California ain't scared of NY.
| by Anonymous | reply 1 | January 23, 2024 9:09 AM |
I've been saying for a long time that the the Left has got to start punching back. We need more crazies like MTG and Gym Jordan on our team. Gavin Newsom is great, but he can't do it alone
| by Anonymous | reply 2 | January 23, 2024 9:23 AM |
We need more Miss Jasmine, SHE'S our secret weapon š
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 3 | January 23, 2024 9:34 AM |
Look at Bill Maher's stupid-ass face after Gavin schools him at 4:41!
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | January 23, 2024 9:42 AM |
He didn't "school" him. If you watch the video of the interview, at the start Bill says he thinks Gavin should run for President.
I think so, too.
| by Anonymous | reply 5 | January 23, 2024 9:51 AM |
An actual Bill Maher quote: ""I feel like the last couple of years, you've purposely picked this fight with the red states."
What the fuck is he even talking about?
| by Anonymous | reply 6 | January 23, 2024 9:51 AM |
R6, Gavin has gone after DeSantis. Pointedly. The two of them even had a weird debate a while back and Gavin wiped the floor with Ronnie/
(Maher was complimenting him btw. He likes Gavin and thinks he should be the one running for president.)
| by Anonymous | reply 7 | January 23, 2024 9:57 AM |
Bill has been turning into a real Repug the last few years but still pretends to be a progressive / independent or whatever the fuck he can play both sides game of.
| by Anonymous | reply 8 | January 23, 2024 9:57 AM |
R8, yeah, that's the sense that I've got from him recently.
I liked him back in the 2000s.
I think he's a fucking Republican apologist prick now.
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | January 23, 2024 9:59 AM |
When did it become wrong to acknowledge two sides to an issue? Do people really believe that itās wrong to acknowledge a different viewpoint and the reasoning behind it, or is it just a tactic? In addition to being divisive, it seems like a shitty tactic. Acknowledging another personās viewpoint is how you WIN an argument.
Iām not talking about Bill Maher. Iām nit familiar with him. Iām just asking when throwing āBOTH SIDES!ā at someone became a damning pejorative. It seems like the height of stupidity to me, but maybe Iām missing some nuance.
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | January 23, 2024 12:25 PM |
It is stupid and itās keeping us stuck.
| by Anonymous | reply 11 | January 23, 2024 12:32 PM |
@r10, "When did it become wrong to acknowledge two sides to an issue? "
When one side decided to sell it's soul to the devil. Debate and compromise turned into a war for survival
| by Anonymous | reply 12 | January 23, 2024 12:54 PM |
Dec 7 2024 The DL
āWe should have had newsom on the ticketā¦.things might have turned out differentā
The Dems are so confident they donāt even run their best people.
| by Anonymous | reply 13 | January 23, 2024 1:01 PM |
^ The best person for the job is already in the White House, Miss Michigan š
| by Anonymous | reply 14 | January 23, 2024 1:06 PM |
R12, that just makes me think you havenāt bothered to consider their perspective. Iām NOT saying the perspective you disagree with is correct. Letās assume itās incorrect. But they probably have rational, non-evil reasons for holding it.
Not always. Some people believe terrible things. Sometimes a lot of people believe terrible things. And sometimes a huge percentage of people DO bad things. But when you are taking about a significant percentage of people, they usually have a reason that is rational. That doesnāt mean other considerations donāt make that rational reason based on limited information incorrect or ethically wrong.
I support abortion 100%. No restrictions? Good. You want my tax dollars to pay for it? Fine. Itās going to cost extra for the 8.5 month abortions? Fine. But I donāt think someone who argues that if itās wrong to kill a newborn, then itās wrong to abort a fetus is irrational. I have no sympathy for anyone who tries to blow up an abortion clinic or intimidate a woman seeking medical care. But I respect their belief that abortion is wrong and I understand that they think they are doing the right thing. If you think you are doing the right thing, you probably arenāt evil. Itās more likely your thinking is a little twisted. But you might be evil. Not everything can be excused. If you blow up an abortion clinic during business hours you are evil. Hitler was evil. A lot of Germans did the wrong thing. A smaller subset were evil. A pretty big subset, according to my late father whose unit liberated a concentration camp. And it want even one of the worst ones. It was the denial of the locals that got to him.
