely entertaining Ben as Norman by playing the violin with his icy mother at the piano; and when Thorpe mixed panic with assurance using unaccented French in seeking that rogue suitcase in Switzerland.
Teared up at Lord Arran's speech about his brother. Irony of course in Arran believing that society killed homosexuals one way or another - and the episode ending as it did, with Thorpe seeing no other option but murder.
If this standard is maintained, and why not, awards aplenty await.
| by Anonymous | reply 212 | May 22, 2018 9:41 PM |
[quote]using unaccented French
Huh? Is this some kind of joke? He sounded like a cartoon Englishman speaking French--Hercule Poirot in reverse.
| by Anonymous | reply 213 | May 22, 2018 10:04 PM |
Will be shown on Amazon Prime starting on June 29th
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 214 | May 23, 2018 4:43 AM |
[quote]Will be shown on Amazon Prime starting on June 29th
That's dreadful.
| by Anonymous | reply 215 | May 23, 2018 4:47 AM |
You'd rather wait a full year, r215, as we did with that show with Julian Morris?
| by Anonymous | reply 216 | May 23, 2018 9:38 AM |
Fuck Amazon. Watch it now on a free site.
| by Anonymous | reply 217 | May 23, 2018 9:40 AM |
"Are you my little bunny?"
| by Anonymous | reply 218 | May 24, 2018 2:32 AM |
OP here.
Finally watched it.
I thought it was very draggy.
Hugh Grant is a boring one note actor. He's merely adequate in this.
And ultimately I think Jeremy Thorpe and little Norman were boring fucking people.
I think the trailer is far more exciting than the actual show.
Ben Winshaw's pretty good though...but playing such a pathetic little man. It was depressing.
I'm sorry that I started this thread with so much excitement...because it's NOT very exciting.
| by Anonymous | reply 219 | May 25, 2018 11:00 PM |
Hugh Grant makes me happy, because I’m only a year younger but have none of his facial furrows.
| by Anonymous | reply 220 | May 25, 2018 11:31 PM |
R219, Thorpe was many things but he was NOT boring.
| by Anonymous | reply 221 | May 26, 2018 1:25 AM |
Norman Scott is claiming that Thorpe raped him and was emotionally abusive towards. He also says Thorpe tried to get him to have orgies with sailors!!!
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 222 | May 26, 2018 3:51 AM |
[quote]More than 40 years later he still fears for his life.
This bitch.
| by Anonymous | reply 223 | May 26, 2018 3:53 AM |
I thought he had Norman killed.
| by Anonymous | reply 224 | May 26, 2018 4:26 AM |
R224, it was ATTEMPTED murder
| by Anonymous | reply 225 | May 26, 2018 2:34 PM |
[quote]Scott said: “Jeremy had procured my National Insurance card from Norman Vater when I left his yard.“More than any of the degradation he subjected me to, it was his adamant refusal to give it back that undid me. I still don’t have it. “He took away my ability to be independent, to earn for myself and pull myself from a toxic relationship. He owned every part of me.”
[quote]Having spent his working life without his NI card, unable to pay contributions towards his pension, Scott is only entitled to £43 a week.
Why the fuck couldn't Scott get a new one? People lose them all the time, I'm sure.
| by Anonymous | reply 226 | May 26, 2018 3:34 PM |
Dear Norman, if you're reading this >>
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 227 | May 26, 2018 3:36 PM |
[quote]I think Jeremy Thorpe and little Norman were boring fucking people.
Even if that were true, the fact that the former saw no option other than to have the latter killed is of great interest.
If Bernie Sanders (Thorpe's rough equivalent) had tried to have a troublesome neurotic former lover killed, it would be interesting. And Thorpe was a far more flamboyant Establishment figure than Sanders.
It was called 'The Trial Of The Century' for a reason.
| by Anonymous | reply 228 | May 26, 2018 4:09 PM |
What's clear is that Scott is still a pathetic whiner/victim.
Thorpe should have chosen his company more carefully. Fucking idiot.
