Did Audrey Hepburn ever forgive Leslie Caron?

For replacing her in Gigi?

Audrey had originated the role on Broadway, but Miss Caron nabbed the screen version.

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by Anonymousreply 45March 25, 2021 6:58 PM

My first trip to Paris in the 1990s and I was sitting my first morning at a lovely and typical outdoor cafe on the Champs-Elysees having an espresso and croissant and who strolled by?

Leslie Caron, wearing an elegant long woolen cape with a matching scarf. It couldn't have been a more appropriate welcome to the city.

by Anonymousreply 1March 17, 2021 7:31 PM

Audrey was in a non-musical version.

Did Caron do her own singing or was she dubbed?

by Anonymousreply 2March 17, 2021 7:38 PM

Maybe she felt a bit like I did with "My Fair Lady," the scrawny Belgian bitch.

by Anonymousreply 3March 17, 2021 7:44 PM

Gosh, R1. How sweet.

My last trip to Panama City afforded me a similar look of April Carrion, wearing the exact same thing!

by Anonymousreply 4March 17, 2021 7:46 PM

She was born in France but did she mainly work in America? I ask because looking at her IMDB page, she received two Oscar nominations and won several other awards but no Cesar nods. Very strange for a well known "French" actress like her.

by Anonymousreply 5March 17, 2021 7:52 PM

Shit happens. What did you expect? You're dealing with "Little Girls'.

by Anonymousreply 7March 17, 2021 7:55 PM

Auds never did forgive Leslie. It’s well known she snuck into the latter’s dressing room several times and shit in her wigs.

In fact, the harassment continued for years.

by Anonymousreply 8March 17, 2021 10:43 PM

I can't imagine she would even eat enough food to create that much feces.

by Anonymousreply 9March 17, 2021 10:51 PM

Leslie was dubbed in Gigi. Audrey was in high demand around the time Gigi was made so I doubt she even cared.

by Anonymousreply 10March 18, 2021 2:47 AM

[quote] Audrey was in high demand

Absolutely every producer in the world wanted her from 1954 until 1964.

She was besieged by directors begging to have her from 1954 until 1964.

by Anonymousreply 11March 18, 2021 3:03 AM

I have been unable to locate a definitive source, but Wikipedia says that lyricist Alan Jay Lerner flew to Paris to discuss the role with Hepburn, but she declined.

She had just done FUNNY FACE with Fred Astaire and DL fave Kay Thompson so maybe she was tired of musicals

by Anonymousreply 13March 18, 2021 3:11 AM

Jane Wyman forgave Leslie. Caron was another of the golden age actresses she brought to Falcon Crest. Video Clip : Angela squares off with Nicole.

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by Anonymousreply 15March 18, 2021 3:38 AM

More importantly,did Dame Angela ever forgive Lucy?

by Anonymousreply 16March 18, 2021 3:42 AM

[quote] Auds never did forgive Leslie. It’s well known she snuck into the latter’s dressing room several times and shit in her wigs.In fact, the harassment continued for years.

However, Julie Andrews, of all people, got Leslie's revenge.

When Audrey got the part of Eliza Doolittle, Julie snuck into Audrey's house when Audrey wasn't there, bent over her pillow and... well, let's just say Audrey had the nastiest case of pinkeye the next morning that lasted for weeks.

by Anonymousreply 17March 18, 2021 3:43 AM

[quote] More importantly ,did Dame Angela ever forgive Lucy?

Lansbury has said that she was not interested in making the movie version of MAME. In the early '70s, her son Anthony suffered a heroin overdose and went into a coma. Once he recovered, she and her husband Peter Shaw packed up the family and moved to Ireland to help Anthony overcome his addiction to drugs. She made no movies between 1971 and 1978.

by Anonymousreply 18March 18, 2021 4:06 AM

Audrey Hepburn is unforgivable, for all of it, except hiding in the attic in Belgium.

by Anonymousreply 19March 18, 2021 4:26 AM

Audrey was the Broadway Gigi, Leslie was the London Gigi. When Audrey turned down the theatrical version, the producers went with Miss Caron.

R5, though born in France, Caron established her movie career in English language films, so in her native country, she is regarded more of as a Hollywood star than a French movie star. When she returned to France in the mid '60s after her Hollywood career had stalled, she had trouble transitioning into French films because she was too American and ended up doing negligible tv projects.

by Anonymousreply 20March 18, 2021 4:32 AM

"Lansbury has said that she was not interested in making the movie version of MAME."

No (20:50)

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by Anonymousreply 21March 18, 2021 5:04 AM

[quote]However, Julie Andrews, of all people, got Leslie's revenge. When Audrey got the part of Eliza Doolittle, Julie snuck into Audrey's house when Audrey wasn't there, bent over her pillow and... well, let's just say Audrey had the nastiest case of pinkeye the next morning that lasted for weeks.

That's why I called her a cuntface!

by Anonymousreply 22March 18, 2021 5:14 AM

Interestingly, after Audrey Hepburn's death in 1993, her longtime companion, Robert Wolders, moved on to Leslie Caron, before squiring Henry Fonda's widow, Shirlee, for several decades. Prior to Hepburn, Wolders was Merle Oberon's 4th husband.

