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Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 32 | June 28, 2022 10:34 PM |
Oregon decriminalized drugs for personal use.
| by Anonymous | reply 1 | June 20, 2022 7:50 PM |
Addiction is a terrible thing, OP. I don't consider you a right wing troll. Are you one?
I found the "Pit bull kills small dog at restaurant" equally disturbing (can't link). I wish pit bulls would just lie on the sidewalk, strung out. Then we could scoop them up and throw them in the trash where they belong.
| by Anonymous | reply 2 | June 20, 2022 7:58 PM |
[quote] this is seriously disturbing that people are OK with this type of drug use out in public
Honey, are you posting from the year 1987? Welcome to Portland.
| by Anonymous | reply 3 | June 20, 2022 7:59 PM |
[quote] Oregon decriminalized drugs for personal use.
That's not true. We decriminalized marijuana, but so have many other states. And we've not decriminalized anything else.
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | June 20, 2022 8:00 PM |
R4, Oregon decriminalized ALL drugs last year.
[quote]Police in Oregon can no longer arrest someone for possession of small amounts of heroin, methamphetamine, LSD, oxycodone and other drugs...
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 5 | June 20, 2022 8:12 PM |
it's like the government wants these people to kill themselves in public view
| by Anonymous | reply 7 | June 20, 2022 8:25 PM |
Portland resident here, and as much as I loathe agreeing with certain news outlets, the city has become a shithole in many respects, yet rents and housing prices continue to rise. Sadly it seems we've all just accepted that it's ok for people to live in these types of conditions.
The Rose Festival parade was held a few weeks ago had a different and shortened route, not going through downtown for the first time since 1948. The reasons given were that there are about 200 fewer police officers than 2019, the last time the parade was held. My guess is that the stigma downtown still has due to the protests/riots and that many people feel unsafe going downtown played a part in the decision. The Starlight Parade which is held at night and is more free-wheeling and carefree than the Rose Parade did go through downtown this year.
| by Anonymous | reply 8 | June 20, 2022 10:48 PM |
What the hell is going on in *every city across North America*?
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | June 20, 2022 10:52 PM |
OP must live in the flyoverland. You can find areas with people openly doing drugs in every city in America.
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | June 20, 2022 10:54 PM |
Sadly I think the pods will backfire, allowing prostitution, sexual abuse,, overdoses and conditions “out of sight” to get much much worse.
| by Anonymous | reply 12 | June 20, 2022 11:09 PM |
Stupid. Japan’s homeless population is super low, why don’t they adopt Japanese policies that decrease the homeless populations? That would mean having strict drug laws.
Look at Portugal. They decriminalized drugs and the success was there’s been a decrease in crime (cause drug possession charges are out the window) and it’s remained stagnant but HIV infections have increased. So that’s not good. And if I’m not mistaken, in Portugal, you’re recent to a drug treatment program, they don’t just like you shoot heroin until you’re dead.
| by Anonymous | reply 13 | June 20, 2022 11:31 PM |
I don't know what the solution to homeless is, but that doesn't seem like it
| by Anonymous | reply 14 | June 20, 2022 11:38 PM |
And here comes 2024…gonna be ugly.
| by Anonymous | reply 15 | June 20, 2022 11:45 PM |
The white liberals who demand tolerance for drug use and urban camping, are the first to move out of the areas where the drug use and urban camping take place. And they'll continue to demand tolerance, from their good neighborhoods in the suburbs!
All major cities have these problems, but Portland's really created a problem for itself, as it's promoted itself as a safe haven for druggies, layabouts, drifters, artsy poseurs, every variety of "misfit" and anti-capitalist... but neglects to tell these people that if they come, they will not find any affordable housing. So, they end up crowded ten to a studio, going from crazy to crazier because life sucks for them even if they are in a "safe haven", or they end up on the streets.
| by Anonymous | reply 16 | June 20, 2022 11:50 PM |
r9 Undemocratic, human rights violating radical socialist policies forced onto communities under the guise of "harm reduction" drug strategy. Other groups who benefit, like politicians, developers, organized crime, social services, etc. form "alliances" that force initiatives on marginalized areas (never rich suburbs) that benefit their interests.
As the elite carve out more of the middle, the far left are trying to grab onto power and secure funding that then creates a "poverty industry" that allows them status, funding and political power.
| by Anonymous | reply 17 | June 21, 2022 12:34 AM |
Fill the pods with free fentanyl
| by Anonymous | reply 18 | June 21, 2022 12:36 AM |
Good article from the LA Times about the situation in Portland.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 19 | June 21, 2022 4:08 PM |
r19 that article is completely full of shit-as usual. People are homeless in most cases b/c their behaviours make them impossible to house and be in society. That doesn't mean they deserve to be treated as sub-human, but it doesn't make their behaviour acceptable b/c they're addicts.