& it's also clear he abused his authority over Scott and deserved to fall because of it.
| by Anonymous | reply 229 | May 26, 2018 4:11 PM |
[quote]Even if that were true, the fact that the former saw no option other than to have the latter killed is of great interest.
Yes, true - but this one fact doesn't make for a very scintillating 3 part TV miniseries.
They're dull.
| by Anonymous | reply 230 | May 26, 2018 4:14 PM |
^ The next 2 parts haven't even aired yet. Give it a chance
| by Anonymous | reply 231 | May 26, 2018 4:28 PM |
How in the goddamn fuck can anything think this story or the two main characters are DULL!!??
| by Anonymous | reply 232 | May 26, 2018 5:21 PM |
[quote]How in the goddamn fuck can anything think this story or the two main characters are DULL!!??
Have you even fucking seen it?
and try not to fucking swear, it's horrible.
| by Anonymous | reply 233 | May 26, 2018 10:25 PM |
Oooh, we haven't seem a mincing prisspot for a while!
| by Anonymous | reply 234 | May 26, 2018 11:52 PM |
I chuckled at the at 13:55 mark. "You've been one of the most confirmed bachelors in the House of Commons...."
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 237 | May 27, 2018 4:22 AM |
2nd episode just started. Thought the tone was a bit too light for the 1st episode. But the 2nd one is mixing it better with darker humour.
Perfectly delivered line by the Jennings actor to Hugh Grant's " Kill him, drop the body off at Bodmin Moor" "But that's my constituency"
I lost interest halfway through 1st episode , started doing other things ,so didn't know about dog being dead. This is a lot more gripping from the get go, the Norman Scott wedding scene speech by his about to be father in law was a bit of a jawdropper.
| by Anonymous | reply 238 | May 27, 2018 9:12 PM |
The subdued tone lasted for all of 22 minutes and it returned to its campy form.
Thorpe and Norman are two idiots who didn't know how to let things go.
| by Anonymous | reply 239 | May 27, 2018 9:31 PM |
True, but I'm still find it more interesting than last week's.
Ben's growing on me in this, I thought he was a bit Norman Bates last time, but I'm getting Blanche DuBois vibes from him now. I could cuddle him at times. He's certainly to put it politely " fragile emotionally".
Did think before she started speaking it was Imelda Staunton then Tracy Ullman popping up as Thorpe's 2nd wife. And the guy trying to help Norman is 70's porn star mustache nice.
| by Anonymous | reply 240 | May 27, 2018 9:50 PM |
R199, You're entitled to your opinion, of course. I used to read a lot of classic murder mysteries from the 20s and 30s, and I recall that a common plot device involved blackmail. And it seemed to be understood that blackmail was an especially heinous crime, and might justify murdering the blackmailer. This story unfolds at a time when homosexual sex in England was still criminalized. Norman Scott was (is) obviously mentally unstable, and vindictive as well, and was determined to destroy Thorpe any way he could.
R222's article has Norman Scott continuing to embellish his stories, and even though Thorpe died years ago, claims he still lives in fear. Both protagonists were gay, in this case. But my sympathies tend to lie with the person who was being blackmailed, not the blackmailer.
| by Anonymous | reply 241 | May 27, 2018 10:42 PM |
[quote]Both protagonists were gay, in this case. But my sympathies tend to lie with the person who was being blackmailed, not the blackmailer.
I'm not sympathetic to either. They deserved each other.
| by Anonymous | reply 242 | May 27, 2018 10:52 PM |
Freaky!
and from a WOMAN!
[quote]The BBC One drama is purest catnip to me. I want to roll around in it, like some randy stable boy in hay.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 243 | May 27, 2018 11:00 PM |
Ben Whishaw even seems fed up with Norman and his quest for a National Insurance card.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 244 | May 27, 2018 11:13 PM |
Thorpe - the way he talks is really from another era.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 245 | May 28, 2018 3:04 AM |
Hugh talks about the role and Jeremy.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 246 | May 28, 2018 3:05 AM |
Bizarre, and inappropriate music they use. Makes watching it exhausting.
| by Anonymous | reply 248 | May 28, 2018 10:34 AM |
Sorry - I was distracted by a slew of W&Ws
A friend of mine griped about the music and I hadn't noticed it. But this last show was ridiculous with this awful pacey jokey music. He called it Benny Hill music and he's right. Doesn't work AT ALL.
