Multiple casualties reported in shooting in Louisville, Kentucky

Americans are an angry, violent etc.

by Anonymousreply 3April 10, 2023 3:03 PM

Thoughts, prayers, now is not the time, mental health, constitution, good guy with a gun, tyranny, commie dem scum, FREEDUMB!!!!

by Anonymousreply 5April 10, 2023 3:04 PM

I feel terrible about this but now if there's less than 5 victims I react to it like it's a story about a shoplifter.

by Anonymousreply 6April 10, 2023 3:05 PM

Sorry I’m worn out. 😑

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by Anonymousreply 7April 10, 2023 3:06 PM

The ONLY way to end the mindless violence in the US is to immediately start a national campaign to socio-culturally inculcate alternatives to 238 years of cultural anger/violence. Good luck with that!

by Anonymousreply 8April 10, 2023 3:07 PM

It may be a deadly shootout during a bank robbery.

by Anonymousreply 9April 10, 2023 3:08 PM

It was in a bank, so attempted bank robbery?

by Anonymousreply 10April 10, 2023 3:09 PM

Republicans in the 90s weren’t wrong about rap.

Songs about flippantly pumping bullets into people for minor slights, what could go wrong?

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by Anonymousreply 11April 10, 2023 3:09 PM

Me too, R6. I'm inured to it. It can't be changed with the large minority in this country of rabid smug-but-uncivilized butthurt right wingers. So I'll just gobble up the excitement like when you see a bad car wreck and you want to check how bad the people were hurt (as a gawker even when you can't do anything to help)

I guess it's exciting? I had a friend who spent half his time in Ireland and said he often got bored there - that America was "exciting". Ha!

by Anonymousreply 12April 10, 2023 3:13 PM

6 people shot including a police officer.

by Anonymousreply 13April 10, 2023 3:15 PM

It is Monday. Today's mass shooting will take place in ...................... (fill in the blank).

by Anonymousreply 14April 10, 2023 3:16 PM

Apparently the shooter was in a conference room, so I'm guessing an employee or former employee. Police just announced a few minutes ago that the shooter is dead.

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by Anonymousreply 15April 10, 2023 3:20 PM

[quote]Songs about flippantly pumping bullets into people for minor slights [bold]in a country with too many fucking guns[/bold], what could go wrong?

Fixed your typo, doll.

by Anonymousreply 16April 10, 2023 3:22 PM

Five people are dead and six others, including a police officer, are injured.

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by Anonymousreply 17April 10, 2023 3:24 PM

There's nothing more American than dragging your ass into work for a Monday morning meeting that was probably not even necessary, then getting massacred in the conference room before 10AM.

by Anonymousreply 18April 10, 2023 3:28 PM

They just announced it was a 'workplace violence' situation. So we're back to the bank employee equivalent of Disgruntled Postal Worker Syndrome.

by Anonymousreply 19April 10, 2023 3:30 PM

It's Kentucky the chances of state legislation doing something via bills is unlikely. The governor is a Democrat and he'll get ridiculed if he pushes for some kind of reform.

by Anonymousreply 20April 10, 2023 3:33 PM

I guess we're supposed to feel better it was work related and not completely random.

by Anonymousreply 21April 10, 2023 3:34 PM

[quote]Apparently the shooter was in a conference room

Copycat!

by Anonymousreply 22April 10, 2023 3:35 PM

"Going postal" is back in style!

by Anonymousreply 23April 10, 2023 3:37 PM

Was the shooter a drag queen?

by Anonymousreply 24April 10, 2023 3:39 PM

If only every workplace required you to have a fully loaded AR-15 in your hand, your coffee in your other hand, while you answer the phone in your other hand, while typing with both hands, to meet your quotas.

by Anonymousreply 25April 10, 2023 3:39 PM

No hand wringing and pearl clutching. This is just how Americans solve problems. This guy had a beef with some coworkers, chose a second amendment solution, and now he doesn’t. Problem solved.

Y’all know your country is a toilet, right?

by Anonymousreply 27April 10, 2023 3:42 PM

R26 Louisville is hardly the south and is easily the biggest Democratic voting block in the state. Troll harder.

by Anonymousreply 28April 10, 2023 3:46 PM

R11 drill is a really dangerous influence on young people. They make music videos desecrating the graves and memorials of people they murdered while describing the actual murders in detail. The “Who I Smoke” video is like that, the whole thing is just mocking the victims and families of real murders, I couldn’t believe how disturbing and evil it really was and that Vanessa Carlton wasn’t bothered by that at all.

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by Anonymousreply 29April 10, 2023 3:47 PM

Another typical day in America. Was it the banks fault? Was it the drag queens? Was it the medication? Or was it not enough thoughts and prayers?

by Anonymousreply 30April 10, 2023 3:49 PM

This is the 132nd mass shooting of 2023 in the US.

by Anonymousreply 31April 10, 2023 3:54 PM

It's the 100th day of the year and we've had 132 mass shootings. Cool, that's totally cool and normal.

by Anonymousreply 32April 10, 2023 3:57 PM

I can honestly say I no longer give a flying fuck. 5 dead, 50, 5000....what the fuck ever. Don't care in the slightest.

BAN GUNS! Oh you don't want to do that? Then like I said, I don't give a shit.