I think a lot of people look at anti-abortionists as evil because they want to control a womanās body. But the core argument is that the fetus is a person, too. And making one person bear a child is a lesser harm that killing another person. You canāt win someone over if you ignore that. And you CAN win people over who believe that because a lot are willing to draw the line at 12 weeks or whatever, even though the logic of that isnāt as clean.
Now, do the politicians who are against abortion sincerely believe itās murder? No. Most are hypocritical assholes who know they can get an illegal abortions for their own daughters and mistresses. They are just lying to get elected.
I think the right argument is to point this out. To wonder aloud why so few conservative politiciansā daughters get in trouble. To compile real statistics on late term abortions to demonstrate that people arenāt getting abortions because a baby has a club foot. To point out that a woman carrying a heathy seven month fetus could wait another two months and then get a five figure check to cover āexpensesā in an adoption proceeding.
But to just have the opinion that someone who doesnāt want other people to have abortions is evil? I donāt think that is rational or productive.
| by Anonymous | reply 15 | January 23, 2024 1:36 PM |
Trump is NOT going to make abortion a major issue in 2024. He will do everything he can and the gop will do everything they can to not make abortion an issue. Wink wink wink to those in the know.
They will quietly wink then sayāāitās a states issue let the states decide.
| by Anonymous | reply 16 | January 23, 2024 1:42 PM |
She was fantastic R3. Very well put together too.
| by Anonymous | reply 17 | January 23, 2024 1:47 PM |
Here is the whole segment.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 18 | January 23, 2024 1:48 PM |
You beat me to it R18.
I didn't understand OP's "Gavin Newsom kicks Bill Maher's butt" when Maher has wanted him to run for president for some time.
| by Anonymous | reply 19 | January 23, 2024 1:52 PM |
Neither the OP nor the reporter got it right; Maher is a Newsom fan. The reporter made much of Maher calling Newsom " kinda mean," but neglected to add," And we need that," which changes the entire premise. I have been begging the Dems to get tough and Newsom has done that. Now, if the rest of the Dems would get off their lazy butts and fight, people might actually listen. But, as long as it's Trump and his sycophants 24/7, the Dems will be too late in articulating a message.
| by Anonymous | reply 20 | January 23, 2024 2:03 PM |
Many people just want mutual dick-sucking when they watch political interviews, not an actual discussion.
| by Anonymous | reply 21 | January 23, 2024 2:11 PM |
The American people in general and measured in surveys do not want to see Trump or Biden on the tickets. Newsom has his work cut out for him getting Dems excited about Joe. Getting Dems excited about Trump is more doable
And I say this believing that biden has been a great potus. But excitement for Biden Harris? That was the news from 4 years ago.
| by Anonymous | reply 22 | January 23, 2024 2:14 PM |
@r15, One more time, because I think you're a bit slow, there are no "both sides" when it comes to personal, civil and equal rights and that includes, but not limited to...
The rights of a woman to choose
LBGT rights
Rights of POC
The rights of immigrants, legal or not, to be treated humanely
The right for all Americans to have free/affordable health care
The right for children to have a proper education that will keep them competitive with other free countries
The continued preservation of Social Security and anti-child labor laws
The right to clean air and water for future generations
And most of all the freedom FROM religion
There are no "both sides" to these issues
| by Anonymous | reply 23 | January 23, 2024 2:16 PM |
R23
I so agree
And when it rains it will always rain after sundown. And there will be world peace. And hopefully lower taxes. And everyone will be able to have their own home they can buy at a great price. The future is going to be really great.