Gurl, NO!
| by Anonymous | reply 249 | May 28, 2018 10:37 AM |
Very good interview with Hugh here >
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 250 | May 28, 2018 11:03 AM |
In defence of the music it does evoke the sheer widespread tackiness of 70s UK. And if the pacing of the second half of Part Two was too hectic - that spoke to the out-of-control desperation of the entire plot. The deeply seedy Blackpool nightclub, the clueless killer. It's an incredible story, well told.
| by Anonymous | reply 251 | May 28, 2018 7:44 PM |
[quote]In defence of the music it does evoke the sheer widespread tackiness of 70s UK
Not really, maybe a kitschy 2108 idea of it. They might just as well have added a laugh track
...and we called it England then.
| by Anonymous | reply 252 | May 28, 2018 7:59 PM |
Yeah, the tone of the second half of this episode was off, and it undercut the otherwise excellent performances. Just too whimsical by half, and the was score was a major culprit. At times felt like I was watching an episode of Doc Martin, sans guitar.
The Blackpool escapade was awful and should've been either excised entirely or reduced to a single beat. It was a self-satisfied caricature of 70s working class culture than a portrayal of it, and there's enough in the script already to show us that Andrew's an impulsive, incompetent, twat (to the point of incredulity) that we didn't need to him to plant custard pie's on a girl's bear baps, starting a Monty Python brawl in the process.
| by Anonymous | reply 253 | May 28, 2018 8:16 PM |
*pies
*bare baps
*kicking off a Monty Python-esque brawl
| by Anonymous | reply 254 | May 28, 2018 8:17 PM |
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Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 255 | June 2, 2018 2:04 AM |
That was a joy to watch, r71. Thanks for posting it.
| by Anonymous | reply 256 | June 2, 2018 2:50 AM |
Tomorrow nite (Sunday 3rd june 18) - BBC 4 - 10PM
There's a documentary - with footage from a documentary made in 1979, which was apparently banned.
The guy who made it was on TV this morning. They also told him to burn it (he thought "gurl, please" - and he kept it).
[quote]In 1979, Panorama reporter Tom Mangold led an investigation into the trial of Jeremy Thorpe and others for the alleged conspiracy to kill Thorpe's former lover, Norman Scott. Convinced that the former Liberal Party leader would be found guilty, a special post-trial programme was prepared. This was scrapped, however, when the jury returned its verdicts of not guilty for all defendants, and the programme has remained unseen for almost 40 years.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 257 | June 2, 2018 10:55 AM |
Here's the guy who made the 1979 documentary.
He looks pretty good for 83.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 258 | June 2, 2018 10:58 AM |
The documentary looks juicy
| by Anonymous | reply 259 | June 3, 2018 2:35 AM |
They're re-opening the case! Someone contact Jessica Fletcher!!!
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 260 | June 3, 2018 2:42 AM |
But will Norman get his National Insurance card?
| by Anonymous | reply 261 | June 3, 2018 2:46 AM |
I agree R233. That unnecessary four letter word has been used over 18 times in this thread.
| by Anonymous | reply 262 | June 3, 2018 2:46 AM |
If they ever fucking show this in the USA we'll have to go through all this all over again.
| by Anonymous | reply 263 | June 3, 2018 2:58 AM |
It's interesting that Michelle Dotrice was in last week's episode (which I caught up with last night), because at certain points Ben Whishaw's performance was slightly reminiscent of Frank Spencer.
| by Anonymous | reply 264 | June 3, 2018 7:04 AM |
I see Hugh Grant has deliberately extended his jaw downwards contorting his face to look more wrinkled in order to resemble Thorpe.
| by Anonymous | reply 265 | June 3, 2018 7:11 AM |
[quote]Ben Whishaw's performance was slightly reminiscent of Frank Spencer.
