Guys, can we talk fashion for a bit?

I am soon to be 50 and work in the design world. I kind of hate shopping for clothes. I want to look pulled together, but also comfortable. I also hate trying to put together an outfit every morning. I don't love the idea of spending a ton of money on clothes anymore. I also want to be semi-stylish. I am thinking that I need a simple but pulled-together look for spring into summer. I have fallen kinda hard for Muji, the Japanese department store. It seems decent and quality and inexpensive. A friend has been preaching about a capsule collection, I guess things you can mix and match. Looking to order some basics tonight. I like this French terrycloth sweatshirt, maybe a white button-down and jeans or linen pants for every day? I'd like a uniform that seems comfortable and not boring. Typically my winter look is a blazer with a turtleneck and jeans. Would you think this is appropriate business casual for a designer? I will spend money on shoes, but I am pretty simple for everything else. If you have any suggestions, let me know.

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by Anonymousreply 147August 28, 2022 12:42 AM

I find this style very becoming on older men, OP.

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by Anonymousreply 1March 30, 2022 11:30 PM

If you’re only 50, are you hot? If so go naked. Thx.

by Anonymousreply 2March 30, 2022 11:31 PM

Doing this can result in a monotonous look but if you fill your wardrobe with pieces that all match each other, you don't have to put much effort into pre-planning outfits.

by Anonymousreply 3March 30, 2022 11:33 PM

Maybe try Stitch Fix. It's kind of like having your own personal stylist. They will put together outfits and send to you. You keep what you like, return what you don't. It's not horribly expensive either.

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by Anonymousreply 4March 30, 2022 11:40 PM

Linen pants seems like something for the beach or vacation. Jeans are better.

by Anonymousreply 5March 30, 2022 11:41 PM

Have heard about them, but have not really investigated. Will take a look, R4

by Anonymousreply 6March 30, 2022 11:43 PM

OP, this year should remind you of the end scene of “Silent Hill” with muted impressionist pastels supported by very inky blues and barks.

Avoid stretchy pants or anything that says you’ve given up on life like a drawstring waist, or flannel material, or visible asscrack.

by Anonymousreply 7March 30, 2022 11:44 PM

My advice is to avoid r7’s advice all together

by Anonymousreply 8March 30, 2022 11:46 PM

Wear this-- comfortable yet presentable

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by Anonymousreply 9March 30, 2022 11:47 PM

A turtleneck and blazer just screams elder....Anything else is better

by Anonymousreply 10March 30, 2022 11:47 PM

OP, I think you would look best in the startling and glamorous look Rita Moreno wore to the Oscars. If it looks this fabulous on a ninety-year-old, just think how fabulous it will look on YOU!

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by Anonymousreply 11March 30, 2022 11:56 PM

You bitches are hilarious and I hate you all.

by Anonymousreply 12March 30, 2022 11:56 PM

Your pulled together look should match your pulled face, OP.

by Anonymousreply 13March 31, 2022 12:11 AM

Seriously, if your still thin, it’s a season of “Hungry Like The Wolf” and “Dancing In The Sheets”.

by Anonymousreply 14March 31, 2022 12:16 AM

Muji, Uniqlo, and other Asia-based clothing companies tend to make men's shirts with narrow shoulders.

by Anonymousreply 15March 31, 2022 12:22 AM

I think it's safe to assume that OP walks with just a bit of a swish, especially on days when she wears her Manolo Blahnik pumps.

by Anonymousreply 16March 31, 2022 12:52 AM

R15, that's the reason you don't see any white males over 12 in those stores.

by Anonymousreply 17March 31, 2022 1:01 AM

R15. I can't buy pants or shoes there, but shirts and sweaters seem to work. I'm 6'2 and about 200lbs. Their denim inseams end at 34' which works', but not their other pants.

by Anonymousreply 18March 31, 2022 1:15 AM

OP that top looks perfect for Mrs. Doubtfire, perhaps.

by Anonymousreply 19March 31, 2022 1:31 AM

OP, I'm late 50's and also work in the design field. I travel a lot for work and almost never see the same clients or coworkers two days in a row. Ten years ago I moved to a "uniform" - well tailored, high end dark blue blazer, dark jeans (AG), starched white 100% cotton shirt, good loafers. The weight of the blazer material changes per the climate I'm in but almost always is a wool or wool blend. In colder weather I may put a cashmere sweater on under the blazer and add a scarf. Took me awhile to figure out that at my age, no one is looking at my wardrobe. Spend your money on maintaining a great haircut and good frames if you wear glasses.

by Anonymousreply 20March 31, 2022 3:30 AM

I've perfected that HETERO slob look. I buy all of my cloths at Costco. My t shirts, underwear and socks I buy on Amazon.

I wear pants when I go into the office 2x a week but when I'm home or running to Trader Joe's or Whole Foods I wear only sweatpants since 2008.

by Anonymousreply 21March 31, 2022 3:47 AM

Leggings and a blazer. Be a leader- not a follower.