Fuck you America. I hate you.

by Anonymousreply 33April 10, 2023 3:59 PM

What’s left to say? It’s all been said before. The problem is the Rethugs. On the orders of the NRA, they refuse to allow sensible gun reform laws to move forward.

The only sensible solution is to vote out the Repukes. Then we can get things done.

by Anonymousreply 34April 10, 2023 4:08 PM

There will be another one in a week or two, and this one will be forgotten like all the others. It’s now about the equivalence to people dying in random things like an auto accident. Until the mass cognitive dissonance about guns lifts, nothing will change. I’m numb to it now.

by Anonymousreply 35April 10, 2023 4:11 PM

One week or two r53? I give it three days max.

by Anonymousreply 36April 10, 2023 4:12 PM

R33 You’re mentally and an example of the change in culture that causes these mass shootings.

by Anonymousreply 37April 10, 2023 4:13 PM

Are we blaming trans people, locked doors or rap music this time?

I can never figure out the layout on my Mass Shooting Deflection Bingo card.

by Anonymousreply 38April 10, 2023 4:15 PM

If the biggest issue against Democrats are trans stuff and the biggest issue against Republicans are terrible gun policies then it's pretty clear that latter need to be voted out to even begin to solve this countries problems.

by Anonymousreply 39April 10, 2023 4:26 PM

(yawn)

Wake me when they start gunning down the gun nuts.

by Anonymousreply 40April 10, 2023 4:29 PM

Oh, there's been another mass shooting in the US. It must be a day that ends in "day".

by Anonymousreply 41April 10, 2023 4:30 PM

We must apply political pressure to ban deadly weapons. Please contact your US & state Congressmen & Senators. Just Google them & go to the Comments section on their websites and let them know how you feel in a few words. It’s not important exactly what you say. It does make a difference to them what their constituents think. This is true of legislators of both parties, no matter what their position on the issue is. Views are changing in response to all the reported shootings. There is power in numbers, so take a minute to add your voice. Don’t give up!

by Anonymousreply 43April 10, 2023 4:50 PM

This has been our reality for awhile. We are going to get to a point that we will be completely desensitized and only affected when it happens in our world.

If you are sick of this, start voting differently. If you want to get an abortion or the abortion pill, start voting differently. There will be no change until it is reflected in votes that change the course.

by Anonymousreply 44April 10, 2023 5:04 PM

No confirmation yet but the talk on Twitter is that the shooter was 25yo Connor Sturgeon who livestreamed the shooting on Instagram.

by Anonymousreply 45April 10, 2023 5:16 PM

Nothing will change, the country would explode if you tried to take guns away. Actually, I think it needs to happen now before I die so I can see it all.

There is no way to get almost 400 million guns away from people, it not happening. Enjoy your 2nd amendment and the blown up brains spewed all over. I think we should show the crime scene images with family consent, some would allow it I think. That still won't help either, but people need to see the carnage and suffer for it.

by Anonymousreply 47April 10, 2023 5:21 PM

Could we stop calling assault weapons guns?

by Anonymousreply 49April 10, 2023 5:24 PM

It isn't about "taking guns away" from people, r47. It's only about military style weapons and sensible background checks.

by Anonymousreply 50April 10, 2023 5:25 PM

FBI special agent has identified the real problem. Of course it's not guns! It's because people now think this is a way to solve problems - so we just need to teach better problem solving skills, people! Minute 2 at News Nation link

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by Anonymousreply 51April 10, 2023 5:26 PM

The gun nutters are blaming it on the liberal pronoun people since apparently the alleged shooter had his pronouns listed on his LinkedIn.

by Anonymousreply 52April 10, 2023 5:27 PM

Because we just had Good Friday and Easter Sunday, I already used up all my thoughts and prayers for the month.

by Anonymousreply 53April 10, 2023 5:29 PM

I'll give you some of mine, r53. I don't really use them.

by Anonymousreply 54April 10, 2023 5:31 PM

R37, I'm not part of the problem, I hate guns and would never own one I don't see why I'm part of the culture that causes this problem.

by Anonymousreply 55April 10, 2023 5:34 PM

This wouldn't have happened if this was a Zoom call.

by Anonymousreply 56April 10, 2023 5:34 PM

Its a combination of inflation , economy, but also the alignment of the planet . This is supposed to be an angry time for the next 2 or 3 weeks. Everybody please keep calm.

by Anonymousreply 57April 10, 2023 5:35 PM

I'm feeling suicidal so let me take some other folks with me. /s

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by Anonymousreply 58April 10, 2023 5:36 PM

If that really is the shooter he was a cutie. I hope he wasn’t gay - we don’t need the bad publicity. I wonder what went wrong? Young, good looking and decently educated. Even if things were fucked up at work quit and move on. You’re 25.

by Anonymousreply 59April 10, 2023 5:36 PM

Why can't these nutters shoot up an NRA conference, or a gun show, or a Republican congress? Why do they always shoot people who are powerless (kids) or just otherwise going about their day?

by Anonymousreply 60April 10, 2023 5:37 PM

Right, R59? He had a masters, he could have found work somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 61April 10, 2023 5:38 PM

He looks like he could be a cookie sniffer

by Anonymousreply 62April 10, 2023 5:40 PM

The US: OMG, this has gotta stop! Something needs to be done right now!!

