Barbie is tonight at 7PM and Oppenheimer is tomorrow at 9 PM.
| by Anonymous | reply 31 | July 24, 2023 7:30 AM |
I don't really get this; they had a limited viewing with all the attendees raving about the movies like they're the best thing ever, yet they're holding official reviews until the last minute. Unless you're postponing bad news in the hopes of having a big opening weekend, I don't see how creating buzz with the credible (not social) media is a bad thing.
| by Anonymous | reply 1 | July 18, 2023 12:42 PM |
They want to create tension.
| by Anonymous | reply 2 | July 18, 2023 1:10 PM |
On writer-director Paul Schrader’s Facebook page, he says he is no Nolan groupie but he calls OPPENHEIMER “The best, most important film of this century . . . this one blows the doors off the hinges.”
I saw the BARBIE trailer last week when I went to see MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE — DEAD RECKONING (terrific, by the way) and BARBIE looked like a disaster, a campy mess on the order of XANADU or CAN’T STOP THE MUSIC.
I’m sure the big “B” will lure little girls, ‘tweens, young women and gay men opening week, but I can’t imagine good box office beyond a week or two. Of course I’m sure OPPENHEIMER cost much, much more, but it looks like it might make it back and then some, and get a packet of Oscar nominations to boot. Every straight man in America is dying to see it and we know what that did for TOP GUN.
So it’s really no box office contest, is it?
| by Anonymous | reply 3 | July 18, 2023 2:36 PM |
Oppenheimer has the potential to be the “big serious film” that used to come along every ten years or so and becomes a top 10 hit.
I would put Lawrence of Arabia (62), 2001: A Space Odyssey (68), Apocalypse Now (79), Platoon (86), Saving Private Ryan (98) and American Sniper (14) in this category.
All but Space Odyssey were about historical wars like Oppenheimer. All the war films except American Sniper had huge casts of male actors like Oppenheimer. They also tended to be released at times of great national unease like we have now.
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | July 18, 2023 3:20 PM |
Why does every straight man in America dying to see O?
To watch the Japs get slaughtered?
I don't get why straight men would especially want to see this.
| by Anonymous | reply 5 | July 18, 2023 3:22 PM |
Paul Schrader is calling Oppenheimer "the best, most important film of this century."
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 6 | July 18, 2023 3:25 PM |
R5, Can you say "extended fully nude sex scenes" with Florence Pugh?
I thought you could.
And yet, you wonder.
| by Anonymous | reply 7 | July 18, 2023 3:26 PM |
Barbie is going to be a smash. Look at that dumb Super Mario Bros movie. Biggest hit of the year so far and it was terrible but based on something millions have loved for several generations. Same deal for Barbie. I know women in their late 40’s super excited for it. Plus, the marketing blitz has been bigger than anything I’ve seen in at least a decade.
| by Anonymous | reply 8 | July 18, 2023 3:27 PM |
I think Oppenheimer is going to pull an upset and beat Barbie for the number one spot.
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | July 18, 2023 3:29 PM |
But Super Mario Bros was a hit because it gave the audience (families) exactly what they wanted to see
To return to a question i have about Barbie, who is this film for? Is it for families? Is it for adults? I still don’t know.
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | July 18, 2023 3:32 PM |
FYI
Lawrence of Arabia = nuclear missile crisis
2001 A Space Odyssey = 1968 protests/Vietnam
Apocalypse Now = oil crisis
Platoon = Iran-Contra/Savings and Loan crisis
Saving Private Ryan = Clinton Impeachment
Overriding theme: National pessimism, distrust of leadership/institutions, cynicism of government to fix problems
Sounds a lot like today
| by Anonymous | reply 11 | July 18, 2023 3:46 PM |
There are a ton of showtimes for Barbie on Thursday night. Barbie's gotta make all the money it can before negative word of mouth on Twitter spreads.
| by Anonymous | reply 12 | July 18, 2023 3:50 PM |
I'm over Nolan. He always comes across as a complete pompous wanker, and he takes his movies too seriously. Maybe I'll watch Oppenheimer if it's on streaming in a year or so.
| by Anonymous | reply 14 | July 18, 2023 3:55 PM |
Current tracking shows Barbie possibly making $115 million and Oppenheimer making $50 to $60 million.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 15 | July 18, 2023 4:02 PM |
It feels like a manufactured PR scenario.
Ooooh! Barbie and Oppenheimer premier at the same time in theaters! All you people who haven't been inside a theater for years–which one will you go see??
| by Anonymous | reply 16 | July 18, 2023 4:07 PM |
Go to Google and search for Barbie.
It's very pretty. I've never seen Google do something like that for any other film that I can remember.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 17 | July 18, 2023 4:19 PM |
Come on, Barbie! Let's go, Barbie!
(So, the film is about the evil Democrats nuking the Japanese?)
| by Anonymous | reply 18 | July 18, 2023 5:30 PM |
I swear, the persecution complexes/ black and white thinking of white liberal Democrats is almost as bad as it is for the Deploreables.
| by Anonymous | reply 19 | July 18, 2023 5:55 PM |
"Both Sides!" Trash at r19.
| by Anonymous | reply 20 | July 18, 2023 6:00 PM |
R20 = wears a pronoun badge and flies the Progress Pride Flag, but is scared of his own shit because it’s darker than Halle Berry
| by Anonymous | reply 21 | July 18, 2023 6:20 PM |
A lot of guys who want to see OPPENHEIMER are going to want to see it on an IMAX screen, and there aren’t a thousand of those. I’m betting that overall it is on fewer screens than BARBIE. So she might take the weekend, but once the word of mouth is out . . .
| by Anonymous | reply 22 | July 18, 2023 7:16 PM |
Stephanie Zacharek of Time magazine gives Barbie a thumbs down.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 23 | July 19, 2023 12:45 AM |
Barbie has a 86% score on Rotten Tomatoes with 76 Reviews
| by Anonymous | reply 24 | July 19, 2023 1:10 AM |
Not since "Can't Get You Out of My Head" vs. "Not Such an Innocent Girl" has a chart battle been so epic...
| by Anonymous | reply 26 | July 23, 2023 2:29 PM |
That's interesting R24. Thanks for posting. I checked and it's now at 90% with 302 critic reviews. That's very good.
Critics Consensus 90% Audience 90%
"Barbie is a visually dazzling comedy whose meta humor is smartly complemented by subversive storytelling".
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 27 | July 23, 2023 2:35 PM |
To be fair to Oppenheimer, its material is pretty hard going. If it slays the critics and gets a healthy box office, surely that's the ground it's meant to be on? Nobody is going to see that to have a good time.
Whereas Barbie sets out to be a box office smash, at least with every straight woman in the world and the guys they force to take them there, who will probably enjoy it too.
Biggest at the box office has never = the best. At least, not since Gone With the Wind was new.
| by Anonymous | reply 29 | July 23, 2023 3:06 PM |
Why the competitiveness? Both are killing it at the box office, this is one of the biggest summer weekends for movies in a very long time. The cross-promotion that went on in the run up boosted marketing for both films. Barbie will likely make more money, but Nolan will clean up come awards time. It's win-win, all boats rise in the harbor.
Anything that gets people out of the house and into theaters, after the doldrums of the pandemic, is a thing to celebrate.
| by Anonymous | reply 30 | July 23, 2023 3:21 PM |
R30, Word for word, spot on, particularly the "Awards vs. Box Office." It's what the Summer of '22 should have resulted in.
R23, The TIME reviewer said "Barbie" was "not very deep"? And without a "SPOILER" tag?! 🤪
| by Anonymous | reply 31 | July 24, 2023 7:30 AM |