Dems and GOP working together in a stable democracy to make things better is right around the corner
| by Anonymous | reply 24 | January 23, 2024 2:27 PM |
^ Because half the voters are stupid, hence the need for a good education, get it?
| by Anonymous | reply 25 | January 23, 2024 2:45 PM |
R25
One half of the voters do think the other half is stupid. A threat to the country. And the great thing is no matter which side you on on the problem is totally the other morons.
But liberals claiming all we need is better education makes them just as smart as their opposition.
| by Anonymous | reply 26 | January 23, 2024 4:17 PM |
R5 Maher goes on to say āDam youāre goodā after a certain response. And he is good. I donāt think he will play well in flyover. They donāt like pretty white people who talk that liberal talk real well and articulate but if he can get traditional coalitions to come out in good force. He is so fkin charismatic and fine.
| by Anonymous | reply 28 | January 23, 2024 6:20 PM |
Newsom's biggest flaw is that he was married to this thing... š¬
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 29 | January 23, 2024 6:47 PM |
Oh yes because the country really cares who you were once married to back in the day then divorced. I realize this is a major issue with you or someone else who constantly makes this point. For the rest of the country they pretty much wonāt give a shit.
R29
| by Anonymous | reply 30 | January 23, 2024 6:55 PM |
R10 Some issues really don't have "both sides" or where both sides have merit.
And also, there's rarely utterly two sides to an issue.....it's more like a cloud, or a continuum. Unfortunately, media and harsh partisan politics reduces it to two sides, and people get militant about it as if they're fighting over a football team. Most issues are way more nuanced than that, though.
| by Anonymous | reply 31 | January 23, 2024 7:10 PM |
@r30, So sorry you don't understand sarcasm...
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 32 | January 23, 2024 7:21 PM |
Gavin Newsom for president in 2028!! Smart as hell and can defeat any Repig.
| by Anonymous | reply 33 | January 23, 2024 7:25 PM |
[quote]I think a lot of people look at anti-abortionists as evil because they want to control a womanās body. But the core argument is that the fetus is a person, too. And making one person bear a child is a lesser harm that killing another person. You canāt win someone over if you ignore that. And you CAN win people over who believe that because a lot are willing to draw the lin [more]
Oh brother.
| by Anonymous | reply 34 | January 23, 2024 7:47 PM |
^ "I think a lot of people look at anti-abortionists as evil because they want to control a womanās body. But ..."
This is all you need to know about that dickhead
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 35 | January 23, 2024 7:57 PM |
R32
Donāt blame me someone has made that same point over and over again in DL posts every time newsom is brought up..
Some times on DL itās pretty hard to see the difference between sarcasm vs stupid.
| by Anonymous | reply 36 | January 23, 2024 8:06 PM |
Gavin was dismissed for years as a pretty boy with no substance, but he's actually a policy wonk who can cite numbers and stats for days. I like him but I don't know if Dee Plorable and friends would ever warm to him.
| by Anonymous | reply 37 | January 23, 2024 8:44 PM |
The objection to "both sides" isn't that some issues don't really have two sides. The objection is to false equivalence: the obsessive need for the Washington press corps especially to find a crazy Democrat, any crazy Democrat, anybody in any place or on any platform, hell, just any leftist, to match the crazy bullshit constantly streaming from Trump, his cult members, Republicans in Congress and Republicans in state government. The traditional ideal in journalism was that everybody must be equally at fault and you are simply not allowed to say the Republican Party seems to be having a crazy ass meltdown, even though it completely and obviously is under the cultish leadership of Trump. You are only allowed to say that "Congress" is being crazy or "Washington" is gridlocked or some shit like that.
THAT is the objection to the phrase.
| by Anonymous | reply 38 | January 23, 2024 8:58 PM |
^ Yeah, it's pretty tough when all the crazies are on the same team
"False equivalence" = "Both sides" when there is no reasonable objection
| by Anonymous | reply 39 | January 23, 2024 9:08 PM |
The real question: is Gavin's cock as big and thick as Hunter's?
| by Anonymous | reply 40 | January 23, 2024 9:15 PM |
^ I really what the answer to this...