Everywhere else: Tune in tomorrow for news of the next mass shooting in the US.

by Anonymousreply 63April 10, 2023 5:46 PM

His face is gone now R64.

by Anonymousreply 65April 10, 2023 5:50 PM

red state? /checks/ yeh, red state.

by Anonymousreply 66April 10, 2023 5:50 PM

Should aim at Republicans since they like shootings.

by Anonymousreply 67April 10, 2023 5:52 PM

R66 oh but remember it's a blue city in a red state! Don't forget that. Republicans will quickly remind you.

by Anonymousreply 68April 10, 2023 5:52 PM

His LinkedIn profile lists 'Teamwork' as one of his skills. I imagine his teammates* would beg to differ.

*Those who are still alive.

by Anonymousreply 69April 10, 2023 5:54 PM

Meh. I'm desensitized to this gun madness.

by Anonymousreply 70April 10, 2023 5:56 PM

It’ll be interesting if his views change

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by Anonymousreply 72April 10, 2023 6:14 PM

Andy Beshar is a Democrat you moron

by Anonymousreply 73April 10, 2023 6:14 PM

The shooter supposedly streamed the entire event on Instagram Live, and the stream was still active when police searched his body.

by Anonymousreply 74April 10, 2023 6:15 PM

R73 oh I didn’t look, I assumed Kentucky and all.

by Anonymousreply 75April 10, 2023 6:15 PM

Word is the shooter might be a homosexual

by Anonymousreply 76April 10, 2023 6:20 PM

[quote]"Going postal" is back in style!

It's older than you think!

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by Anonymousreply 79April 10, 2023 6:24 PM

Why don’t Americans stage a nation wide work stoppage to protest politicians doing absolutely nothing about gun violence?

by Anonymousreply 80April 10, 2023 6:26 PM

The shooter was just getting rid of hated flyoverstanis, what's the problema?

by Anonymousreply 81April 10, 2023 6:26 PM

This will continue to happen as long as Republicans hold power. It's what they want.

by Anonymousreply 83April 10, 2023 6:27 PM

America is weird like that.

by Anonymousreply 84April 10, 2023 6:31 PM

Access to guns, the types of guns...

But....

Why are the young folk so ready to just fucking shoot their way out of everything?

I blame us older people, our responses above are so heartless, we've created no communities, no safety nets, no communication for these kids. And yet participation trophies, blah blah... sure.

But they're beyond ruined from Covid, etc, so... you know,.. someone should do something about that.

by Anonymousreply 85April 10, 2023 6:40 PM

R86, you proved my point but you can't possibly understand that, can you?

by Anonymousreply 87April 10, 2023 6:45 PM

I just expect there to be a mass causality shooting in some city in the USA now. Maybe not in mine but somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 88April 10, 2023 6:45 PM

They're also counting every inner city shooting of more than two as a "mass shooting"- which we didn't before. So don't conflate these "going postal", "Sandy Hook" events with what the stats show.

by Anonymousreply 90April 10, 2023 6:48 PM

[quote][quote]Access to guns, the types of guns...

[quote]But....

Blow it out your *But*, r87.

by Anonymousreply 92April 10, 2023 6:51 PM

You know, if we only had MOAR GUNS!!!...

by Anonymousreply 93April 10, 2023 6:53 PM

R92, yeah ok. Great conversation and I'm sure we're going to make great changes with this intelligent dialogue.

Fuck off and die in a hail of bullets you will bitch and seethe about, but not actually try and stop in any practical way.

I'm so tired of trying to actually work with anyone who just wants to feel righteous and not help.

by Anonymousreply 94April 10, 2023 6:55 PM

R89 you just know all those southern belles can’t wait to make teary eyed posts about “the ones we lost #KYstrong”

by Anonymousreply 95April 10, 2023 7:00 PM

Welcome to DL, r94. We know from trolls. You really have to up your game around here.

by Anonymousreply 96April 10, 2023 7:01 PM

[Quote] Why are the young folk so ready to just fucking shoot their way out of everything

Violent video games are great training.

by Anonymousreply 97April 10, 2023 7:05 PM

It's a shame we can't do a fucking thing about access to weapons of war.

*and*

It's a shame nobody's doing a fucking thing about emotionally unstable young people until they shoot up a mall.

There, how's that?

by Anonymousreply 98April 10, 2023 7:09 PM

Men are crazy hormonal bitches and should not be allowed to have guns.

by Anonymousreply 99April 10, 2023 7:12 PM

I don’t know if this is legit but seems like it.

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by Anonymousreply 100April 10, 2023 7:17 PM

I’m shocked he’s so attractive. Why would he throw away his life like this?

by Anonymousreply 102April 10, 2023 7:19 PM

I’m not following this story. Does this one involve a tranny?

by Anonymousreply 103April 10, 2023 7:22 PM

Let’s be honest, he’s got major skinny white boy BDF and was packing at least 7.5” if not 9” and that’s the real story here.

by Anonymousreply 104April 10, 2023 7:24 PM

The shooter had average white guy face.

by Anonymousreply 105April 10, 2023 7:27 PM

Why can’t we start burning down gun stores.

by Anonymousreply 106April 10, 2023 7:28 PM

[quote]It's a shame nobody's doing a fucking thing about emotionally unstable young people until they shoot up a mall.

