I am going to a conference in Munich next summer and would like to spend some extra vacation time in Bavaria. Any recommendations for anything particularly worth visiting? I'm not interested in seeing the Neuschwanstein because I hear it's hard to see, but I'd be interested in seeing any other of Ludwig II's palaces if they're easier to visit.
I love museums and beautiful old architecture.
| by Anonymous | reply 95 | July 17, 2021 12:00 PM |
I enjoyed the biergartens especially the one with the river running thru it where people surf. We spent 8 days in Munich then rented a car to see the black forest and walled cities. You will be very close to Austria as well. We watch some Rick Steve's videos to decide what towns to explore. Have fun.
| by Anonymous | reply 2 | July 14, 2021 7:07 PM |
Lots of enormous schwanzstucker
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 4 | July 14, 2021 7:16 PM |
Neuschwanstein is not difficult to see. Many of the coach tours will take you to Neuschwanstein, Linderhoff, and Oberammergau. However, since you are there for the rescheduled Oberammergau Passion Play, you really ought to go. It is performed every ten years (11 due to covid in 2021).
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 6 | July 14, 2021 7:19 PM |
You can get to Salburg on the train!
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | July 14, 2021 7:27 PM |
I came to Bavaria for the bratwurst, but I stayed for the far right propaganda.
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | July 14, 2021 7:29 PM |
München is a lovely town
| by Anonymous | reply 11 | July 14, 2021 7:32 PM |
Avoid Rothenburg ob der Tauber. It really is a Disney fake town that exists to separate American tourists from their money (the church does have a lovely carved carved alter screen by Tilman Riemenschneider .)
I feel the same about Regensburg. The much touted Medieval streets are lined with Medieval buildings covered in 1950s stucco. Occasionally, a detail has been left uncovered, but for the most part, there isn't much left to see. The museum does have an excellent exhibit of when the town was a Roman fort. They have a wonderfully funky opera company if you enjoy opera.
Bamberg was always one of our favorite towns. It was briefly the center of the Holy Roman Empire. Emperor Henry II was also buried in the old town, alongside his wife Kunigunde. Unfortunately the lovely restaurant, which was in an old mill in the center of the river, is now a wirsthaus.
Augsburg is the third oldest city in Germany and mostly overlooked by Americans. It is worth a visit.
As at least one other person has mentioned, it is easy to get to Salzburg.
| by Anonymous | reply 12 | July 14, 2021 7:41 PM |
R12 what the hell is a wirsthaus?
A Wursthaus ( = "sausage house" with "sausage" meaning dick, cock = a bar for gays)?
Or do you mean a Wirtshaus?
| by Anonymous | reply 14 | July 14, 2021 9:18 PM |
Agree with r12 and also highly recommend the town of Bamberg, unesco protected site since 1993. Beautiful architecture and great beer gardens.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 18 | July 14, 2021 9:38 PM |
[quote] Go to Austria instead.
What part of the fact that the conference is to be held in Munich did you not understand?
| by Anonymous | reply 19 | July 14, 2021 9:40 PM |
R19, Salzburg it 1.5 hours away by train. Bamberg is nearly 2 hours away. Just because it is in a different country, doesn't mean that it is a long of difficult journey.
| by Anonymous | reply 20 | July 14, 2021 9:46 PM |
R19 is obviously well travelled and familiar with Europe, so the need for humility is non existent.
| by Anonymous | reply 21 | July 14, 2021 9:49 PM |
What are you crazy? Don't miss Neuschwanstein.
| by Anonymous | reply 22 | July 14, 2021 10:11 PM |
Neuschwanstein is an easy train ride and short bus ride from München. It’s better than the museums in Münich, frankly.