KIMBERLY! We need your expertise, stat
| by Anonymous | reply 41 | January 23, 2024 9:19 PM |
[quote] Hitler was evil. A lot of Germans did the wrong thing. A smaller subset were evil. A pretty big subset, according to my late father whose unit liberated a concentration camp. And it want even one of the worst ones. It was the denial of the locals that got to him.
Great, here's what you are missing in all that, including what your father was trying to tell you. There really was one side that was infinitely worse than the other side and all other sides. Matching stories about Nazis wanting to kill every Jew in the country with stories about Social Democrats wanting to soak the rich with taxes would be a "both sides are being kind of extreme" story that the media lives for. That is the problem. Pretending that everyone is basically equally at fault in all situations and nobody is allowed to look at one party and say: There are some evil fucks with incredibly fucked up ideas. That is what is going on with the obsessive "Both sides" school of journalism.
| by Anonymous | reply 42 | January 23, 2024 9:19 PM |
R42
Nazis are better compared to Bolshevikās rather than some party that wants to tax the rich. Far left and far right govts both killing millions and millions of people.. both beyond brutal and inhumane. Both with followers who would kill and die.
| by Anonymous | reply 43 | January 23, 2024 9:27 PM |
Well, at least we know where you are coming from r43, and yes, you should be a proud member of the Trump Cult. They are perfect for you.
| by Anonymous | reply 44 | January 23, 2024 9:28 PM |
R44
You must be young. Joe Stalin was one of the worst most inhumane worst leaders in world history. He killed millions of his own citizens. Killed and tortured millions.
Knowing history does not make one a MAGA except to the youngsters who post here at DL.
| by Anonymous | reply 45 | January 23, 2024 9:35 PM |
No, that's true. Knowing history is not what makes you MAGA r45. It's your fondness for Nazis and your belief that killing millions of people is somehow better than taxing the rich.
| by Anonymous | reply 46 | January 23, 2024 9:39 PM |
R46
You are arguing or discussing with two different people.
Comparing those who want to tax the rich with those who kill millions is stupid. That is my only point.
Now comparing one left wing killer of millions with a right wing killer of millions that does make sense.
Now I will let you get back arguing taxes with whoever that poster was.
| by Anonymous | reply 47 | January 23, 2024 9:55 PM |
A tear for the poor rich people who *gasp* might have to pay even a small share of what they consume and use?
Eat a bucket of nails and glass, R43.
| by Anonymous | reply 48 | January 23, 2024 10:01 PM |
Newsom is such a sleaze bag. But he is a (smart, handsome, sane) version of Trump. BIG image. TV and meme ready. AGGRESSIVE and pushy.
And he is brilliant on TV. He needs to run for President. His quick, on topic, data-filled responses to any question or criticism. At this point in his career, he can't be stumped.
What a fucking sleaze ball.... and I love it. Push back, take control of the narrative, take up all the air in the room. You go boy.
| by Anonymous | reply 49 | January 23, 2024 10:01 PM |
Fine r47, and sorry for confusing you with the other poster, but here actually is the essence of the Both Sides Doctrine: that if one side is calling for the extermination of Jews and the other side is calling for high taxes on the rich, the Sacred Doctrine of Both Sides Do It requires that both be equally at fault and equally dangerous. That is because the Sacred Doctrine does not ever allow for one side to actually be significantly worse than the other.
And leaving all Nazis and Stalinists aside, that is what we have in a lot of coverage of Trump and a lot of coverage of the Republican Party. The crazier they get, the more the media has to normalize them or pretend that everyone's crazy because the horrifying alternative is that one side might actually be worse, and their whole dogma forbids that. Everybody must ALWAYS be equally wrong and equally at fault.
| by Anonymous | reply 50 | January 23, 2024 10:02 PM |
[quote] This is why we like him.