And Norman Scott would surely have seen Frank Spencer, prominent as he was as a 70s TV character. Someone upthread referenced Monty Python re: the Blackpool grotesquerie, which wasn't for me a demerit.
I'm old enough to remember the times, and such hints of the era add to the drama's flavour and authenticity.
| by Anonymous | reply 266 | June 3, 2018 7:12 AM |
[quote]Part 3 tonight
and the best of the three it was. By FAR.
5 STARS *****
| by Anonymous | reply 268 | June 4, 2018 12:47 AM |
Now the Entertainment Lawyer is claiming that Jeremy Thorpe was part of an international pedophile ring! Bwa!!!
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 270 | June 4, 2018 3:14 AM |
Enty should just begin posting a link to this site on Infowars and be done with it.
| by Anonymous | reply 271 | June 4, 2018 3:22 AM |
Link to the Jeremy Thorpe documentary mentioned at r257
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 272 | June 4, 2018 4:41 AM |
This whole saga just got a lot more bizarre. Cops tracked hitman Andrew Newton down, only to be told by his female friend/partner/whatever that he doesn't live there.....oh, and there's a picture of him in a leather thong at the link!
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 273 | June 4, 2018 4:17 PM |
Outstanding three-parter. Best thing I've seen on TV for ages - and up there with the best ever. Unforgettable.
| by Anonymous | reply 274 | June 4, 2018 6:29 PM |
"I'm old enough to remember the times, and such hints of the era add to the drama's flavour and authenticity."
I adore FLAVAH!
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 275 | June 4, 2018 11:49 PM |
Adrian Scarborough as George Carman QC was a fantastic addition to that final episode.
| by Anonymous | reply 276 | June 5, 2018 12:10 AM |
And his landlady, Dotrice, was excellent....wasn't she the little girl in Mary Poppins?
| by Anonymous | reply 277 | June 5, 2018 12:51 AM |
R277 She was the little girl in Mary Poppins and she had a father named Roy Dotrice who was rather annoying in every I saw.
| by Anonymous | reply 278 | June 5, 2018 12:58 AM |
Frank Spencer's wife was not the little girl in Mary Poppins. That was her sister in Poppins.
| by Anonymous | reply 279 | June 5, 2018 1:02 AM |
Sheesh, r278. Jane. Her name was....Jane.
| by Anonymous | reply 280 | June 5, 2018 1:08 AM |
Karen Dotrice played Jane Banks in Mary Poppins R278, Michele Dotrice , her older sister, famed as Mrs Frank Spencer, was landlady Mrs Friendship. Their father, Roy, died last year but was still acting in his 90s in 'Game of Thrones'. The Dotrice family is an acting dynasty along the lines of the Redgraves or Mills but not quite as elevated.
| by Anonymous | reply 281 | June 5, 2018 1:30 AM |
It's Michele in this. She was not in Mary Poppins, that was her sister, Karen.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 282 | June 5, 2018 1:36 AM |
Loved the scene where Carman asks Thorpe what he saw in Scott. Great acting from Grant and Scarborough.
| by Anonymous | reply 283 | June 5, 2018 2:30 AM |
[quote]Loved the scene where Carman asks Thorpe what he saw in Scott.
Loved it? It showed him getting beat up by rough trade.
| by Anonymous | reply 284 | June 5, 2018 2:59 AM |
It's a quietly affecting scene, beautifully underplayed by both actors.
| by Anonymous | reply 285 | June 5, 2018 3:06 AM |
R281 The Dotrice family was an "acting dynasty' on a very, very low level.
The Mills family was an 'acting dynasty' on a slightly higher level.