The majority of mass shooters aren't young people, r98. Would you say there's ever been a mass shooter who *wasn't* mentally imbalanced? It's the Radical Repubs who vote *against* mental health funding. Yes, isn't that a "shame"?

The mass shooters have any variety of psychosis, the ONLY thing that they have in common is a gun. And in most of those cases it's a very specific type of gun.

Again, troll harder. You're being very transparent.

by Anonymousreply 107April 10, 2023 7:28 PM

r97 in the * Lt Governor Winsome Sears says Drag Queens are giving Kids Lap Dances in Schools* thread:

[quote]Besides performing on stages whether televised, such as Drag Racerecorded, etc what other public forums do drag performers perform in???

[quote]Reading to elementary school children WAS NOT a regular part of their work. It was probably suggested by someone close to a drag performer as a one off novel idea that ultimately caused controversy. Through social media it caught on and became a thing. It’s not taking away from your rights to do what you do on stage being a drag performer. Do not push the envelope where it’s not necessary. People are inherently protective of children regardless of who or what the situation. Nobody needs to be provoking the far right or concerned parents into accepting drag performers as a part of the classroom. It’s overreach and will only continue to backfire on those who insist on pushing the idea.

by Anonymousreply 108April 10, 2023 7:34 PM

R103, nope. It's just your token disgruntled white guy with guns, as always...

by Anonymousreply 109April 10, 2023 7:39 PM

I don't see any trans people here...

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by Anonymousreply 110April 10, 2023 7:41 PM

The shooter's face reminds me of a ventriloquist dummy's face

by Anonymousreply 111April 10, 2023 7:43 PM

The Louisville Rep's greeting card with his family of 7 all holding assault rifles or whatever they are

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by Anonymousreply 113April 10, 2023 7:47 PM

And he's up for re-election in 2024. Can we send money to his opponent?

by Anonymousreply 114April 10, 2023 7:49 PM

Nothing new to see here, folks.

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by Anonymousreply 115April 10, 2023 7:49 PM

R113, ok- but see, I don't know shit about guns, but I know for a fact that you aren't supposed to point them Willy-nilly like that: the rep has the assault rifle Pointed at his daughter's thigh! Even unloaded, the NRA should have sanctioned him.

by Anonymousreply 116April 10, 2023 7:50 PM

[quote]Again, troll harder. You're being very transparent.

Projecting like a 200-screen cineplex, this one is.

by Anonymousreply 117April 10, 2023 7:52 PM

[quote]Totally agree with [R47]

Of course you do, r112, Because you want to spread the disinformation that it's about "taking away everyone's guns!".

by Anonymousreply 118April 10, 2023 7:53 PM

I volunteer to console the grieving Kentucky governor.

by Anonymousreply 119April 10, 2023 7:53 PM

R104, I say 9 inches, long not thick. Such a shame.

by Anonymousreply 120April 10, 2023 7:56 PM

No one even cares anymore, that's how ridiculous America's obsession with guns is (and it is an OBSESSION). Fucking losers.

by Anonymousreply 121April 10, 2023 7:58 PM

As long as the NRA exists we will never be rid of guns. They fund the Republican's campaigns. They give huge amounts of money to the republican pacs. The gun manufacturers also give tons of money to the republican party. Citizens united needs to be overturned.

by Anonymousreply 122April 10, 2023 8:00 PM

Nothing disgusts me more than those Republican family Christmas card arsenal shots. Absolute depravity. They make me hate this fucking country so much I can’t stand it. And yes, it’s perfectly OK to hate your country. It’s unfortunate for me I was born here, in Louisville to be exact, but no one asked me. Not one thing can be done to end this shit.

by Anonymousreply 123April 10, 2023 8:01 PM

R55 Your response to me makes you sound even more mentally ill. No self awareness. Millions of people have guns. Some of them even have big stockpiles of guns. You have a comparative handful of people whose mental faculties lead them to go out and kill a bunch of people. Oftentimes people they don’t know. Based on what? Sometimes, like you, they just hate whatever those random groups of people represent, in their own minds. You, talking about hating the whole of America, sound like someone who would go out and shoot at a bunch of families (most likely white) at a church picnic. Your shit-stain brain doesn’t conceive that you live in a dynamic country of people who don’t all think the same or behave the same. You sound like a sociopath.

by Anonymousreply 124April 10, 2023 8:01 PM

How so, r117? Let me know where I'm wrong in my post.

by Anonymousreply 125April 10, 2023 8:01 PM

He had pronouns in his bio. Of course he did.

by Anonymousreply 126April 10, 2023 8:01 PM

Tall, pleasant looking, master's degree, employed. How does he decide to shoot up people because he is suicidal?

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by Anonymousreply 129April 10, 2023 8:12 PM

R128 if you have a LinkedIn you can see his pronouns. If you simply pull it up via a search and on the website, not signed in, you cannot. He does indeed have pronouns on his LinkedIn, I personally verified it just now.

by Anonymousreply 130April 10, 2023 8:15 PM

Why are the gender cultists suddenly shooting up people? First the trans mass shooter and now this dude with pronouns in his bio.

by Anonymousreply 131April 10, 2023 8:16 PM

R129 Because he's a loser bitch without a single original thought.

by Anonymousreply 132April 10, 2023 8:17 PM

R131 I don't think it's a thing, just a generation divide.

by Anonymousreply 133April 10, 2023 8:18 PM

R132 types like the person he describes.

by Anonymousreply 134April 10, 2023 8:19 PM

R134 Duh! how do you think I know?!

by Anonymousreply 135April 10, 2023 8:20 PM

R129, that's what I'm saying! I do think the actual amount of guns is insurmountable and people will always be able to get their hands on them.