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by Anonymousreply 22March 31, 2022 4:04 AM

R4 - I have been doing Stitch for nearly a year. For the most part I have been happy with what they sent me. I haven’t gone for the shoes. The only thing I haven’t been too happy about is the “bonus” items. They are hit and miss in sizing and season, but they are “free” and not returnable. I assume they are odds and ends they need to get rid of.

by Anonymousreply 23March 31, 2022 4:05 AM

OP, if you ask me, watch the papers for André Leon Talley's estate sale. Buy up his caftans. The amount of material combined with your snappy dress sense means you'll never have to shop for clothing again!

by Anonymousreply 24March 31, 2022 5:25 AM

I circus could be held in those tents of Talley's.

by Anonymousreply 25March 31, 2022 5:34 AM

Theory - you cannot go wrong.. It's mostly solids, well made, and easy to mix and match most things from their collections.

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by Anonymousreply 26March 31, 2022 5:53 AM

I third Stitch Fix. I thought I was stylish and well dressed for work, then I subscribed to Stitch Fix and got legitimate, out of the blue compliments at work. It was really nice but also made me feel like my own style must’ve sucked and wasn’t nearly as put together as I thought.

I only did it for 6 months and I had plenty of clothes and was running out of room in my closet (and had spent quite a bit). Plus the pandemic started and I reverted to t-shirts and joggers to work from home, so I paused my membership and haven’t restarted. I got a few items I didn’t love and was too lazy to return. And I didn’t like the shoes at all and gave them to a friend. But overall, very good experience.

by Anonymousreply 27March 31, 2022 6:14 AM

OH! And I even ordered some additional items that I loved in different colors after I received an order. Most of the brands are things I’d never heard of, but when I looked them up online, the Stitch Fix prices were bargains compared to buying directly from the brands’ websites.

by Anonymousreply 28March 31, 2022 6:18 AM

[quote] I like this French terrycloth sweatshirt, maybe a white button-down and jeans or linen pants for every day? I'd like a uniform that seems comfortable and not boring. Typically my winter look is a blazer with a turtleneck and jeans.

IMO, that "French terrycloth" sweatshirt is still ... a sweatshirt. Looks like loungewear, not workwear. *At least* get a V-neck if you're going to wear something loose like that.

What is a "button-down"? Are you planning to wear a white, collared shirt under that sweatshirt or a sweater? I'd say no to that. Looks old-fashioned, IMO. However, a plain dress shirt with jeans would be nice.

No linen pants, please. Why would you want to look so rumpled if it's not necessary. I don't care if it's a natural fiber.

I like blazers and dark jeans. Please, no turtleneck. It looks stuck in the past.

I'm not familiar with Muji, but if it's anything like Uniqlo, I'd stay away.

OP, you're 50. Now is not the time in your life to start going cheap on clothing.

Good luck.

by Anonymousreply 29March 31, 2022 6:30 AM

Cheap shit from China is the thing to go to these days. Wear once and throw it away and you will never be monotonous.

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by Anonymousreply 30March 31, 2022 6:38 AM

[quote]Theory - you cannot go wrong..

I love Theory, but sooooo expensive for most guys. A leather jacket is 1,000. Been thinking about getting one, but cant tell how it will fit since the male models on most of these fashion sights look like emaciated little boys where the cloths just hang like drapes even thought they are probably slim fit's to begin with.

As you get older, I think a more minimal look, higher quality with mix and match looks better on men. You can be cool without looking like an old man that way.

by Anonymousreply 31March 31, 2022 7:55 AM

Most advice for men over 50 is don't be fat, move to the arctic north were every outfit involves layers and layers of cloths plus a jacket. And make sure you work in a conservative industry were suits and dress jackets are required. Such bullshit from most of these fashion advisor. It never occurs them that half the world live in constantly warm climate like 80-90 degrees or in creative fields where a suite or even a jacket is considered ridiculous where everyone else runs around in jeans and a t-shirt.

If you are still thin, try some of these looks. They are casual which I like.

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by Anonymousreply 32March 31, 2022 8:10 AM

Some basic fashion tips if you are in a creative industry, don't dress too formal, a jack is really pushing it. Turtle neck? Are you kidding me?

