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Yeah, you are right, I do ned to read 2000 threads about Di and the BRF, but I have some stuff going on atm.
Just to refresh your memory, this is what I wrote.
“Charles comes off as the biggest dik in the documentary IMO. I mean he is just arrogant and entitled through and through…it eeks out of his pores. He sounds so much like Harry in the early clips with Diana —- insufferably hung up on himself and his “work.” Basically letting Di answer all the hard questions.
I don’t get all the hatred towards Diana. Does anyone think she had any good inside of her at all? Were her charity and people on the street interactions all (in Elaine voice) Fake. Fake. Fake Fake Fake. ???
I am sincerely curious. I watched the film and felt that she genuinely enjoyed and looked forward to her work with the public.
Was she ever shy at all? Or do you all think that was an act too? At age 19 do you think she had a persona planned out? public persona to portray a la Marilyn Monroe ?
I am asking, again, sincerely because I would like to understand the dynamics of why people seem to blame Di for “everything “ ——but leave Charles and his family completely alone.”
And you wrote “ I think you need to re-read all the Diana threads on here.
I've never seen anyone say anything like what you claim they said.
No one thinks she was "planning" to become "Marilyn".
NO. NO ONE SAID THAT. INCLUDING ME. CAN YOU READ IT AGAIN. PLEASE.
No one is saying here charity was "fake". No one is saying "she had no good inside her at all." No one here even likes Charles all that much.
Many of us have been commenting on Diana books and documentaries for decades. We've been through the Saint Diana/Satan Charles period and now are wondering why her genuine mental illness, much evidenced, is never properly addressed by any of these projects. His MANY shortcomings have been addressed nonstop for decades, so no need to go over all THAT again. (REALLY? I HAVEN’T SEEN THAT. SHE ALWAYS GETS BLAMED B/C she “cheated first” which BTW, is complete bull$hit. Not once have I seen his teddy bears or separate bed mentioned. Or his paints and canvases on day 1 of their honeymoon. Or how he took off 1 hour after Ginger’s birth to play polo. OK, maybe I have read it or heard it here & there but it IMO not discussed enough. Yes his cash scandals & all the Camilla stuff has been done to death.)
It's the media who want her to be an innocent version of "Marilyn", when her story is FAR more complex than that. After 35 years of hearing the sanitised version of Diana-good and BRF-baddies, it's LONG past time for a fully rounded portrait - of ALL of them.”
(I WAS USING MARILYN ASAN EXAMPLE. NOT COMPARING THEM IN ANY WAY. MM turned her “Marilyn” persona on& off at will. That was my reason for mentioning her. My question was, do you think Diana had a “persona” she turned on & off at will ? I specifically asked if she had these possible personas all worked out at age 19.
For example —- A shy Di and a camera hungry Di?