No, we donāt.
| by Anonymous | reply 51 | January 23, 2024 10:04 PM |
R51 Lots of us do like him.... more and more every year.
| by Anonymous | reply 52 | January 23, 2024 10:05 PM |
I will have liked him the most if Biden and the Dems fuck up this election,
| by Anonymous | reply 54 | January 23, 2024 10:24 PM |
People left California in droves. A small one-story house costs over a million dollars in suburban Los Angeles. People are living in their cars. I know! Let's elevate the governor of that state!
| by Anonymous | reply 55 | January 23, 2024 10:52 PM |
Lol, r55, always trolling.
| by Anonymous | reply 56 | January 23, 2024 10:57 PM |
R55 Hon, those are the talking points from a couple years ago. You need to keep up.
| by Anonymous | reply 57 | January 23, 2024 10:59 PM |
Too often forgotten is that Gavin was a pioneer for gay marriage when it could have cost him his political career. Twenty years ago he ordered the San Francisco clerk to begin issuing same-sex marriage licenses. He's been a consistent friend to the LGB community and I'd hope they'd have his back when he runs for Prez.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 58 | January 23, 2024 11:37 PM |
Bill is a big Newsom fan.
| by Anonymous | reply 59 | January 23, 2024 11:42 PM |
I think a liberal Democrat from California could have some hurdles around the country, but if anybody can overcome those, I think it would be Gavin Newsom. I agree he was very good on Bill Maher's show, which can be difficult, dealing with his nonsense and obsessions.
| by Anonymous | reply 60 | January 23, 2024 11:50 PM |
I have lived in California all my life; now it is a sewer, full of illegal immigrants and running a sixty-eight billion dollar deficit. I fucking hate Democrats.
| by Anonymous | reply 61 | January 23, 2024 11:50 PM |
I have lived in California all my life; now it is a modern, efficient, and forward thinking group of residents. I love the mix of people here; immigrants from around the world add to the cultural interest and surely amp up our economy, fifth largest in the world. I love the mountains, and the deserts, and the coastline. Big Sur, for example, is heaven, a paradise. Our deficit is due to our dependence on income tax as central revenue stream - our property taxes are, proportionately, among the lowest in the nation. I wish Republicans were a bit more skilled and solution-oriented: essentially we are a one part state and we'd be better if Republicans got their shit together.
| by Anonymous | reply 62 | January 24, 2024 12:00 AM |
[quote]I have lived in California all my life
Lol, sure, r61...sure.
| by Anonymous | reply 63 | January 24, 2024 12:03 AM |
I'm a black, Gay democrat who's lived in California my whole life, but I'm voting republican, because... Blah, blah, bullshit!
| by Anonymous | reply 64 | January 24, 2024 12:15 AM |
[quote]When did it become wrong to acknowledge two sides to an issue? Acknowledging another personās viewpoint is how you WIN an argument.... It seems like the height of stupidity to me, but maybe Iām missing some nuance.
It's good to have an open mind and listen to both sides, but when one have become obvious truth, continuing to give both sides equal weight is disingenuous intellectual conversation allowing contrarian views to be regarded as more important that the actual facts or truth. Example: The world is not both round and flat, depending on personal opinion, it's a proven fact it's round or more accurate term spherical. Joe Biden won the election with 7 million more votes and electoral college, there is no proof of massive voter fraud, it's not an opinion. Barack Obama was born in the U.S., it's a proven fact with authenticated hospital records, news article and witnesses.
When you allow people to ignore the facts just to be a contrarian, you perpetuate false beliefs and lies. So when you give both sides in that case equal time, you are in effect enabling the lie to live on which just dilutes the actual truth. Which is the goal in most cases when people play that game. That's why 50% of Republicans still think Biden didn't win the election.
That's exactly with Bill Maher is doing. Elevating both sides to perpetuate falsity so he can continue to make money by keeping people watching his show.
| by Anonymous | reply 65 | January 24, 2024 8:42 AM |
[quote] I wish Republicans were a bit more skilled and solution-oriented: essentially we are a one part state and we'd be better if Republicans got their shit together.