There is NO objective evidence that the single pillar harm reduction, i.e. "housing first" being pushed by this writer a) works, or b) doesn't harm others and violate their rights, especially children, the elderly and the disabled. All the public data used to support it is supplied, overseen and/or produced by the same activist groups, politicians and civil servants who owe their existence, jobs, funding and identity to this type of drug strategy.
What does work, and respects everyone's rights, is democratically mandated, true 4 pillar drug strategy: prevention, harm reduction (minimal), treatment (mandatory rehab or jail in some cases), & community (safety, inclusion and integration). Treatment is inpatient, secular, EBM long term-up to a year, w/facilities *outside* residential areas, preferably in rural locations (for programs like animal care, agri-programs, etc.)
Social housing is arranged thru the system as needed, but NOT "supportive housing" i.e. w/zero barrier consumption sites. Active users are separated from newly sober/non-users for housing.
| by Anonymous | reply 20 | June 27, 2022 8:20 PM |
^^^ you need to join the real world, wake up its drug users , thiefs, criminals .
| by Anonymous | reply 21 | June 27, 2022 8:26 PM |
Portland has become Mortville.
| by Anonymous | reply 22 | June 27, 2022 8:27 PM |
Japanese hotel style pods?
Or Japanese internment camp style pods?
Either way, more than creepy
| by Anonymous | reply 23 | June 27, 2022 8:28 PM |
[quote]And if I’m not mistaken, in Portugal, you’re recent to a drug treatment program, they don’t just like you shoot heroin until you’re dead.
Que?
| by Anonymous | reply 24 | June 27, 2022 10:30 PM |
Portland doesn't have a high crime rate
Fuck off trolls
Eight of the ten states with the highest homicide rates are red states. You freepers can't handle the truth
| by Anonymous | reply 25 | June 27, 2022 10:32 PM |
R25, there's a big difference between a "homicide rate", and a "crime rate".
"Crime rate" includes non-lethal assaults, thefts, property damage, and trying to burn down police stations to make some kind of political point. You know, the sort of thing that we hear about in Portland.
| by Anonymous | reply 26 | June 27, 2022 11:50 PM |
(a) OP is posting from the Daily Mail, which is pure right-wing propaganda.
(b) Yes, Portland has a serious problem at the moment with chronically homeless drug users and the city is seeing a huge increase in car theft, bike theft, and similar crime. All of that is being made worse by local governments that are refusing to accept any temporary solutions and are insisting on permanent housing as the only solution. Plus the fact that the police force is at historically low staff levels and the police we have are not that interested in doing the work.
Meanwhile the cost of housing (rents especially) is skyrocketing. People keep moving here but I would tell them not to.
| by Anonymous | reply 27 | June 28, 2022 12:04 AM |
Has Cher read the governor to filth on Twitter yet?
| by Anonymous | reply 28 | June 28, 2022 12:18 AM |
Policing anti-social behavior is considered racist and abusive. The major west coast cities have all adopted essentially libertarian attitudes toward drug usage, homelessness and petty crime. Drug usage has been decriminalized and so has drug dealing which has turned these cities into major destinations from drug users and dealer.
| by Anonymous | reply 29 | June 28, 2022 12:23 AM |
Decriminalizing drugs without appropriate support systems like mental hospitals and rehab centers, some of which will be involuntary, is a recipe for disaster, which is exactly what you're seeing here.
It's cruel.
| by Anonymous | reply 30 | June 28, 2022 3:50 AM |
R25 do you live in Portland? Portland has a lot of crime, much of which goes unreported/or nothing is done about it due to as R26 said a historically low police force and a DA who runs a revolving door for criminals. In and out of jail faster than most people shower.
There are multiple shootings perweek, catalytic converter theft up the wazoo, packages stolen from porches, multi family building breakins/parking garage thefts, assaults, etc.
Also the shit/piss covered sidewalks, wacked out drug zombies shooting up, passed out and assaulting people on the streets.
It may not be a "top 10" red state crime hellhole you mention but for a city that was once one of the most livable, it's a shitshow and there doesn't seem to be any change in the horizon.
| by Anonymous | reply 31 | June 28, 2022 4:09 AM |
R20, thank you. I was born in Portland in 1969 and have lived here most of my life. You're exactly right.
| by Anonymous | reply 32 | June 28, 2022 10:34 PM |