I’d catch a train to Salzburg or Innsbruck with my extra day(s) if you haven’t been there before. Both easy train rides.
| by Anonymous | reply 23 | July 14, 2021 10:14 PM |
Linderhof Palace Is also very nice.
| by Anonymous | reply 24 | July 14, 2021 10:21 PM |
Rent a bike and go along the Isar. It’s amazing.
| by Anonymous | reply 27 | July 14, 2021 10:51 PM |
No comments for 12 hours? No response from the OP?
| by Anonymous | reply 29 | July 15, 2021 11:01 AM |
Maybe OP is sleeping right now? ;-)
| by Anonymous | reply 30 | July 15, 2021 11:19 AM |
Please give GGG a quick pity fuck so that he stops annoying us here!
| by Anonymous | reply 31 | July 15, 2021 11:29 AM |
[quote] What to see in Bavaria?
Ludwig Heinrich (Louis Henry) Prince of Bavaria
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 32 | July 15, 2021 11:36 AM |
[quote] Stuttgart
Stuttgart is the capital city of Baden-Württemberg, the "state" aka Bundesland next to Bavaria. Not exactly the first thing that comes to mind for places to visit IN Bavaria.
| by Anonymous | reply 33 | July 15, 2021 11:37 AM |
R33, I was waiting for someone else to mention that. Thank you.
| by Anonymous | reply 34 | July 15, 2021 11:42 AM |
I can't believe how quickly this thread died. If it had been a GGG thread, it would be at 500+ posts by now.
| by Anonymous | reply 35 | July 15, 2021 8:56 PM |
This is an American board.
| by Anonymous | reply 36 | July 15, 2021 9:11 PM |
R36, that doesn't reflect well on Americans.
| by Anonymous | reply 37 | July 16, 2021 11:00 AM |
If you take a tour guide, the small cities are well worth a visit too, like Bayreuth and Ansbach. Munich is pretty unique. It's not like the rest of Bavaria, in positive and nevative respects. If you like culture, go to one of the opera houses in Munich (Staatsoper or Prinzregententheater), and visit the Stuck Villa for example.
| by Anonymous | reply 38 | July 16, 2021 11:46 AM |
I loved Munich but I gotta warn you girls, the food is carb heavy. Delicious, but unsettling for most of you.
| by Anonymous | reply 39 | July 16, 2021 4:29 PM |
Yes, those are potato dumplings in a gravy.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 40 | July 16, 2021 4:31 PM |
Thanks for the good advice, everyone. Bamberg sounds like a place I should certainly visit, and I will re-think visiting the Neuschwanstein based on your advice.
| by Anonymous | reply 41 | July 16, 2021 4:34 PM |
R1 Part of my family is from Bavaria. One of our aunts still lived there. To get under her skin we mentioned we were coming to the Fatherland and would make a trip to Dachau. She sure as hell didn't like that at all.
| by Anonymous | reply 42 | July 16, 2021 4:37 PM |
Neuschwanstein... I hate to say to anybody don't visit it but there isn't much to see. It's a mostly empty castle. The setting is magnificent but I feel like you get a better sense of it looking at pictures. We saw it and Salzburg in the same day as memory serves and in retrospect I would have rather had more time in Salzburg.
| by Anonymous | reply 43 | July 16, 2021 4:37 PM |
I've never understood the allure of Neuschwanstein. It's not like it's some ancient castle. It was started in 1869 as a nutty prince's fantasy of what a castle should look like. It's newer than parts of my own house.
| by Anonymous | reply 44 | July 16, 2021 4:46 PM |
If you’re into cars BMW world and the factory tour are great. Easily reachable by Munich public transport.
| by Anonymous | reply 45 | July 16, 2021 4:52 PM |
Yeah, not much to see. (see link). There are several package coach tours available that will take you to several of Ludwig's castles in one day. You need to see Neuschwanstein and Linderhoff. Anything else is a bonus. Don't attempt to do it on your own (particularly if you are not fluent in German.)