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by Anonymousreply 23March 18, 2021 5:31 AM

Did Robert Wolders know Merle’s secret?

by Anonymousreply 24March 18, 2021 6:14 AM

Well they were both miscast, the role is a teenager aged 16-18! Or 15-18!

Okay, Hepburn was spindly and girlish and might have carried it off if she was far enough from the audience, but Caron was 27 and having a round little face wasn't enough.

by Anonymousreply 25March 18, 2021 7:35 AM

Let’s face it, the film is fantastically twee. Twee is whimsy without wit. It's mimsy-mumsy sweetness without any kind of bite.

Would have been more of the same from Audrey I’m afraid.

by Anonymousreply 27March 18, 2021 7:41 AM

R11 - Caron's acting in Falcon Crest was terrible.

by Anonymousreply 28March 18, 2021 8:06 AM

"Let’s face it, the film is fantastically twee."

Which is really astonishing, when you consider the story is about a teen girl being forced into a life of prostitution, and preparing to sell her virginity in the 3rd act.

by Anonymousreply 29March 18, 2021 8:39 AM

Those 1980s soap operas really showed which 1950s movie queens had the chops and which were VERY fortunate back in their prime.

by Anonymousreply 30March 18, 2021 8:40 AM

I heard Audrey would drunkenly hit on Caron at every function they were both at. Audrey may have looked girlish, but she was a bull dagger between the sheets.

(VERY wild and unkempt bush, too... the one thing Givenchy ever argued with her about.)

by Anonymousreply 31March 18, 2021 8:46 AM

R29 it’s still a corny movie, a product of that time.

by Anonymousreply 32March 18, 2021 12:19 PM

"Thank Heaven for Little Girls" is one song that does deserve to be canceled. Especially considering that Chevalier was a Nazi sympathizer.

by Anonymousreply 33March 18, 2021 12:45 PM

I was the FIRST Gigi, bitches!

by Anonymousreply 34March 18, 2021 12:47 PM

R33 I remember when drew Barrymore claimed it was her favourite song. Certainly creepy!

by Anonymousreply 35March 18, 2021 12:52 PM

[quote] "Lansbury has said that she was not interested in making the movie version of MAME."

Your statement was correct, except for this sentence, R17. In this interview from 2006, she expressed regret at not being cast in the film. It starts at 20:48.

Oh, and she made "Bedknobs & Broomsticks" in 1971, but did take a lengthy break after that.

If you can link an interview where she says otherwise, I'll gladly watch it.

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by Anonymousreply 36March 18, 2021 10:21 PM

Lansbury did GYPSY quite a bit in the 1970s. She didn't really take a break.

by Anonymousreply 37March 19, 2021 11:38 AM

R26, Merle Oberon was Eurasian. She passed for white her entire life. She wouldn’t have got work if the public found out.

by Anonymousreply 38March 19, 2021 12:46 PM

I don't get Audrey Hepburn. Gamine, yes. Beautiful, no. Scrawny, underfed squirrel. The only time I appreciated her was in Charade with hair piled so high it was in another atmosphere.

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by Anonymousreply 39March 24, 2021 5:27 AM

Caron was the better and more charismatic actress. Why should Hepburn have forgiven her?

by Anonymousreply 40March 24, 2021 5:51 AM

Hepburn was overrated, Caron was the superior talent. Even in Hepburns most iconic roles, I always find myself wondering what another actress would have done with the part. That isn't to say she was embarrassing or incompetent as an actress, just not memorable in the way that a performer like Caron was.

by Anonymousreply 41March 24, 2021 5:56 AM

[quote] "Thank Heaven for Little Girls" is one song that does deserve to be canceled. Especially considering that Chevalier was a Nazi sympathizer.

The song was written by Jews. Lerner and Loewe were Jewish. Chevalier spent the rest of his career singing songs by the Sherman brothers in Disney movies. They were also Jews.

by Anonymousreply 42March 24, 2021 6:02 AM

[quote] If you can link an interview where she says otherwise, I'll gladly watch it.

I believe it was in a print interview with the LA Times when Lansbury brought GYPSY from London to Los Angeles in 1974. Perhaps it was one of those comments one makes so as not to look angry or bitter, or perhaps it was because Ball was still alive and she wanted to appear gracious, or perhaps it was because the movie was such a recent flop that she didn't want to look like she was saying "Well, if I had been Mame, it would've been a hit".

Thanks for posting the Osborne interview. I'm sure, with 30 years of hindsight, her thoughts on the movie version of MAME are more accurate of how she really feels as opposed to a print interview given when she was trying to plug her current show.

by Anonymousreply 44March 25, 2021 6:30 PM

[quote] Years later, when asked about the role, Miss Hepburn was as gracious as ever saying, "I think the producers were absolutely correct in choosing Leslie. She made for a much more believable whore than I."

by Anonymousreply 45March 25, 2021 6:58 PM

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