The Redgrave family is a genuine 'acting dynasty'.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 287 | June 5, 2018 3:07 AM |
You still got the wrong Dotrice sister R287 I win the queeny trivia prize.
| by Anonymous | reply 288 | June 5, 2018 3:14 AM |
For years I've known the Peter Cook sketch mocking the judge and had always assumed it was an exaggeration done for comic effect. So I was amazed to discover that it was basically a word-for-word rendition of his actual summing up for the jury. Incredible.
| by Anonymous | reply 289 | June 5, 2018 11:37 AM |
Though possibly not with the 'player of the pink oboe' line, R289.
| by Anonymous | reply 290 | June 5, 2018 12:26 PM |
I liked it. Being a fan of true crime stories and British culture, it was a fun mishmash of two entertaining genres. It was not heavy and gloomy, and I appreciated that. It wasn't an award winning effort, but it was a quirky, enjoyable look at a case of the times.
| by Anonymous | reply 291 | June 5, 2018 6:06 PM |
We need Miss Marple to sort out this whole saga
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 292 | June 5, 2018 7:26 PM |
The Thorpe documentary was fascinating. Really exposed the establishment.
| by Anonymous | reply 293 | June 6, 2018 8:57 PM |
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Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 296 | June 8, 2018 4:13 AM |
Ben Whishaw is a very good actor. But, if you've ever seen him being interviewed, you'd notice without a script he comes across as an inarticulate imbecile.
| by Anonymous | reply 297 | June 8, 2018 6:35 AM |
R97 That is common. Dame Maggie Smith gives only interview per decade.
| by Anonymous | reply 298 | June 8, 2018 7:05 AM |
@ R297 . Inarticulate imbecile ? Why be so mean and disrespectful ? In the interview @ R244 Ben comes across as nervous and distracted, like a man with a full bladder who is dying to get away and yet ultimately stays and gives the interviewer his due. His responses are sensitive to the interviewer's questions. His observations that go beyond the questions are interesting and articulate if you make allowances for the nervousness, the cause of which we can't know.
| by Anonymous | reply 299 | June 8, 2018 7:02 PM |
[quote]But, if you've ever seen him being interviewed, you'd notice without a script he comes across as an inarticulate imbecile.
So all actors without cut-glass RP accents who occasionally trip over their own words are inarticulate imbeciles?
Fuck off you supercilious twat.
| by Anonymous | reply 300 | June 8, 2018 9:47 PM |
His fangirls sure are aggressive.
| by Anonymous | reply 301 | June 8, 2018 9:57 PM |
So Hugh Grant is NOT wearing facial prosthetics?
He just looks lumpy and melting due to old age?
| by Anonymous | reply 302 | June 8, 2018 9:59 PM |
he lost a ton of weight for the part.
| by Anonymous | reply 303 | June 8, 2018 9:59 PM |
[quote]His fangirls sure are aggressive.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 304 | June 8, 2018 11:27 PM |
Boy, this thread has been going steadily for over a month. I've followed it all the way along. I've enjoyed it.
| by Anonymous | reply 306 | June 8, 2018 11:32 PM |
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Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 307 | June 10, 2018 2:19 AM |
Who else did Thorpe kill?
| by Anonymous | reply 308 | June 10, 2018 9:39 PM |
It's premiering in America soon - so far the reviews from American critics are very positive
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 309 | June 24, 2018 5:36 PM |
[quote]It's premiering in America soon
exciting
| by Anonymous | reply 310 | June 24, 2018 5:38 PM |
[quote]“A Very English Scandal” begins streaming this week on AmazonPrime.
Shame it couldn't be on HBO or something like that.
| by Anonymous | reply 312 | June 24, 2018 9:29 PM |
R302 Even without prosthetics, a good makeup artist can also do things to accentuate a look they're going for.
| by Anonymous | reply 313 | June 24, 2018 10:11 PM |
The Hollywood Reporter gave it a good review
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 316 | June 25, 2018 5:12 PM |
He gave a pretty fun interview with NPR the other day. I caught the phrase "Licking Ben Winshaw's nipples" when I turned the radio on.
| by Anonymous | reply 317 | June 25, 2018 5:15 PM |
[quote]He gave a pretty fun interview with NPR the other day. I caught the phrase "Licking Ben Winshaw's nipples" when I turned the radio on.
here it is >>
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 318 | June 25, 2018 6:33 PM |
I'd like to lick Been Whishaw's nipples!