... but an interesting thought. Pythons were becoming a problem in the Everglades. They were thriving in the climate and eating all the smaller prey that couldn't avoid them, displacing other animals. Scientists didn't know what to do.

Until it turned out squirrels discovered python eggs are delicious. These little innocuous creatures destroyed the predator in its nest.

And it got me thinking, how can you apply that kind of solution to our issues...

How can we squirrels eat the eggs?

by Anonymousreply 136April 10, 2023 8:21 PM

Gee, I wonder what Kid Rock thinks about this.

by Anonymousreply 137April 10, 2023 8:24 PM

Jared Kushner is that you?

by Anonymousreply 138April 10, 2023 8:28 PM

r131 eats bloody stools...

by Anonymousreply 139April 10, 2023 8:28 PM

R131 doesn't need to state his pronouns, we know them already: asshole/asshole's.

by Anonymousreply 141April 10, 2023 8:32 PM

[[quote][R129], that's what I'm saying! I do think the actual amount of guns is insurmountable and people will always be able to get their hands on them.

[quote]How can we squirrels eat the eggs?

You aren't fooling anybody, r136.

by Anonymousreply 142April 10, 2023 8:33 PM

Are we sure he wasn’t a paid actor?

by Anonymousreply 143April 10, 2023 8:35 PM

According to Heavy, Sturgeon wrote in the biography section of the social media page [Instagram], “God and basketball".

by Anonymousreply 144April 10, 2023 8:36 PM

R144 So all the gays would run away from him?

by Anonymousreply 145April 10, 2023 8:39 PM

I would like to donate my talents to sing at all the victims funerals.

by Anonymousreply 146April 10, 2023 8:40 PM

So a cop was shot in the head and is in critical condition. Why the fuck was he not wearing a helmet? If you demand cops run into the middle of a mass shootings at least provide them with protective equipment. This is fucking unacceptable.

And people wonder why there’s a police shortage. Why are people not rushing to become cops? Fuck this.

by Anonymousreply 147April 10, 2023 8:44 PM

Was it the gender of peace?

by Anonymousreply 149April 10, 2023 8:47 PM

There are 400,000,000 guns in this country. 'Banning guns!' is simply a non-starter for logistical reasons, quite aside from everything else. Even were they to be banned, 'phantom' handguns can now be 3D printed at absolute minimal cost, so fireaarms will always be available to those who want them badly enough.

by Anonymousreply 150April 10, 2023 8:47 PM

There’s always Switzerland.

by Anonymousreply 151April 10, 2023 8:53 PM

Rory/ r150 - Who has recommended "banning guns"? Who?

by Anonymousreply 152April 10, 2023 9:03 PM

Die in a grease fire, r148.

by Anonymousreply 153April 10, 2023 9:04 PM

He doesn’t look trans but looks like he smelled cookies.

by Anonymousreply 154April 10, 2023 9:05 PM

Allegedly, this is the shooter’s brother.

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by Anonymousreply 155April 10, 2023 9:08 PM

R142, you are a bore and add nothing to the conversation.

My egg allegory is a real debate- prohibitively expensive materials for bullets, or bullets themselves; more training for law enforcement/health care/social workers; some element other than the clearly failed, "gun control" policies that not only haven't worked, but are so supremely outdated for the current supply of guns on the street as to be laughable.

by Anonymousreply 157April 10, 2023 9:13 PM

The gunman was hot, huge, and hung, thus, he's absolved of all the sins and crime.

by Anonymousreply 158April 10, 2023 9:13 PM

Nice nose, among other features.

by Anonymousreply 159April 10, 2023 9:13 PM

[bold] Likely motive: [/bold]

[quote] WAVE3 reports that Sturgeon was fired from Old National Bank last week.

by Anonymousreply 160April 10, 2023 9:15 PM

And the Republicans will support/fund any of that...how, r157?

by Anonymousreply 161April 10, 2023 9:16 PM

[quote]some element other than the clearly failed, "gun control" policies that not only haven't worked,

*What* "gun control polices", r157? The ten year assault weapon ban *did* work. You keep spreading disinformation that we're trying to eliminate *all* guns and that mental health and training is the alternative. The Republicans continue to vote against that.

*You*, r157, are a bore and add nothing (but Right wing talking points) to the conversation...funny that.

by Anonymousreply 163April 10, 2023 9:25 PM

No the assaults weapon ban didn't work! It took 6 months to design around it- SHUT UP. You are out of your element.

by Anonymousreply 164April 10, 2023 9:29 PM

It banned 17 types of high capacity magazines...

So they invented an 18th.

by Anonymousreply 165April 10, 2023 9:30 PM

So a 25 year old shot up the place because he got fired? Talk about overdoing it. If he didn’t have this weapon at his disposal, like people in civilized countries, he’d probably just have gotten drunk and gotten over it in a few days.

by Anonymousreply 166April 10, 2023 9:31 PM

If Republicans cared about mental,health they’d provide free counseling/psychiatric care. Which will never happen. Too many crazy people who obtain dangerous weapons that can kill cops. This will just get worse.

by Anonymousreply 167April 10, 2023 9:32 PM

[quote]Access to guns, the types of guns...