Go for dark color jeans or chinos. Go for the ones that look fresh or new, skip anything that has a distressed or aged look, they just make you look old and dirty. Instead of dress shoes go for an upgraded tennis shoe made out of leather or suede, not real athletic shoes. Skip tight t-shirts or anything with a logo. Replace them with an a button down that is made to be un-tucked. Or if it's really hot outside, try a real Ralph Lauren Polo shirt that cost around $100, not the cheap Polo brands you find for 30 dollars at Ross. The quality really shows. If it's cold, try a nice suede jacket or clean line minimal leather jacket instead of a sports coat or suit jacket.

by Anonymousreply 33March 31, 2022 8:22 AM

Stretchy pants are great- it seems most pants these days have some degree of stretch in them. My wardrobe consists mainly of stuff from Uniqlo.

by Anonymousreply 34March 31, 2022 8:36 AM

I wanted Uniqlo to work, but everything is all shiny, and the boxers have exposed elastic on the inside of the waistband and I got a rash from them. You get what you pay for.

by Anonymousreply 35March 31, 2022 10:54 AM

Yeah, not a fan of Uniqlo, it's for Asian boys on a budget. Not men, or muscular men and certainly not older men.

by Anonymousreply 36March 31, 2022 12:20 PM

I used to like Theory (at least during a 50-70% off sale), but I think the quality has gone down hill. Most of their clothes seem like athleisure now, everything is schlubby and made of some coarse poly blend. Uniqlo has also taken a nose dive; I remember when it first came to NYC in the mid-2000s and the jeans and polo shirts were very well-made and fit properly, now it's basically H&M. COS is like a budget version of a Theory, but their shirts and pants were made for waifs with no muscle tone.

by Anonymousreply 38March 31, 2022 12:28 PM

So who do you like now R38?

by Anonymousreply 39March 31, 2022 12:29 PM

Remember OP that fashion threads on DL generally turn towards what JC Penney is showing that year and how men over 40 should not wear "blue jeans" and is based on what is fashionable in Moline, Illinois or Columbia, SC

by Anonymousreply 40March 31, 2022 12:33 PM

I'm searching for new brands, R39! When it comes to chinos I go with J Crew 770, which are perfect for guys with muscular legs/ass and are frequently on sale. For dress shirts I found this brand called Hugh and Crye just as it seemed to be going out of business; rather than sizing shirts by S, M, L, or collar size, they do it by height and body type, so short/average/tall and skinny/average/athletic/broad. For jeans I like AG Trellis fit and Levi's Made and Crafted 511, but both are expensive when not on sale.

by Anonymousreply 41March 31, 2022 12:34 PM

Try Faherty OP

It's casual but stylish and there are pieces in there that could work for an older gent.

IIRC, Nordstrom carries them, but you can buy direct from the website too

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by Anonymousreply 42March 31, 2022 12:36 PM

Grayer's is a somewhat similar vibe to Faherty, slightly lower price point

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by Anonymousreply 43March 31, 2022 12:44 PM

I just buy clean and sturdy Euro and N. American vintage clothing. But not everyone wants to look classic (or like a 90s reenactor).

by Anonymousreply 44March 31, 2022 12:47 PM

Somehow my gay gene didn't include fashion sense. Otherwise I'd be happy to offer advice. I'm still waiting for Garanimals for adults.

by Anonymousreply 45March 31, 2022 12:51 PM

Thanks for the suggestions. Will dig through some of the posts in a bit.

by Anonymousreply 46March 31, 2022 12:57 PM

Here’s your uniform: grey flat font trousers, white or light blue shirt and Uniqlo merino wool v neck sweater, expensive black or brown loafer or Oxford shoe.

Vary the sweater color.

Problem solved.

by Anonymousreply 47March 31, 2022 12:58 PM

Pretty much, as R47 says. Sweaters are the expensive part too, if you want something decent. Seems even worse than shoes.

by Anonymousreply 48March 31, 2022 1:16 PM

[quote]I'm still waiting for Garanimals for adults.

When I was still teaching I was trying to explain to a kid what Garanimals were, because I thought they still made them, but no one in the class knew what it was. They scoffed at the very idea. The fools!

by Anonymousreply 49March 31, 2022 1:28 PM

Already some good suggestions. I like Todd Snyder too. Like a J Crew source but a bit more stylish. It's a touch more expensive but it's quality and a couple of pieces would be worth it.

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by Anonymousreply 50March 31, 2022 1:33 PM

Oh, garanimals! In kindergarten my mom sent me to school in mismatched garanimals-Lion on top, Zebra on the bottom and I was SURE I was going to end up kindergarten teacher Ms Wesley’s annual Worst Dressed List.

It was very distressing to me at the time.

by Anonymousreply 51March 31, 2022 1:41 PM

Faherty is great if you're going for the aging hippie surfer vibe.

by Anonymousreply 52March 31, 2022 1:44 PM

Linen is very impractical--it wrinkles when you look at. Hemp can create a similar hand but it insulates a bit too well for warm weather.