| by Anonymous | reply 319 | June 25, 2018 8:01 PM |
^ ROFLMAO. Nice to see he has a sense of humor.
| by Anonymous | reply 321 | June 27, 2018 4:01 AM |
Promoting the US premiere on Colbert
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 322 | June 27, 2018 4:46 PM |
THE UK DVD goes on sale on Monday.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 323 | June 28, 2018 7:11 PM |
Cook's sketch is brilliant, even if you don't know the case
| by Anonymous | reply 325 | June 28, 2018 7:23 PM |
Hugh's doing the rounds in the USA.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 326 | June 28, 2018 7:23 PM |
I enjoyed it quite a bit. Davies' script was tight and witty, and the performances and casting, especially of the supporting roles, was excellent. Whisaw is a mixed bag for me usually, but I think he handled a simpleton with a complex character quite well. Grant was reserved, and none of his normal "golly, gee,whiz I'm charming" persona.
Definitely an entertaining few hours.
| by Anonymous | reply 327 | June 29, 2018 6:21 PM |
[quote]Whisaw is a mixed bag for me usually, but I think he handled a simpleton with a complex character quite well.
Notable that Davies' fine script was quite even-handed about moderate positives in the protagonists.
He perhaps though overstated a bit after Scott had done quite well up against Thorpe's lawyer Carman QC in The High Court. Next scene was Carman - for the only time really angry and flustered - saying to Thorpe in an ante-room, 'Why didn't you tell me he was so fucking clever?!'
To me Scott was a blend of naive, faux-naive, and cunning, really well-caught by Whishaw. But, 'so fucking clever' was I thought a judicious concession to the fact that Scott is still with us.
| by Anonymous | reply 328 | June 29, 2018 6:51 PM |
I thought Hugh Grant was very good in this and enjoyed Ben Whishaw mincing his way throughout.
| by Anonymous | reply 329 | June 29, 2018 7:35 PM |
There's a very positive review at rogerebert.com.
| by Anonymous | reply 330 | June 29, 2018 9:28 PM |
R73 Whishaw is a jobbing actor and I suspect his rectum smells the same as everyone else's.
| by Anonymous | reply 331 | June 29, 2018 11:28 PM |
I had to look up 'jobbing' and I've found various definitions. Did you mean that as an actor he's capable of doing many things well ?
| by Anonymous | reply 332 | June 30, 2018 2:16 AM |
R332 Maggie Smith and lots of English actors describe themselves as jobbing actors. It means they're happy to be employed.
| by Anonymous | reply 333 | June 30, 2018 2:23 AM |
It means they take what they can get. They work where and when they can.
| by Anonymous | reply 334 | June 30, 2018 2:30 AM |
I was impressed at how concisely Davies caught the exact nuance and attitude of the times, with the upper-class casual private acceptance of homosexuality and the little subplot of the odd advocates for decriminalization. Even the quick throwawy "I'm not shocked, my dad was in the army" said volumes in a single sentence.
| by Anonymous | reply 335 | June 30, 2018 12:32 PM |
Since R330 is too lazy to link...
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 336 | June 30, 2018 12:35 PM |
[quote]I was impressed at how concisely Davies caught the exact nuance and attitude of the times, with the upper-class casual private acceptance of homosexuality and the little subplot of the odd advocates for decriminalization.
I heart Boofy.
| by Anonymous | reply 337 | June 30, 2018 2:07 PM |
[quote]"I'm not shocked, my dad was in the army" said volumes in a single sentence.
Only now reading that do I recall it's a paraphrase of what Grant said about his father's reaction post-Divine Brown: that he hadn't been too shocked, as he'd been in the army. So yet another layer of allusion from this excellent drama. Can't wait to watch it all again.
| by Anonymous | reply 339 | July 4, 2018 8:05 PM |
Fascinating doocumentary using original footage.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 340 | July 4, 2018 9:48 PM |
Grant and Wilby also kissed when they went horsebackriding on the estate and dismounted from their horses in front of the temple/mausoleum in the ferny grove.
| by Anonymous | reply 341 | July 5, 2018 8:34 PM |
Great performance by Grant--unlike anything else he's ever done before. Weird mixture of a stiff upper lip with incredible joie de vivre.