[quote]But....

[quote]Why are the young folk so ready to just fucking shoot their way out of everything?

[quote]I blame us older people, our responses above are so heartless, we've created no communities, no safety nets, no communication for these kids. And yet participation trophies, blah blah... sure.

[quote]But they're beyond ruined from Covid, etc, so... you know,.. someone should do something about that.

Sure, r164/r165...

by Anonymousreply 168April 10, 2023 9:37 PM

Average citizens should not be able to obtain firepower equal to what cops have. A rifle to hunt with or a small gun for self defense.That’s it. And even that should be regulated. Criminals will always break the laws but these shooters are mentally ill. There are ways to stop them.

by Anonymousreply 169April 10, 2023 9:38 PM

According to the DM, he was popular and a star athlete in high school. He also sustained several concussions. It's possible he had CTE which led him to be violent. Or, he could be a narcissist who didn't want to face friends and family with the news he got fired.

by Anonymousreply 170April 10, 2023 9:39 PM

Not just republicans,

[quote] Sanders won the race and kept his promise. He was an occasional ally to the NRA, repeatedly voting against the Brady Bill, which mandated waiting periods and background checks; opposing funding for gun violence research; and voting to protect gun manufacturers and retailers from lawsuits.

[quote] He also honored his commitment, in 1994, to vote for an assault weapons ban. But as the frequency and severity of mass shootings increased over the next two decades, Sanders continued to maintain that the federal government ought to avoid regulating firearms. “In my view, decisions about gun control should be made as close to home as possible — at the state level,” he said after a July 2012 shooting at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo.

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by Anonymousreply 171April 10, 2023 9:39 PM

Just to be clear, Thomas Massie represents Kentucky's 4th House district, which is mostly the northeast region around Cincinnati. His district includes a sliver of Louisville, which happens to be our wealthiest and staunch Republican neighborhoods (funny how that turned out). The vast majority of Louisville makes up the 3rd district, which is represented by Democratic freshman Morgan McGarvey. He is the successor to liberal John Yarmuth, who served eight terms in the House supporting progressive legislation.

Other than the millionaires on the edge of the city, no one in Louisville wants to claim Thomas Massie.

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by Anonymousreply 172April 10, 2023 9:39 PM

R171 Bernie needs to be dragged for that.

by Anonymousreply 173April 10, 2023 9:42 PM

[quote] so a cop was shot in the head and is in critical condition. Why the fuck was he not wearing a helmet? If you demand cops run into the middle of a mass shootings at least provide them with protective equipment.

Oh no. That would be too military looking, Cops can't have clothes of war.

by Anonymousreply 174April 10, 2023 9:42 PM

R171 Sanders keeps being reelected because Vermont loves hunting and is very much into guns. If he goes against the NRA he won't be reelected again. VT isn't that liberal. Sanders has always been an opportunist. He has never done anything of importance in all the years he has been in office. He is just a blowhard.

by Anonymousreply 175April 10, 2023 9:47 PM

Helmets and such only work if the bullets aren't armor piercing.

by Anonymousreply 176April 10, 2023 9:47 PM

R173, but I bring it up because I think a lot of Dems (especially New England Dems) talk out of both sides of their mouths here, and that's why we're dying.

They all shout, "republicans!" but ALL of the politicians are complicit.

You have the Brady Bill, and boom- gun shows pop up bigger than ever as the work around. But they go unaddressed because our leaders want to get re-elected or become president...

by Anonymousreply 177April 10, 2023 9:48 PM

R150 and yet the U.K. managed it with The Firearms (Amendment) Act 1988 after the Hungerford massacre. The people have to WANT change. The problem with America is that THE PEOPLE either don’t want change or take exception to being asked to do something for the greater good (like giving up unnecessarily powerful firearms).

by Anonymousreply 178April 10, 2023 9:48 PM

[quote] If Republicans cared about mental,health they’d provide free counseling/psychiatric care.

I agree. And if Democrats cared about mental health they'd pay for more residential mental health facilities and allow them to detain persons who pose a danger to themself or others.

by Anonymousreply 179April 10, 2023 9:49 PM

It drives me nuts how progressive youtubers like Sam Seder, Emma Vigeland, Anna Kasperian and others constantly trash a lot of establishment or moderate Dems, but their precious Bernie never gets trashed by them.

by Anonymousreply 180April 10, 2023 9:50 PM

Did the shooter have a ludicrously capacious bag?

by Anonymousreply 181April 10, 2023 9:52 PM

Maybe if him and his brother relieved each other’s tension more often this wouldn’t have happen.

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by Anonymousreply 182April 10, 2023 9:53 PM

[quote]And if Democrats cared about mental health they'd pay for more residential mental health facilities

And that money would come from where, r179?

by Anonymousreply 183April 10, 2023 9:55 PM

The model brother sort of reminds me of Theo James.

by Anonymousreply 184April 10, 2023 9:58 PM

It’s definitely his brother. LinkedIn says Louisville and modeling agency has scrapped his profile.

by Anonymousreply 185April 10, 2023 10:00 PM

R183, not out of R179's MAGA ass, that's for sure.

by Anonymousreply 186April 10, 2023 10:00 PM

A. Fuck off with your MAGA bullshit, the NRA actually has a bad relationship with Trump.

YOU DON'T KNOW US POLITICS.