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 46 | July 16, 2021 4:53 PM |
I don’t get the hate for neuschwanstein, I found it nice. Also on a nice warm day you can take a pedalo out on the lake and view the castles in the hills from the water.
| by Anonymous | reply 47 | July 16, 2021 5:02 PM |
Crowded, always. Only fourteen of 220 rooms were actually finished and few are furnished. You can't take pictures inside. You can't get in without taking the guided tour which lasts about fifteen minutes. You will probably spend more time waiting for entry. Given the remoteness and time it takes to get out there there can be better uses of time.
| by Anonymous | reply 48 | July 16, 2021 5:07 PM |
Sorry, the tour is 30 minutes, the entry is around fifteen euros.
| by Anonymous | reply 49 | July 16, 2021 5:07 PM |
Munich is one of my favorite cities. Go to the art museums, the Wittelsbach Residence, the Theatine Church, Der Alte Peter, the parks, the WWI memorial in front of the state parliament building., and The Deutsches Museum.
Do not miss the Viktualienmarkt, when you are feeling peckish!
The Englischer Garten for its nude parts.
Skip the Oktoberfest park, unless you are going to Oktoberfest.
Go to Dallmayr Delikatessenhaus
If you want a Boiled Wool Jacket, go to Lodenfrey!
| by Anonymous | reply 50 | July 16, 2021 5:24 PM |
If you do go to Neuschwanstein, get the ticket for both castles (Hohenschwangau). The older one has a lot more to see inside, but the newer one is far more spectacular from the outside. Take the time to go up to Marienbrücke, too. The scenery is gorgeous - especially in the autumn.
(I agree - it’s a super easy day trip from Munich).
| by Anonymous | reply 51 | July 16, 2021 5:31 PM |
How hot are the Bavarian men?
| by Anonymous | reply 52 | July 16, 2021 5:45 PM |
Münich has a great bordelo with edging.
| by Anonymous | reply 53 | July 16, 2021 5:47 PM |
I could be your main attraction, OP!
| by Anonymous | reply 54 | July 16, 2021 6:45 PM |
People are naked in the city parks. Many of them are hotties.
| by Anonymous | reply 55 | July 16, 2021 6:51 PM |
Neuschwanstein Is Disneyland.
| by Anonymous | reply 56 | July 16, 2021 6:53 PM |
In Bavaria you don't say Klöße but Knödel.
Get prepared for a smack in the face if you say Klöße in Bavaria (and Austria).
| by Anonymous | reply 57 | July 16, 2021 7:12 PM |
Went to Neuschwanstein in high school - it was an eye-opener to get a Teutonic prick tour guide who made fun of us the whole time (stupid foreigners would never guess at how advanced the building was, etc).
| by Anonymous | reply 58 | July 16, 2021 7:22 PM |
The Great Wall of Bavaria is amazing. I can't even imagine how the Bavarians built that wall so long ago, but it sure did keep out the Dutch.
| by Anonymous | reply 59 | July 16, 2021 7:24 PM |
[quote] Get prepared for a smack in the face if you say Klöße in Bavaria (and Austria).
WE should have just exterminated all Germans after we won the war. Nasty, violent people.
| by Anonymous | reply 60 | July 16, 2021 7:33 PM |
R55 you live in 1975. The only naked people in the Englische Garten have been there since 1975.
| by Anonymous | reply 61 | July 16, 2021 7:36 PM |
Munich has great Brazilian and Colombian escorts because it’s legal there and people have money. But they are not too expensive because there is competition. Treat yourself to one ore two (or five).
| by Anonymous | reply 62 | July 16, 2021 7:38 PM |
If you want to see naked people there are plenty of Baggersees (quarry ponds) around Bavaria. Plus gay cruising spots and venues like bath houses and such.
| by Anonymous | reply 63 | July 16, 2021 7:41 PM |
It was 1985, actually. No more?
| by Anonymous | reply 64 | July 16, 2021 7:48 PM |
Bavaria is the Alabama of Germany.
| by Anonymous | reply 66 | July 16, 2021 8:06 PM |
[quote] How hot are the Bavarian men?