The top OP posted is pretty generic which makes me think something simple like well made preppy gear would work. Polo shirts work in all but the most formal of settings---finding a maker whose fit works for you is the main problem. Most of my casual wardrobe and my travel stuff (lots of stuff that dries over night) from Patagonia or their competitors. Practical, slightly different from the norm, youthful but doesn't make you look like you're a geezer trying to be a kid.

by Anonymousreply 53March 31, 2022 1:50 PM

Orvis is also pretty good for older gentlemen. I mostly buy used, and don't know what their new stuff is like. But they have historically made some pretty good quality smart/casual clothing. You do have to pick through some wonky stuff though.

by Anonymousreply 54March 31, 2022 1:53 PM

Bought my partner a Faherty flannel shirt for Christmas that cost $230. Within three months, three buttons have broken off. I expect better at that price.

by Anonymousreply 56March 31, 2022 4:48 PM

Re R54, R53 here: I was almost mentioned Orvis, which is another good brand. Some of their stuff is a little old-guyish but the point is, it's well made, functional and often stylish in an understated way.

by Anonymousreply 57March 31, 2022 4:54 PM

I hope you returned it R56 or at least wrote to them about it.

Most companies at that level are very good about making you whole again, either replacing the shirt or giving you store credit, a refund, etc.

by Anonymousreply 58March 31, 2022 5:01 PM

Garanimals was / were actually a good idea. That's basically what a capsule wardrobe is. A small bunch of clothing that you can mix and match.

OP, what climate are you in? What kind of work environment?

by Anonymousreply 59March 31, 2022 5:58 PM

They always say “suit jacket” for men over 50. I tried - but realized it’s ridiculous. Unless for a business meeting, wearing a suit jacket is a pain in the ass. Too hot half the year. And requires an overcoat or specific type of jacket for winter and shoulder seasons. I’ve stopped listening to style advice. If over 50: Thin, good haircut, glasses - and dark simple clothing. I honestly don’t care what people think anymore - which seems to be a crime according to the “getting older” DL threads.

by Anonymousreply 60March 31, 2022 7:30 PM

[quote] Thin, good haircut, glasses - and dark simple clothing.

This is good advice, but I do like wearing jackets.

Staying thin is the hard part. I would add: taking care of your skin, keeping up with your grooming, including feet and hands. If you have an overall clean and well-groomed look, you can just wear your dark, casual clothing and look OK.

by Anonymousreply 62March 31, 2022 7:59 PM

A wardrobe filled with Muji? I just can't. You're hopeless OP.

by Anonymousreply 63March 31, 2022 8:11 PM

I knew a girl once who had a wardrobe filled with Muji.

And then she died.

by Anonymousreply 64March 31, 2022 8:12 PM

R64- I know an old lady 👵 that swallowed a fly 🪰. I don’t know why she swallowed a fly 🪰. I guess she’ll die.

by Anonymousreply 65March 31, 2022 8:24 PM

I think that anything a designer chooses to wear is stylish because they know what they are doing. It may not be to everyone's taste but a designer has a far better chance of putting the right things together than the average person. Also if you feel good in it isn't that what fashion is? I am kind of surprised that you would question others as to your style. The only thing that I would be questioning is why you would want to wear the same style all the time. You have the perfect opportunity to switch it up instead of being stuck in a rut.

by Anonymousreply 66March 31, 2022 8:31 PM

There's some Cunt on Youtube who claims to be a fashion consultant to the stars. I wont mention her name here because I don't want her to rank any higher with clicks but she's always ragging on older guys fashion. It's all about "what woman want to see" woman's idea of how men should dress. She show really exaggerated guys with big pot bellies and double chins and says "men over 40 should not wear leather jackets" Of course most of the 10,000 reposes disagree with her. I swear she's trolling. She never gives good alternatives except wear heavy coats, sweaters, jackets scarves hats and cover up completely. Well that's nice if you live in snow country but not practical in places like Arizona or California or the South. Her husband looks like a 40 year old teen boy who is totally nurtured.

by Anonymousreply 67March 31, 2022 8:58 PM

I'm a fan of Banana Republic.

by Anonymousreply 68March 31, 2022 9:25 PM

How can a man reach the age of 30 let along 40 or 50 without the ability to go to few clothes shops on a regular basis to purchase trousers, shirts, blazers and accessories that fit well and flatter his body and coloring? Also, that is how such shops stay in business! They have sales people and merchandise that is effective in this skill of making someone look grown up and attractive.

by Anonymousreply 69March 31, 2022 9:28 PM

[quote]And requires an overcoat or specific type of jacket for winter and shoulder seasons.

The shoulder seasons are nice, but it's the torso period I love!

by Anonymousreply 70March 31, 2022 9:30 PM

Men's stores and the quality goods therein aren't cheap, R69. Says the guy who mentioned used clothing (from those men's stores, ideally) earlier in the thread.

by Anonymousreply 72March 31, 2022 9:43 PM

Todd Snyder tends to run small and if you've got even 10 extra pounds forget it. It's not as bad (or as expensive) as Ron Dorff but close.

by Anonymousreply 73March 31, 2022 9:52 PM

Clothes have gone way up lately too. I went into a Levis store and basic Levies were almost $100! They used to be around $40 before the pandemic. I finally found some at about $60 at Macys, but still, Levis in their own store almost 100 is insane. If they were designer jeans, sure, I get they are a lot more but they basic blue jeans. Everything I look at seems to start at that 100 dollar mark and up. Shirts, pants you name it. Anything of minimal quality. Sure, ZARA and similar have a lot lower prices, but the quality is so cheap, it's really disposable fashion meant for a few months of wear before it falls apart.

