The conservative op-ed website Quillette announced Monday night that controversial right-wing writer Andy Ngo is leaving his job as an editor at the site, an announcement that comes on the same day that a Portland newspaper published a story revealing that Ngo witnessed a far-right group planning violence but never reported it.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 29 | September 27, 2019 2:04 PM |
Real journalism is more or less dead. Journalism should not be advocacy of left or right. You report and expose both sides. I know complete objectivity is impossible but one sets a goal and strives for it.
| by Anonymous | reply 1 | August 27, 2019 12:35 PM |
Does he not realize that he and his family are part of the “other” that these people would gladly exterminate if they could? Or does he just not care? Or does he honestly think they view him as an equal?
| by Anonymous | reply 2 | August 27, 2019 1:03 PM |
I'm always fascinated by members of out-groups (Milo, Ben Shapiro, this idiot) who gravitate towards the racist right. Do they think they'll get a hall pass when the roundups begin?
| by Anonymous | reply 3 | August 27, 2019 1:07 PM |
People like this guy are delusional.
Like gay Catholics or the Log Cabin idiots. How can you support any group that fundamentally wants you dead?
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 27, 2019 1:37 PM |
He's some kind of adrenaline junkie and another ass wanting to ride on the fascist bandwagon. In high school, I read of an experiment done by a teacher called 'the Wave' and it was all about secret handshakes, signs, songs, meetings, etc.. Over time, he indoctrinated them further and taught that members outside the group 'were not to be trusted.' Things escalated until he finally sat them down and lectured them on the Third Reich and showed the films.
This is what we're witnessing right now, in the United States of America. I told a friend from Nepal not to move here over nine years ago, and cited the rising tensions around xenophobia and racism as provocation for organizations like the Proud Boys to emerge. The box is open. I hope everyone is ready.
| by Anonymous | reply 5 | August 27, 2019 1:49 PM |
He should be indicted for not reporting what he witnessed.
| by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 27, 2019 1:58 PM |
I think people like gay Catholics and Log Cabin Republicans and any other LGBT who believes in right wing philosophy are self haters in the extreme. They hate being gay and use their right wing beliefs to lie themselves into believing they're somehow different (aka better) than liberal queers.
| by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 27, 2019 2:01 PM |
Absolutely, R6. He should also never be allowed to call himself a journalist again.
| by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 27, 2019 2:02 PM |
I started watching an interview with him a few weeks back and had a gut reaction that there was something off, his tone, his mannerisms, indicated he could not be trusted. Still, it's very unfortunate. As r1 says, we need a journalism that strives for accuracy and truth, not to destroy the other side, which is what we have now.
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | August 27, 2019 2:09 PM |
[quote] Real journalism is more or less dead.
It's not dead, but really good, objective journalism moves slow, and as much as we claim we want it, too many of us go to cable news, which is badly distorted and suffers even more from being first and incorrect than it does from any bias.
[quote] Journalism should not be advocacy of left or right. You report and expose both sides.
The idea that there are "sides" is a bad idea for journalism. Too many stories now try to cast the narrative in terms of black and white. (I don't mean race, just one idea and its opposite.) Reporting should accurately report a number of related positions along a continuum, and the fact that it does not or tries to always look for sides has been very bad. A lot of fringe assholes that are just PR flacks for their movements have been put in front of a camera because they are the "other side" to something happening, and they've been legitimized as a result.
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | August 27, 2019 2:11 PM |
Andy Ngo is fat...and he wonders that he can’t find a boyfriend
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 11 | August 27, 2019 2:14 PM |
Exactly, R10. The only object of journalism is to accurately report the facts. You should know what a story is about within the first paragraph. Quotes should be accurate.
Bias comes into it, inevitably, by what the journalist chooses to focus on, the words he chooses. A good editor will strive to present the facts without bias. The whole idea of any presentation of any event is to allow the readers/viewers/listeners to draw their own conclusions based on accurately reported informaiton that presents ALL sides of an issue.
| by Anonymous | reply 12 | August 27, 2019 2:32 PM |
I just watched the video and I couldn't find the bit where they're planning violence. Can someone link to the specific quotes? Can't watch those assholes again but want to tweet it out.
| by Anonymous | reply 13 | August 27, 2019 2:38 PM |
Thanks, R14. Also linking the twitter thread referenced in that article.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 15 | August 27, 2019 3:39 PM |
r1, this is because of the rise of for-profit cable news
| by Anonymous | reply 16 | August 27, 2019 3:41 PM |
I would love to hear Jake Tapper's thoughts on this. He defended Ngo after the concrete milkshake fakery.
| by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 27, 2019 5:06 PM |
That's a concrete milkshake in his eye!
| by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 27, 2019 5:11 PM |
Thanks for that thread, R15. Utter insanity. I can't believe so many journalists just took him at his word after everything he's done.
| by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 27, 2019 5:55 PM |
His picture at OP after the milkshake incident looks so much like ‘Can speak to your manager’ hair that I giggle every time I see it.
| by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 27, 2019 6:37 PM |
[quote]His picture at OP after the milkshake incident looks so much like ‘Can speak to your manager’ hair that I giggle every time I see it.
Or like Chrys Tran at a bukkake slam poetry session.
| by Anonymous | reply 22 | August 28, 2019 2:09 AM |
In that Portland thread weeks ago, I said this Nazi asshole got what he deserved and concern trolls here attacked me. You fools fall for every single alt-right scheme every single time.
| by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 28, 2019 2:24 AM |
[quote] You fools fall for every single alt-right scheme every single time.
There are more than enough alt-right trolls here, starting or spamming certain threads.
| by Anonymous | reply 25 | August 28, 2019 2:35 AM |
I think those concern trolls were alt-righties.
Some of this would be solved if people would put the racists or alt-right scumbags on ignore as soon as they saw them. Sometimes the ignore function is glitchy, of course, but it would certainly help. Someone says something homophobic, you put them on ignore, then later you don't see them acting like a Concerned Liberal With Many Concerns.
| by Anonymous | reply 26 | August 28, 2019 11:04 AM |
Did they finally realize that he's not Caucasian and the face isn't that way because of an allergic reaction to the milk?
| by Anonymous | reply 27 | August 28, 2019 1:02 PM |
Why is he trying to sound English here? Does he always sound like this?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 28 | September 27, 2019 9:18 AM |
r28 Yes, he's bizarre. He's a Seattle Asian for God's sake.
| by Anonymous | reply 29 | September 27, 2019 2:04 PM |