If you like your men to be no-nonsense and direct with you, go for them. To be honest, looks-wise, they're no hotter than any guy you'd find in a mid-western US state or anywhere in the US generally, except they're uncut.
I found the men in the Czech Republic, northern Italy and Hungary hotter. They were slimmer and their trousers tended to be tighter, showing off some nice, pert bubble butts and ample packages.
Neuschwanstein is an experience, but go to Nymphenburg Palace instead. It's a lovely 18th century palace that is still used as a residence of the Wittelsbach.
Don't forget Dachau. It's mind blowing that you get off a bus in a suburban section, walk around the corner and you're confronted with a concentration camp..
Try Weiss beer and Weisswurst. Blutwurst, if you're adventuresome
Franconian wine is very good
| by Anonymous | reply 67 | July 16, 2021 8:18 PM |
Lederhosen don't really show off a guy's butt, do they? I haven't ever seen one that did.
| by Anonymous | reply 68 | July 16, 2021 8:31 PM |
Nymphenburg palace was also used for filming “last year at Marienbad”
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 69 | July 16, 2021 8:37 PM |
The last thing I would ever want to do on a European vacation is visit a concentration camp.
I go on vacation to have a good time.
| by Anonymous | reply 70 | July 16, 2021 8:58 PM |
Linderhof is much more interesting than Neuschwanstein. King Ludwig really spent time there. You also can take the S Bahn S 6 to Starnberg and spend a nice day on Lake Starnberg. May be you take the Dampfer for a nice round-trip on the lake.
| by Anonymous | reply 71 | July 16, 2021 9:44 PM |
Do not miss Bavaria DisneyWelt. It's just like being at Disneyworld in Florida... except there aren't any Mexicans. My hubby and I are planning to go back just to do DisneyWelt again.
| by Anonymous | reply 72 | July 16, 2021 9:47 PM |
No to Blutwurst. It's literally "blood sausage." My German BF says he wouldn't even feed it to the dogs.
| by Anonymous | reply 73 | July 16, 2021 9:47 PM |
Munich's my favorite German city and Neuschwanstein is definitely worth a visit.
| by Anonymous | reply 74 | July 16, 2021 9:49 PM |
He's a great-grandson of King Ludwig II, the crazy gay bloke who had Neuschwanstein and other castles in Bavaria built.
I'd love to do a bit of sizemeat verificatia on him.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 75 | July 16, 2021 9:51 PM |
According to German Wikipedia, he's the great-great-grandson of Ludwig III, the last king of Bavaria.
Ludwig II was engaged to Sophie, a sister of Empress Elisabeth ("Sissi") of Austria, for a while, but the marriage never materialised as Ludwig delayed the wedding and eventually called off the engagement.
Anyway, Prinz Ludwig looks a fucking lot like the Kini (the Bavarian term for Ludwig II) so there must be some genetic correlation, some common ancestor.
| by Anonymous | reply 76 | July 16, 2021 10:21 PM |
Sexy Prinz Ludwig's great-great-grandfather was a first cousin of the Kini.
| by Anonymous | reply 77 | July 16, 2021 10:25 PM |
Blutwurst with sauerkraut and boiled potatoes can actually be quite delicious. Anthony Bourdain, R.I.P., wouldn't say NO to that and at least give it a try. Only then you know what it really tastes like for yourself.
| by Anonymous | reply 78 | July 16, 2021 10:38 PM |
[quote] Blutwurst with sauerkraut and boiled potatoes can actually be quite delicious. Anthony Bourdain, R.I.P., wouldn't say NO to that and at least give it a try. Only then you know what it really tastes like for yourself.
Anthony Bourdain is DEAD.
And Maggie the Cat is alive... [italic]alive![/italic]
And there is no fucking way on God's green fucking Earth she's ever going to eat fucking Blutwurst with fucking sauerkraut and boiled potatoes.