by Anonymousreply 74March 31, 2022 9:53 PM

No more American Levis either, just from whatever factory is lowest bidder.

by Anonymousreply 75March 31, 2022 10:02 PM

If you find their clothes run small R73, why don't you just buy the next size up?

by Anonymousreply 76March 31, 2022 10:53 PM

R74 I hear you. But there are work arounds? Used clothes, but from solid brands? Remainder shops? I gained 20 lbs over 2 years of covid but a few weeks ago I needed a tux or black suit pronto. I found a new, over 2k Armani for about 250 bucks in a remainder shop in Paris. I guess it "fell out the back of a truck" as we used to say. 😜

by Anonymousreply 77March 31, 2022 11:00 PM

My point, R69 was I no longer wish to have to think about an outfit every morning, and I dislike shopping for clothes for the most part. Years ago, I was much more of a clothes horse. I like looking stylish. I bought some vintage Gucci loafers last night and for now, I think the sweatshirts and button downs with jeans will be good. I have a few pairs of Stubbs and Wooten knockoffs that will keep things semi-interesting. R66, I think I have a decent sense of style. Which is why I will always be a turtleneck/blazer/denim sort in the winter. It's comfortable and I think I look good in it. R51, you TOTALLY cracked my ass up and I imagine the pain you must have felt at 5. I like a lot of your other suggestions too, so I will browse some more.

by Anonymousreply 78March 31, 2022 11:11 PM

Michael Kors always appeared sloppy to me, cheap ass jeans, white tee shirt, black blazer...always looked like he shopped at Ross.

by Anonymousreply 79March 31, 2022 11:43 PM

What is Ross?

Like David Schwimmer's character in Friends?

by Anonymousreply 80April 1, 2022 12:59 AM

Best Denim - Paige

Best Suits/Work Clothes - Theory/Paul Smith

Best Nice Athlisurewear - Vince - (their fits can be off so don't get it out outlets)

Best Sunglasses - Ray Ban Wayfarers or Persole - they never go out of style

Best Casual Shoes - Todds or Prada - they will last forever

Follow this advice and you can't go wrong. It's not cheap but it's also not inaccessible

by Anonymousreply 81April 1, 2022 3:07 AM

All I can tell you, OP, is that I have had better luck with socks and underwear from Muji than anywhere else. Solidly made and inexpensive.

by Anonymousreply 82April 1, 2022 3:09 AM

Muji clothing is for Asians. Their accessories like dop kits are acceptable.

by Anonymousreply 83April 1, 2022 3:15 AM

Ross is like TJ Max - with more water bottles and phone cases.

I’m still not falling for the twee cut suit. I’m over fifty; pants &shoes should be Brad Pitt in WHo Framed Roger Rabbit? Shirts should be knits Jeramy irons wore in Brideshead Revisited, and jackets - my dream is a well-repaired Issey Miyake chore jacket, but I make do with Helmut Lang denim - should change with the weather.

by Anonymousreply 84April 1, 2022 3:16 AM

[quote] Best Casual Shoes - Todds or Prada - they will last forever Follow this advice and you can't go wrong. It's not cheap but it's also not inaccessible

$750 dollars for Prada tennis shoes is NOT accessible to most people. You must make a shit load of money to be that out of touch to even say that.

by Anonymousreply 85April 1, 2022 3:29 AM

OP I work in design too, I’m interested in fashion but never wear my more ‘fun’ things to work, so I’ve also developed a kind of ‘uniform’ of sorts for work but I think of it as more of an informed sort of uniform. Levi’s jeans, vintage if possible. Always 501s. I wear plain cashmere sweaters or else the kind of ‘cool brand’ sweatshirts (Martine Rose, Aries, Telfar, Pacbet, GMBH etc.) always crewneck. Nike socks (for the athleisure nod) then rotate a few kind of fun belts (margiela, vintage, prada, Y/Project) and a real mix of good shoes and fun trainers (eckhaus latta, Prada, Margiela etc etc). If it sounds like I take it too seriously, I don’t really, it’s just for fun. But it’s nice not to be basic. Oh and a good leather backpack, I have a Guidi one.

by Anonymousreply 86April 1, 2022 3:52 AM

R76, would if I could afford it.

by Anonymousreply 87April 1, 2022 4:27 AM

This feels like it’s January and we have a group that wants to buy fitness at the gym.

You don’t put a wardrobe together in one season and you never buy this season. Unless you’re getting laid. Or having a need to shop.

Right now, you’re buying wool, corduroy, cashmere, and boots. You should start buying Spring/Summer in September.