You don't belong in this conversation.

by Anonymousreply 187April 10, 2023 10:04 PM

R187 aka MAGA lard ass, who are YOU to boss people in here around?

by Anonymousreply 189April 10, 2023 10:14 PM

R188, [quote] “I think, in the end, Wayne and the NRA will either be there or maybe will be a little bit more neutral and that would be OK, too,” Trump said. “You know, it’s a slippery slope. They think you approve one thing and that leads to a lot of bad things. I don’t agree with that. I think we can do meaningful, very meaningful background checks. I want to see it happen.”.

Were you not around for this?and the meltdown it caused?

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by Anonymousreply 190April 10, 2023 10:16 PM

Can we get rid of the fucking trolls, or is this site COMPLICIT?

by Anonymousreply 191April 10, 2023 10:19 PM

Alright, this is idiotic. Go back to MSNBC and the Daily show.

You can just call everyone a MAGA fat ass and scream and link to YouTube, and regurgitate the same pablum you suck back every night and feel good in your echo chamber.

I'm sure I'll see your name on a low level donor list and never know we had this fight.

by Anonymousreply 192April 10, 2023 10:19 PM

[quote] Should aim at Republicans since they like shootings.

His social media showed he was an anti-Trumper, so maybe he was.

by Anonymousreply 193April 10, 2023 10:19 PM

Welcome Breitbart trolls!

Some hot and heavy BBC action to secretly shame excite you while you MAGAsplain guns to us.

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by Anonymousreply 194April 10, 2023 10:26 PM

Did you miss this sentence in the article YOU posted, R190 / R187?

[quote] “I have a great relationship with the NRA,” [Trump] said.

by Anonymousreply 195April 10, 2023 10:27 PM

Is the GQP blaming the victims yet.?

by Anonymousreply 196April 10, 2023 10:28 PM

This thread is dead, as dead as… oh never mind

by Anonymousreply 197April 10, 2023 10:29 PM

R196 Lindsay will send prayers when he’s done working the handicapped stall.

by Anonymousreply 198April 10, 2023 10:31 PM

I would never live in Louisville. I think that incongruent places like that are like landmines ready to explode.

by Anonymousreply 199April 10, 2023 10:34 PM

[quote]Maybe if him and his brother

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 200April 10, 2023 10:59 PM

R194 just reminded us what gay men’s dicks look like. That’s right trolls, we’re all happy because we have huge dicks that sucked off beautifully and often with no strings attached. That’s why we know you trolls are bitter.

by Anonymousreply 201April 11, 2023 12:18 AM

C'mon, r187, you are doing very poorly at this troll business. I definitely recommend another line of work.

by Anonymousreply 202April 11, 2023 12:20 AM

I don't think he was gay (fortunately). His IG pics consistently show him with a woman. Also, if the IG is the correct one, he is NOT that good looking and looks very little like his LinkedIn profile pic.

by Anonymousreply 203April 11, 2023 2:13 AM

[quote]His IG pics consistently show him with a woman

We should only be criticizing straight cis and trans males regarding gun violence. We have nothing to do with it.

by Anonymousreply 204April 11, 2023 2:17 AM

R58, this is definitely NOT the fault of his friend, but why did he not call the police or at least mental health services the minute he got that text?

If someone sent me a text like this, I’d do something about it. You cannot get a text like that & not take it seriously. The shooter was obviously not well, but that text was in my opinion, a cry for help.

It used to be that waaay back in the day, people who threatened suicide, only threatened to hurt themselves. Now? It seems like suicidal people are beginning to want to go out via death by cop, which can easily mean, harming others in the process.

Don’t ignore people who make these threats. You might lose a friend forever, but you might also save lives.

I feel awful for the person who got that text. I hope they seek help ASAP as well, because this cannot be easy to deal with.

by Anonymousreply 206April 11, 2023 4:59 AM

Maybe we can’t get rid of all the firearms out there, but we can stop adding more. Many of these young shooters purchased their rifles shortly before their killing sprees. Then we can offer buybacks and confiscate guns used in crimes. It will take a long time, but the sooner we start, the better.

Australia did something like this after they had a school shooting years ago.

by Anonymousreply 208April 11, 2023 5:06 PM

If you can, spare a thought & a prayer for the shooter’s family. They are grieving their loss while also feeling ashamed, confused, and repulsed. I’ve know two (unrelated) families whose sons murdered someone. It was awful to see how they received no sympathy, even though it was not their fault.

by Anonymousreply 209April 11, 2023 5:59 PM

It might not be their fault, but they're the ones who put the defected product on the market, R209. They should feel ashamed of their family member.

by Anonymousreply 210April 11, 2023 6:08 PM

[quote] Everywhere else: Tune in tomorrow for news of the next mass shooting in the US.