No we would not. It's because of Republicans in the 70's that California ended up with ugly oil wells off the coast which resulted in several massive spills that took years to clean up. It's because of Republicans they built a nuclear power plants close to a fault line near San Diego which has finally been shut down.
| by Anonymous | reply 66 | January 24, 2024 8:50 AM |
@r65, Very nicely and understandably well put š
| by Anonymous | reply 67 | January 24, 2024 8:56 AM |
[quote]I have lived in California all my life; now it is a sewer, full of illegal immigrants and running a sixty-eight billion dollar deficit. I fucking hate Democrats.
Drama queen much? It's not a sewer, if it were, housing prices would be the cheapest in the nation not one of the highest. Facts don't lie, it's location, location, location and CA is still one of the highest prized locations to live in. The deficit, which almost all states have is just a drop in the bucket if you understand economics that CA produces the highest GDP in the nation at 3.5 TRILLION per year. Even Texas with their oil cant compete.
Also, if you hate it that much, you have 49 other states to choose from. Stop whining about it, get off your ass and move.
| by Anonymous | reply 68 | January 24, 2024 9:07 AM |
R65, it is even more accurate to say that the earth is an oblate spheroid
| by Anonymous | reply 69 | January 24, 2024 8:54 PM |
Gavin Newsom = Lori Lightfoot
| by Anonymous | reply 70 | January 24, 2024 11:05 PM |
Gavinās current girlfriend is a far Right winger just like his last one. Heās a drunk, an adulterer, and a pos. He fucks his staff.
| by Anonymous | reply 71 | January 24, 2024 11:06 PM |
Gavin sent Californiaās economy into the toilet.
| by Anonymous | reply 72 | January 24, 2024 11:06 PM |
That was Arnold Schwarzenegger R72. Took it from the black into the red. Then another Dem had to get back into power and return it back to normal. Republicans are bad for the economy. It's a fact no matter how much they try to blame the other side.
| by Anonymous | reply 73 | January 25, 2024 2:06 AM |
[quote] Gavinās current girlfriend is a far Right winger just like his last one.
Nope, she renounced that way back in 2008 before Trump even was talking about running. She did it the same year they got engaged. That tells me she's like a lot of women who fallow their husbands ideology once the ring is on. I am ok with that, how she got there is not a problem as long as she's fully grounded in the same belief system.
| by Anonymous | reply 74 | January 25, 2024 2:34 AM |
Just to shine a little light on the issue, and to call out the expected and relentless trolling by the MAGA cult, California's finances are not like other states. We primarily receive government funding from income taxes, not property, sales, or the other revenue streams more common in other states. This creates a usual boom/bust cycle. (The state deficit, like the federal deficit, always increases when there is a Republican governor). Several years ago under Gov Brown the legislature finally addressed the boom/bust pattern by requiring a certain percentage of the revenue to be put into a "rainy day fund."
2022 saw a record budget surplus. There is a huge drop in income taxes projected for the next fiscal year. There will be a significant deficit... however the state surplus, by fall 2023, was well in excess of 100 Billion.
Newsom, scuzzy douche-bro that he is, would make a great President.
| by Anonymous | reply 75 | January 25, 2024 5:22 AM |
Newsom and Whitmer will be the next Democratic ticket and would be this year if fat boy would just go away. Biden is just saving us again but would happily step down if he thought the orange devil wasn't running.
| by Anonymous | reply 76 | January 25, 2024 5:38 AM |
According to my straight friends, psyco-bitches are the most fun in bed, they do things regular women will not and do so with fervor. They are crazy AF but they give good head. So it kind of makes sense that Gavin dates Republican woman, they are all psyco-bitches.
| by Anonymous | reply 77 | January 25, 2024 5:38 AM |
Can someone make it make sense what the cunt at r76 wrote. That is an absurd argument.
| by Anonymous | reply 78 | January 25, 2024 10:46 AM |
Not R76
But itās a clear argument that has been made many times before by others. It may have been made by Joe. Biden an old man who should be done and retired making another run strictly because trump also an old man who should be retired is making another run,
If some younger gop was running Joe would not be
R78
| by Anonymous | reply 79 | January 25, 2024 11:03 AM |
R79 Donāt fuck with me cunt. You hypocritical bitch. You soft fucking fuck.
| by Anonymous | reply 80 | January 25, 2024 11:25 AM |
R80
Well played Tea man.. You come off so sane and stable and mentally healthy in your posts.