Also, you know your body. Look around for your body twin and examine the way clothing moves with that body. Look for mistakes: pants too tight in the ass, pant breaks that look like pants are eating shoes, and Nehru collars that accentuate a turkey waddle. Oh, and never thank the person for serving as you fashion don’t.

by Anonymousreply 88April 1, 2022 5:36 AM

I change my look every five it six years m it used to be all black and dark greys. Now I'm into whites, creams, beige and sage.

by Anonymousreply 89April 1, 2022 8:29 AM

For most guys though R88, buying clothing is "damn, it's summer and those shorts have a hole in them, I probably need a new pair" or "it's really cold out and this ski jacket is getting kind of ratty. I really like it though, maybe they still make it"

It takes a Dedicated Follower of Fashion to plan far in advance

by Anonymousreply 90April 1, 2022 9:10 AM

R89 is a true work in progress.

by Anonymousreply 91April 1, 2022 7:37 PM

What about Wallace and Barnes? Any thoughts ? The design seems age appropriate. I’ve been buying J Crew and Banana Republic on eBay and I’ve gotten some great deals.

by Anonymousreply 93April 2, 2022 10:34 PM

Can anyone recommend a chino type pant that sits a little higher (not Clint Eastwood high) for wider hips/waist?

by Anonymousreply 94April 3, 2022 5:55 AM

R94, it’s still Polo with the stupid pony on the back pocket flap with average price $150. I’d also look at different Golf lines offered at Nike, Dick’s Sporting Goods, and REI - the cut is for active, older guys who don’t want to look silly.

by Anonymousreply 95April 3, 2022 6:19 AM

Travis Matthew (which I think is Mark Wahlbergs line) is like the Lululemon for straight upper middle class+ men. A lot of my friends who are in their late 30's-40's wear their polos and pants as everyday wear. It's basic but it's not bad looking. This is more suggestion for the eldergays who want to look decent, but have no fashion sense or the body to wear other things. I tried to post the link but it won't let me. I had to google "golf line w/ M logo".

by Anonymousreply 97April 3, 2022 4:41 PM

Blazers are the best because they give you four extra pockets above the waste.

Untucked shirts look slovenly.

Overweight people should avoid wearing knits.

Clip on suspenders are as acceptable on a man as a clip on tie is.

by Anonymousreply 98April 3, 2022 6:47 PM

Chore coats give you that plus hand warmers and a dead rabbit carrier in back.

A dark fitted half-zip in cotton looks good on anyone.

Painter’s cut pants are a medium rise, medium leg-width, lighter-weight alternative to denim or cargo. Painter’s overalls would be something with the right husband and project.

by Anonymousreply 99April 3, 2022 7:35 PM

*lesbian has entered the chat

by Anonymousreply 100April 3, 2022 9:41 PM

[quote]Blazers are the best because they give you four extra pockets above the waste.

Thanks Grandpa, welcome to 1960

[quote]Untucked shirts look slovenly.

OK Boomer

[quote]Overweight people should avoid wearing knits.

And fuzzy slippers with rabbit ears

[quote]Clip on suspenders are as acceptable on a man as a clip on tie is.

Let me get my spats and top hat to go with that.

by Anonymousreply 101April 4, 2022 5:00 AM

[quote] Blazers are the best because they give you four extra pockets above the waste.

I never cut open the pockets on my blazers. I need to look as slim as possible.

by Anonymousreply 102April 4, 2022 5:01 AM

Blazers are old man clothes. Stylish back in the day, like way back in the day. Dead giveaway you are an old fart stuck in the mud with dated fashion advice.

by Anonymousreply 103April 4, 2022 5:05 AM

"they give you four extra pockets above the waste."

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 104April 4, 2022 5:32 AM

I like Vince for everything - pants, shirts, shoes, leisure. They have great sales on their website and at Nordstroms. I never buy full price unless I really like something. The fit can sometimes be a little off (they run big), but once you know your size, I find that their sizing is pretty consistent across all categories.

by Anonymousreply 105April 4, 2022 6:02 AM

Does this guy look old to you, r103?

And knock it off with your ageism.

by Anonymousreply 106April 4, 2022 7:29 AM

It's not "ageism R106 when the OP asked about dressing better as an older gay man. Age is a part of that equation. Pointing out some of you giving him really bad advice that will make him look older and out of date is not ageist. That's what he's trying to avoid. Looking out of touch.

by Anonymousreply 107April 4, 2022 8:07 AM

As I don't know your budget or body shape, just stick to grey, black and some other color you like for Winter. Whenever you buy something make sure its one of those three colors (in any shade) and you'll look fine. Most people don't really know quality, but stick to natural fabrics as much as possible. They do look better overall, even if they are cheap.