A friend of mine in England said that America is talked about with absolute bewilderment these days, a lot centered on the gun violence. She said it’s like watching a car wreck.

by Anonymousreply 211April 11, 2023 6:08 PM

insane. it's now down to every fifteen hours or so between mass shootings in this horrible country

by Anonymousreply 212April 11, 2023 6:18 PM

A taxi driver in Buenos Aires asked me, “Aren’t you afraid of the all the guns?” He was shocked that in the US anyone could just buy a gun and walk around with it.

by Anonymousreply 213April 11, 2023 6:27 PM

Yes, the entire world thinks that we're insane.

by Anonymousreply 214April 11, 2023 6:40 PM

[quote]A friend of mine in England said that America is talked about with absolute bewilderment these days, a lot centered on the gun violence. She said it’s like watching a car wreck.

Well, tell your friend in England that absolutely nobody here in America (except for millions of strangers online) is talking about anything that's going on in America, or expressing any bewilderment whatsoever. No matter who I talk to, where I go, what I overhear....all just personal small talk bullshit yada yada. NOBODY is talking about gun violence, or anything of any importance whatsoever.

by Anonymousreply 215April 11, 2023 6:45 PM

San Antonio head coach is naming names!

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by Anonymousreply 216April 11, 2023 6:49 PM

[quote] Australia did something like this after they had a school shooting years ago

Um. because of the shooting Australia set up a national registry and then used that registry to confiscate everyone's guns. I think the UK did the same thing.

This is why a national registry or even state registries are so vehemently opposed in the US. They did the same in Germany and then confiscated all the guns of Jews and maybe others.

We are not these other countries. Comparisons ae useless. We also have a constitutional right to have a gun.

by Anonymousreply 217April 11, 2023 7:12 PM

you're an idiot, the constitution doesn't per se state that.

also, Australia and the UK are suffering now because of the national registry? you're a completely blithering idiot and deserve to die at your own hand

by Anonymousreply 218April 11, 2023 7:14 PM

r217 is also:

[quote]I agree. And if Democrats cared about mental health they'd pay for more residential mental health facilities and allow them to detain persons who pose a danger to themself or others.

by Anonymousreply 219April 11, 2023 7:24 PM

It would make absolute sense that anyone who isn't a hunter or law enforcement- someone using a gun as a tool (ostensibly) - who suddenly NEEDS A GUN immediately should have to wait a day or two, get on law enforcements radar, and get at least an interview. That's a logical stopgap.

by Anonymousreply 220April 11, 2023 7:43 PM

When every other country (that isn't a shithole) is looking on at you, thinking your dick love/obsession for machines like ARs over people being safe to go to school, to church, to concerts, to festivals, out to clubs, to the grocery, to the hospital, to the bank, to work, to break up with someone, to fire anyone, to promote anyone, or pretty much anything in America...YOU are the problem, not every one else.

You.

by Anonymousreply 221April 11, 2023 10:18 PM

I just watched the video that the Louisville police released - nothing gross, that was deleted - but I felt stress just seeing it. The AR15 type gun the shooter used was so LOUD.

by Anonymousreply 222April 11, 2023 10:26 PM

America has got to proactively give up its semi-automatic and automatic firearms. The ONLY way is for the people to do it and WANT to do it. Don’t wait for tougher gun control laws which will never come; do it for the greater good of every other person in your community.

Of course this absolutely will never happen because America is just a land of selfish, self-righteous, ignorant cunts who refuse to see that they are the problem and no law is going to fix that. So, enjoy the next 263 days and let’s hope we can top 500 mass shootings for this year! I believe in us! USA! USA!

by Anonymousreply 223April 11, 2023 10:55 PM

[quote] you're an idiot, the constitution doesn't per se state that.

That's your interpretation or rather, misinterpretation.

by Anonymousreply 224April 11, 2023 11:12 PM

[quote] America has got to proactively give up its semi-automatic and automatic firearms.

It's nearly impossible to have an automatic weapon in the US. Semis require pulling the trigger each time you fire.

by Anonymousreply 225April 11, 2023 11:16 PM

Any future buyback should give gun owners 10x the value of the gun -- money incentive.

by Anonymousreply 226April 11, 2023 11:23 PM

Some hott tranny action for the gunsplainer trolls.

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by Anonymousreply 228April 12, 2023 12:11 AM

[quote] No matter who I talk to, where I go, what I overhear....all just personal small talk bullshit yada yada. NOBODY is talking about gun violence, or anything of any importance whatsoever.

I think it’s because a lot of people know that in today’s political climate, nothing can be done. Any ideas coming from the Dems will just be used by the Repubs to fire up their base and fear monger. The Repubs have long turned gun ownership into a cultish obsession. So honestly, what can be done?

by Anonymousreply 229April 12, 2023 12:15 AM

They should absolutely start showing the photos of the victims, especially the kids. The Vietnam War became unpopular once Americans started seeing the dead bodies of Americans on the nightly news. That's when the protests began. Showing a bunch of dead kids with their brains spattered all over the floor by these assault guns would be the best thing to happen in this county so that people wake the fuck up about the reality of this.

by Anonymousreply 230April 12, 2023 1:08 AM

If people can't acknowledge that America can't rid of guns as long as the 2nd Amendment exists in its present form, how can they possibly fix the situation? All these peripheral things like the NRA and politicians could be swept away, and the 2A would still block attempts to remove guns. Why do people waste time going after peripheral issues instead of the one thing that matters? If you are serious about gun control, then focus on the 2A; otherwise, you are 100% guaranteed to fail and to be unhappy.

by Anonymousreply 231April 12, 2023 1:50 AM

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