Sister-Woman and the no-neck monsters can wolf them down instead.
| by Anonymous | reply 79 | July 16, 2021 10:47 PM |
German cuisine is an oxymoron.
| by Anonymous | reply 80 | July 16, 2021 10:48 PM |
Sorry R55, the naked people in the English Garden are largely gone or aged. But Munich is still full off hotties in pink or green Bermuda pants.
| by Anonymous | reply 81 | July 16, 2021 11:03 PM |
Let Max be your guide to his hometown of Munich.
It took a while, but I did start to enjoy his YouTube channel on traveling across Europe.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 82 | July 16, 2021 11:13 PM |
Congrats to R32 - he managed to find the only pic of Prince Ludwig where he looks semi presentable. Unfortunately he looks like a bug-eyed freak with hideous facial bone structure in reality:
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 83 | July 16, 2021 11:13 PM |
The Sierra PC Game Gabriel Knight: The Beast Within features a segment of a guided tour of Neuschwanstein.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 84 | July 16, 2021 11:16 PM |
If you like meat, the old fashioned Bavarian meals are delicious. Pork nuckles, Schweinsbraten, Weißwurst if fresh cooked are worth a try. There are good restaurants, sometimes called Landgasthaus on the countryside. Just have a look at the well known sites like tripadvisor or ask the locals for recommendations. If you are not into local food, even in the countryside there are really good Italian restaurants worth a visit or just restaurants cooking a more modern style. And if you don't want to try it, there is always a McDonald's not far.
| by Anonymous | reply 85 | July 16, 2021 11:21 PM |
Make sure you visit the Neue Pinaothek. It's open on Monday morning (as opposed to most museums) and you will be practically alone in front of amazing art. And visit that fabulous paper store Carta Pura nearby on Schellingstrasse. And have a noodle soup in the Schelling Salon.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 86 | July 16, 2021 11:23 PM |
[quote]Try Weiss beer and Weisswurst.
Ah, Weiss beer. Mit Semmelknodel und einem Schuss Habsburger hauteur reicht es, um den englischen Akzent, den ich gelernt habe, vergessen zu lassen.
| by Anonymous | reply 87 | July 17, 2021 12:26 AM |
Oida, ös Batzis, hoits ollemitanaund de Pappn.
Ozapft is'!
Und waun ned, daun krocht's, es Saupreissn!
| by Anonymous | reply 88 | July 17, 2021 12:33 AM |
When in Bamberg, try the smoked beer ( Rauchbier) and a Bamberg onion.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 89 | July 17, 2021 12:33 AM |
R12 is wrong, it's not a "fake town" but yes there are many tourists
| by Anonymous | reply 90 | July 17, 2021 1:26 AM |
Bavarian men are goodlooking. It is impossible to make a distinction between close European neighbours and claim that Hungarians or Czech are better looking. Ridiculous!
| by Anonymous | reply 91 | July 17, 2021 8:19 AM |
R90, 40% of Rothenburg was destroyed during the war, including 30% of the old town. It was rebuilt specifically with an eye to attract American tourists and the two American military bases in nearby Ansbach.
| by Anonymous | reply 92 | July 17, 2021 10:51 AM |
It is still worth seeing, r92.
| by Anonymous | reply 93 | July 17, 2021 11:35 AM |
R93, not in summer when it is full of Viking Riverboat Cruise tourists whining that they can't get peanut butter, and have to pay for rolls and toilets. Better to spend two days seeing all of Ludwig's castles, or take a side trip to Bamberg, Salzburg or Augsburg. Rothenburg is a 3 hour train ride. Nürnberg is only an hour.
Nürnberg is a great place to visit. It sounds as if the Op would enjoy the Dürer House. The tour of the beer tunnels is great. There is also a tunnel tour regarding the Nazi art. The museums are wonderful.
| by Anonymous | reply 94 | July 17, 2021 11:48 AM |
R83 he has aged well.
He did look a bit like a dork when he was younger. The pic you've posted was taken when he was 24, 25.
| by Anonymous | reply 95 | July 17, 2021 12:00 PM |