Now when it comes to Summer, stick with tan, white and some other color you like. Repeat as above.

by Anonymousreply 108April 4, 2022 8:10 AM

No on the golf clothes.looks stupid on golfers… worse on those with no excuse.

by Anonymousreply 109April 4, 2022 8:11 AM

Yeah, golf clothes have never been good. Maybe 100 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 110April 4, 2022 11:21 AM

What replaced blazers, R103?

by Anonymousreply 111April 4, 2022 12:06 PM

R5 I feel like jeans are for straight older men. They seem to look out of place the last few years?

by Anonymousreply 112April 4, 2022 12:08 PM

Probably because everyone has been wearing sweatpants for the last few years R112 as most people were pretty much staying home.

"5 pocket pants" - cut like jeans but made out out of non-denim fabric in various colors - have been a Thing in the tech and media worlds for a while now--can be worn with a t-shirt or with a jacket and dress shirt

As seen in link, but pretty much every menswear brand makes a version

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by Anonymousreply 113April 4, 2022 12:29 PM

It is with your snide, “thanks, grandpa”, “OK Boomer”, “old fart” and spats, comment, r107. You could’ve given your advice without being condescending.

by Anonymousreply 114April 4, 2022 2:42 PM

[quote] Blazers are old man clothes. Stylish back in the day, like way back in the day. Dead giveaway you are an old fart stuck in the mud with dated fashion advice.

Among the many useful features of a blazer is its ability to conceal belly fat and love handles, which most older men have to some degree. The key to dressing well when you’re older is dressing more conservatively. Slim fit is for the young.

by Anonymousreply 115April 4, 2022 5:57 PM

Blazers can also give your shoulders some structure. I've worn suit jackets (separates) for years, for work. I don't have the ideal body, so it's not easy to find a flattering blazer.

My advice: the fit at the shoulders is the most important area of fit.

by Anonymousreply 116April 4, 2022 6:18 PM

Find a good tailor. Take everything you get to a tailor so that your shirts look made to measure and same with pants, even denim. Older men can wear anything, but it depends on your body type. OP, what's your body type and then it will be easier to assess.

by Anonymousreply 117April 5, 2022 2:14 AM

Blazers are like the mullet of men's fashion. Unless you are going to a wedding, 90% of most professional office jobs guys are wearing jeans and a t-shirt or chino's and a button down casual shirt. Maybe a cool looking casual trucker jacket but blazes reeks of old man style. Like lighting up a cigar in a conference room. It may seem like high class sophistication to you, but to everyone else it has a different connotation. Don't even get me started on neck ties, they are dead, dead, dead.

Before you flame me, I didn't say ALL businesses are like that. Obliviously the very conservative fields hold on the dress traditions longer than the general public, like lawyers, bankers and a few others.

by Anonymousreply 118April 5, 2022 12:40 PM

I only know about academia. Some dean types will wear a blazer, usually tieless. The provost and the president will wear a suit and tie, but not always. Everyone else is wearing their PJs.

by Anonymousreply 119April 5, 2022 12:51 PM

Nick Wooster in Florence. In a blazer.

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by Anonymousreply 120April 5, 2022 2:27 PM

Muji??? I guess you've forgotten all about Pearl Harbor.

by Anonymousreply 121April 5, 2022 2:38 PM

David Gandy, best dressed man in London

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by Anonymousreply 122April 5, 2022 2:39 PM

Brunello Cucinelli make the best blazers by far. Beautifully made and yet casual, very expensive but the best.

The reason people think that blazers are old fashioned is because these days most people dress like tramps. Just walk through any airport or down the high street, you feel overdressed if you are wearing socks and shoes.

by Anonymousreply 123April 5, 2022 7:21 PM

R118 Jeans, T-shirts and chinos might be popular, but they are boring. If you are happy dressing down and blending into the background with every other boringly dressed male then fine.

by Anonymousreply 124April 5, 2022 7:32 PM

Far more than their hetero peers, gay men who are overweight tend to wear clothing that is far too tight, stuff that is designed for a skinny 25 year old, not a portly 55 year old.

As someone noted above, there is a reason why baggy dress shirts and blazers are a thing among many older executives-they camouflage bulky bodies, or at least tend not to show them off.

by Anonymousreply 125April 5, 2022 7:41 PM

[quote] Guys, can we talk fashion for a bit?

Certainly we can!

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by Anonymousreply 126April 5, 2022 8:33 PM

Blazers are very hard to pull off (except as part of a suit), but if you can do it (see R122), I say go for it.

But I think a chore coat is the current equivalent.

by Anonymousreply 127April 5, 2022 11:20 PM

I used to take my shirts in for tailoring but then I realized it’s cheaper just to wear a tailored blazer instead in order to achieve that sharp, well fitted look. Fitted shirts are too constraining unless they have gussets, which really they shouldn’t. A linen or hopsack blazer is a godsend on a sweaty summer day. Keeps you looking fresh.

by Anonymousreply 128April 6, 2022 12:16 AM

You can absolutely pull of a blazer but it depends the setting. A nice fitted blazer that is very slim and structured like Theory or Prada looks great. It is ALL about the body. Amen R125 - this is a major no no - men who wear skin tight clothing without the body. I remember when I was a twink, eldergays wore Abercrombie and it just didn't work.