Whishaw, unfortunately, plays the timid mouse far too often. But when Norman becomes more in control and aggressive in his outward demeanour he became more interesting.
| by Anonymous | reply 342 | July 5, 2018 8:37 PM |
Just started watching this. I was about halfway through the book before I realized there was a mini-series on Amazon Prime. I thought I'd finish the book first but when I realized the series was directed by Frears and that Hugh gives Ben a hand job I caved. I'm only on the first episode but I love it. Ben Wishaw is great!
| by Anonymous | reply 343 | August 2, 2018 5:19 PM |
Thanks R340. Watching that doc, I'm very impressed by how perfectly Ben Wishaw nailed Norman's vocal cadences.
Watched the first two episodes, then it fell off my radar for a bit. I'll have to finish it now.
| by Anonymous | reply 344 | August 2, 2018 5:47 PM |
R344, the third episode is great
| by Anonymous | reply 345 | August 3, 2018 2:13 AM |
I finished all three just now. Really good. Whishaw should get an Emmy. What I like about Stephen Frears is he gets the details right. Makes it a pleasure to watch his work.
| by Anonymous | reply 346 | August 3, 2018 2:18 AM |
R346, this was very good but Victoria and Abdul wasn’t.
| by Anonymous | reply 347 | August 3, 2018 2:23 AM |
Alex Jennings was very good, also
| by Anonymous | reply 348 | August 3, 2018 3:40 AM |
A Very English Scandal: Masterclass with Hugh Grant | Edinburgh TV Festival 2018 ( August 24)
[quote] The award-winning team from the acclaimed series A Very English Scandal – actor, Hugh Grant; writer, Russell T Davies; director, Stephen Frears; producer, Dan Winch and executive producer, Dominic Treadwell-Collins, join an exclusive masterclass at the Edinburgh TV Festival, chaired by writer, presenter and broadcaster, Sue Perkins. Adapted from John Preston’s novel, A Very English Scandal is the shocking true story of Jeremy Thorpe, the former Liberal Party leader who stood trial for conspiracy to murder his secret ex-lover Norman Scott. The three-part drama starring Hugh Grant and Ben Whishaw debuted on BBC One to widespread critical acclaim, recently heading to American audiences on Amazon Prime US. This exciting masterclass will delve into the sensational adaptation, giving a behind-the-scenes look at the creative process and challenges involved in bringing this sensitive true-life story to the screen. Hugh Grant will also talk about his first appearance in a television programme in over a decade and discuss what drew him to this iconic role.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 349 | September 1, 2018 6:29 AM |
The masterclass is on youtube:
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 351 | September 18, 2018 5:13 AM |
hugh is both a tranny and a queer worshiper?
| by Anonymous | reply 352 | September 18, 2018 5:43 AM |
R352 should be plonked onto /ignore, never to be heard from again.
| by Anonymous | reply 353 | September 18, 2018 12:49 PM |
Loved it! Both Hugh and Ben were perfect!
| by Anonymous | reply 354 | September 18, 2018 1:14 PM |
Hugh and Ben were both nominated for Golden Globes
| by Anonymous | reply 355 | December 6, 2018 5:29 PM |
For the show we're talking about in this thread, dummy
| by Anonymous | reply 357 | December 6, 2018 6:13 PM |
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Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 358 | December 6, 2018 9:51 PM |
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Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 359 | December 6, 2018 9:52 PM |
I found Whishaw too studiedly gormless. It was a sophisticated urbane man playing a nelly country bumpkin.
| by Anonymous | reply 360 | August 27, 2019 3:27 PM |
Regarding Norman's wife and girlfriend, is he bisexual or just self-loathing? I've watched two of the three episodes on Prime Video, and it threw me off in the second episode that he's suddenly marrying a woman, then later having a relationship with another woman and apparently enjoying the sex.
| by Anonymous | reply 361 | February 19, 2021 7:37 PM |