Iād cut down on the PnP though it does mess up some of your posts. Especially those whining about you not being white enough or your friends thinking you are trying to pass, or having crummy black parents. Those make you sound a little nuts.
OK for some of your posts ālittleā is not the correct word.
| by Anonymous | reply 81 | January 25, 2024 11:57 AM |
R81 I āmurderedā two motherfukers just like you. Haha and Iāll do it again.
| by Anonymous | reply 82 | January 25, 2024 12:57 PM |
R82
Kids meth and PnP is the devils path to ruin. Please try to resist. I realize for some itās far too late.
| by Anonymous | reply 83 | January 25, 2024 1:09 PM |
Because, r10, there is never anything "right" or decent or helpful or honest or ethical about any Republican position.
Prove me wrong.
| by Anonymous | reply 84 | January 25, 2024 1:24 PM |
@r71, " He fucks his staff. "
Is he hiring?... Asking for myself
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 85 | January 25, 2024 1:43 PM |
R84
That is why only 25% of registered voters are GOP. Just 25%. how pathetic is that?
| by Anonymous | reply 86 | January 25, 2024 2:21 PM |
Lucky staff. I would love to fuck him!!!
| by Anonymous | reply 87 | January 25, 2024 2:26 PM |
My *dream* ticket is Gavin and Gretchen. I do acknowledge that this will be an issue (rightly so) for people of color. I want a POC on the ticket too ā perhaps there is someone out there who has the potential that I just donāt have on my radar. But I believe Gavin/Gretchen is a *grand slam* ticket. Undefeatable in my opinion, Dems could literally just trot to victory with that ticket. Josh Shapiro is at the top of my list too. No idea if heās ready to compete on a Presidential ticket, but I do also adore the Senator from GA, Raphael Warnock too. I donāt recall her name, but the scrappy young black woman who was bitch-slapping Rethugs during hearings a week or two ago, she has huge potential to me, but sheās still very young, likely needs just a few more years of experience and fine-tuning, but sheās aggressive and tough as hell.
| by Anonymous | reply 88 | January 25, 2024 4:42 PM |
[quote] But I believe Gavin/Gretchen is a *grand slam* ticket.
Unless this country changes dramatically in the next four years, there are no "grand slam" tickets possible. It'll be the same dreary damn slog it always is, winning over just enough votes in swing states to get an electoral victory.
UNLESS Texas finally does that turning blue thing that's been talked about for decades.
| by Anonymous | reply 89 | January 25, 2024 5:00 PM |
R89, I completely and passionately disagree. It has been soooooo long that Americans have heard leaders who are aggressive and who know how to cast a vision. I believe they would sweep up all of the Independents.
| by Anonymous | reply 90 | January 25, 2024 5:15 PM |
R88
You are correct about it being a dream ticket. You would have to do something truly important and. significant with the VP. And that would be tricky.
| by Anonymous | reply 91 | January 25, 2024 5:18 PM |
R91 Harris on the Supreme Court, next opening (or, less likely but possible, raising the number of justices to 11 - Congress has the authority to do that). Undeniably it'd hard for Newsom/Whitmer to be the ticket if Kamala was in the mix.
| by Anonymous | reply 92 | January 25, 2024 5:52 PM |
Be great if she replaced Clarence Thomas r92. But of course this is all fantasy. I suspect she wants to stay as VP and run in 2028.
| by Anonymous | reply 93 | January 25, 2024 5:57 PM |
[quote]Bill is a big Newsom fan
Iāve never seen him so enchanted by a guest. I bet Maher literal sucked Newsomās cock in a secluded area after the interview.
| by Anonymous | reply 94 | January 25, 2024 6:04 PM |
[quote]I donāt recall her name, but the scrappy young black woman who was bitch-slapping Rethugs during hearings a week or two ago, she has huge potential to me, but sheās still very young, likely needs just a few more years of experience and fine-tuning, but sheās aggressive and tough as hell.