Also, another thing I would avoid if I was a portly elder gay is the old "man purse worn over the belly up front look". It does not camouflage anything and in fact draw attention to that area. I can understand that being a bit of a security blanket in a way, but it doesn't work unfortauntely.

by Anonymousreply 129April 6, 2022 2:33 AM

Blazers only work in cold environments. Try wearing one in an office in the south west for example. Even in California, if you work in any creative environment, most guys are wearing jeans and a button down or even just a t-shirt. That means the temp in the office is usually cranked up more than the old days when everyone wore a jacket and tie. And woman (who are not going through menopause) always seem to complain about it being too cold so they have no objection to warmer office temps.

[quote] "If you are happy dressing down and blending into the background with every other boringly dressed male then fine. "

It's about that. In an office they expect you to be part of a team. As my Boomer boss once said, "there is no " I" in team."

by Anonymousreply 130April 8, 2022 1:04 PM

I’m posting this jean video from Nordstrom because this voice puts the Kardashians to shame. You gotta hear it.

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by Anonymousreply 131April 8, 2022 11:59 PM

So I can see you have worked in retail before "how can you tell?" VOCAL FRYRRRRRRRRRR.

by Anonymousreply 132April 9, 2022 5:21 AM

Digging out this thread for hopefully helpful recommendations: Fifty-something here with a belly that develops into 'hard-to-ignore' territory.

For t-shirts I like one of those thousand online brands, True Classic. I do buy into their claim that their t-shirts have the best shape for 'dad-bods'. And they keep their structure. I tried one of their polos, too. But they're really just t-shirts with collar. The shape is fine but the fabric is way too thin for a polo.

Upthread somebody advised to find a body-twin and learn from their looks. Is there a website that could help with that by any chance?

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by Anonymousreply 133June 6, 2022 12:40 PM

OP You’re almost 50 and still have not figured this out?

by Anonymousreply 134June 6, 2022 12:41 PM

r134 is everybody's spinster aunt who cannot do anything but nagging. Blocked.

by Anonymousreply 135June 6, 2022 1:12 PM

OP, invest in a time machine.

You can never go wrong with a shadow plaid vest and thermal henley!

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by Anonymousreply 136June 6, 2022 1:25 PM

Ew, the OP is bisexual.

No more time wasted here.

by Anonymousreply 137June 6, 2022 1:56 PM

Stitch fix is geared towards younger people who work in casual environments. I tried them but it was all too casual.

by Anonymousreply 138June 6, 2022 2:04 PM

I've adopted various chore coats and wider leg painters pants as my go to. It's the most comfortable I've felt in my clothes in years. Chore coats give me the extra pockets for my glasses. I usually wear Ecco leather tennis shoes, navy or brown...not really tennis shoes. I'm also going for a slightly shorter inseam not necessarily ankle bearing. It's still difficult to find clothes that aren't slim or skinny, so over all of that, but people are still buying it. I'm retired, 60, 5'10" 175, desperately trying to drop the 15 extra covid pounds.

by Anonymousreply 139June 6, 2022 2:57 PM

R135 You’re also 50 and have a thin skin. Arguably worse than being 50 and not knowing what clothing looks good on you. Good luck with finding the right washable daywear separates.

by Anonymousreply 140June 6, 2022 4:07 PM

[quote] Took me awhile to figure out that at my age, no one is looking at my wardrobe.

Very true. At 50+ even my gay peers don't notice what I wear.

by Anonymousreply 141June 6, 2022 4:45 PM

Having a decent haircut, shaving, staying trim and healthy is equally or maybe more important than wardrobe.

by Anonymousreply 142June 6, 2022 4:51 PM

[quote] At 50+ even my gay peers don't notice what I wear.

I would notice. Of course being just human, I'd notice first what doesn't work. If the guy wears a super tight t-shirt even though he's 20 lbs overweight, yeah, I notice. I also notice bad grooming like crummy feet in flip-flops.

However, I also notice those (very) few exceptions where a man looks very well put together without being overstyled. I think over-styling is just as disastrous as not caring at all. What probably remains unnoticed is the middle-ground where nothing is wrong, but nothing stands out either.

by Anonymousreply 143June 6, 2022 7:01 PM

If you’re fat, avoid knitwear.

by Anonymousreply 144June 6, 2022 11:46 PM

Leather jacket, henley and jeans.

by Anonymousreply 145June 7, 2022 12:22 AM

Uh, sure OP. Looks great for work. If you’re a homeless lesbian.

by Anonymousreply 146June 7, 2022 12:42 AM

[quote] I found a new, over 2k Armani for about 250 bucks in a remainder shop in Paris. I guess it "fell out the back of a truck" as we used to say. 😜

Uh, no. Wishful thinking. You bought a fake. I guess it's a "replica" as we used to say.

by Anonymousreply 147August 28, 2022 12:42 AM

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