Jasmine Crockett. She's one to watch. Same with Justin Jones, whom I adore.
| by Anonymous | reply 95 | January 26, 2024 12:44 AM |
Hope Hicks probably dreams of fucking Newsom. She loves political cock. And if it's hot it's an extra bonus.
| by Anonymous | reply 96 | January 26, 2024 6:19 AM |
[quote]When did it become wrong to acknowledge two sides to an issue?
When there aren't fucking two valid sides to the issue, dumbass R10.
Republicans don't have a valid point of view or side. They're just fucking wrong. Facts don't have "two sides". Issues like racism, slavery, misogyny, ... none of those have two sides. Trying to pretend there ARE two valid sides to such issues is why this country is so fucked up.
| by Anonymous | reply 98 | January 26, 2024 6:35 AM |
When the kneejerk response to pointing out the FACT that Republicans are pathologically lying criminally corrupt conmen, frauds, sexual predators, abusive bullies, and seditious traitors is "But but but... BOTH SIDES!", that's when "both sides" is a problem. Trying to deflect from the very real crimes, incompetence, bigotry, and treason of the right-wingers in this country by moving goal posts and shifting attention to imagined or irrelevant "flaws" in the center-left is just insanity. It's wrong. It's a bunch of logical fallacies ("False equivalence" being a big one) all rolled up into one. It doesn't enlighten, it obscures. It makes excuses for the worst side, while raising the bar so high on the good side that there's no way anyone can clear it.
When you hear someone shouting "Both sides!" know only that they're dishonest willfully ignorant trolls who aren't interested in debate or argument, just in shifting blame from those who deserve it to those who don't (but who they hate more anyway for "reasons").
| by Anonymous | reply 99 | January 26, 2024 6:44 AM |
I want him! Any info on his size meat?
| by Anonymous | reply 101 | January 31, 2024 10:57 PM |
Bill Maher's perception on politics and society has been devolving even before the COVID lockdown. It's became obvious to me once the show returned that the isolation did a number on him. He was giving a lot more weight and attention to the absurdity of the far left woke idiocy than the right wing fascism, Trump's coup attempt, and the MAGA anti-Democracy agenda. This is what happens when you don't have any person close to you who can call you out on your bullshit. I was a regular viewer of Real Time since it started on HBO. Last year he even said he got rid of the audiences who would moan or boo, so he now lives in an echo chamber of ditto-heads and sycophants. I couldn't take his attitude any more and stopped watching early last year. I watched a couple of his Club Random shows because of the guests he had on, and it was even worse. He's become unwatchable.
| by Anonymous | reply 102 | January 31, 2024 11:14 PM |
R95, thank you, YES, it was Jasmine Crockett I was describing!! I wanted to whoop and holler listening to her take out their balls, put them on a cutting board, and slice off their testicles, one at a time, with a one minute speech in between each ball being sliced off! She is *amazing*. I will look up the other name you posted.
Even though we only see the elders getting all the press, the truth is that the Dems have a loooooong and wide bench of unbelievable talent coming up. Maybe Gen Z and Millennials will indeed save this country, Iām Gen X, weāve got some talent out there too (Gavin and Gretchen and Shapiro to name a few). I only wish the party elders would elevate them even more, we need them right fucking now.
| by Anonymous | reply 103 | January 31, 2024 11:52 PM |
Elder Joe Biden elevated Gen-Xer Kamala Harris. Neither gets enough credit.
| by Anonymous | reply 104 | February 1, 2024 12:09 AM |
True r104. And Nancy elevated Hakeem, who is hot AF.
| by Anonymous | reply 105 | February 1, 2024 2:29 AM |
