Here's a gathering of friends at Rock Hudson's Malibu beach house, circa1965.
These silent films were shot by Roddy MacDowell, and this particular one features Lauren Bacall, Robert Wagner, George Cukor, Jack Gilford, Elaine May and Lovey Howell.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 392 | August 5, 2019 8:25 PM |
Ascots and kerchiefs and turtlenecks...oh my!
| by Anonymous | reply 1 | August 16, 2017 4:49 PM |
I love the home movies of classic film stars. There lives seem so beautiful and glamorous and filled with so much privilege and luxury in a way that doesn't exist anymore.
| by Anonymous | reply 2 | August 16, 2017 5:15 PM |
This one features a compellingly butch Hope Lange (who is that woman she's following into the house and where are they headed?) Natalie Wood, Jane Fonda, Imogene Coca, Mike Nichols, David O. Selznick, etc.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 3 | August 16, 2017 5:15 PM |
Bacall has a more masculine face than Hudson does.
When did she hit the wall?
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 16, 2017 5:16 PM |
That's a rather modest abode. I would have expected something more grand from the hollywood elite. It's refreshing and I love the parasols. Who is the little guy dancing around in his captain's hat?
| by Anonymous | reply 5 | August 16, 2017 5:19 PM |
Rock Hudson had FLAVAH. Pity I never got to savor it.
| by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 16, 2017 5:20 PM |
honey that's a flavah you don't want to savah.
| by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 16, 2017 5:21 PM |
Julie Andrews, Hollywood royalty, driving a station wagon.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 16, 2017 5:31 PM |
Is it already that time of the year again to whip out these old home movies?
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | August 16, 2017 5:47 PM |
Tasteful Friends, that deck is too small.
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | August 16, 2017 10:37 PM |
Olivia de Havilland's garden party:
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 11 | August 16, 2017 10:47 PM |
I loved these movies! Thank you. Looked very very gay to me. Couldnt place the woman, not Bacall. Bacall' second marriage to Jason Robards was rumored to be awful - him horrible. Then she found herself a lady love. Rock had bigger Beverly Hills digs I think.
| by Anonymous | reply 12 | August 17, 2017 1:04 AM |
Here's some more, there are a bunch on that YouTube channel. This has Paul Newman, Ben Gazzara, and Roddy goofing around with his gorgeous boyfriend. Great seeing these old movies.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 13 | August 17, 2017 1:10 AM |
You're welcome, R14. Would somebody please fill me in on the R12 comment that Bacall found a lady love? That's one I've never heard, intrigued.
| by Anonymous | reply 15 | August 17, 2017 2:18 AM |
52 years later and Jane Fonda has the same tight body. I'm trying to think if there's a male celebrity out there about whom we could say the same...
| by Anonymous | reply 16 | August 17, 2017 2:31 AM |
Paul Newman was the most gorgeous man on Earth, Jesus F Christ.
Did Lauren Bacall not have a life? Did she show up at all these things and boss everyone around? Do you think Roddy rolled his eyes and gave her a polite air kiss everytime she showed up?
| by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 17, 2017 2:46 AM |
Rock Hudson had a gorgeous house in Beverly Hills, but horribly tacky Spanish style furniture. I remember going to the Realtors open house, and many didn't go because they were afraid of getting AIDS. Seriously.
A well-known director (blanking on the name) bought it and I believe leveled the place.
| by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 17, 2017 2:53 AM |
Ben Gazzarra was hot, anyone know Roddy McDowell's hot BFs name?
| by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 17, 2017 3:02 AM |
Regarding the clip at R13... what was going on in their lives?
Paul Newman and Lauren Bacall may have been working together on "Harper" which came out in 1966.
Lee Remick and George Segal would work together in the 1968 "No Way to Treat a Lady".
The little blond boy who appears at around 7:29 next to Bacall could very well be Sam Robards who was born in 1961.
Ben Gazarra's TV series "Run for Your Life" started in 1965.
Gazarra's wife Janice Rule was working steady too, both in TV and in 2 features that would come out in 1966: "The Chase" and "Alvarez Kelly".
At 4:03 Paul Newman arrives and it appears he has 4 of his kids with him: 2 little girls, 1 older girl and is that his son, Scott at 4:05 - 4:29 who looks like he feels out of place? Doesn't fit in with the adults and much too old for the little kids. Scott would have been about 15 at the time these movies were taken and the kid at 4:05 seems about that age.
| by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 17, 2017 3:12 AM |
For those who don't know, Scott Newman would died at age 28 from a drug overdose 13 years after these movies.
| by Anonymous | reply 21 | August 17, 2017 3:14 AM |
R19 According to one of the comments on YouTube, Roddy's BF was Ed Rosenthal. He was really handsome. Here's some footage including him in a speedo.
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R20, yes, the little blonde boy is Sam Robards, and the lady that looks like a grandma is Lauren's mother. RJ Wagner sure looks slick, wow.
| by Anonymous | reply 23 | August 17, 2017 3:23 AM |
The little boy guzzling from the pop bottle at 4:39 appears to be Lee Remick's son Matt Colleran.
| by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 17, 2017 3:25 AM |
OMG that's Vic Damone perspiring.
| by Anonymous | reply 25 | August 17, 2017 3:27 AM |
There are some others from the late 60s bouncing around, with Debbie Reynolds leading Carrie's Girl Scout group.
Kinda heartbreaking, actually.
| by Anonymous | reply 26 | August 17, 2017 3:32 AM |
So fascinating. Some of the clothes are amazing. Notice how tiny and thin everyone appears - aside from staying fit to be in the business you can tell they were not eating things loaded with corn syrup the way we are. Even their bones seem small. Itty bitty ladies in white pants. Everyone smoking. And Lauren Bacall why does she always growl at the camera and show those bad teeth.
| by Anonymous | reply 27 | August 17, 2017 3:39 AM |
God but jane was truly a beautiful young woman. Naturally beautiful. I bet she could get any hot dick she wanted back then.
| by Anonymous | reply 28 | August 17, 2017 3:40 AM |
Here's a previous thread on Roddy's home movies, with plenty of links and discussion. Still worth another go round.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 29 | August 17, 2017 3:44 AM |
Well, not exactly [italic]any.[italic]
| by Anonymous | reply 30 | August 17, 2017 3:44 AM |
One of these roddy McDowell movies includes a very young Robert Redford. I love Julie Andrews' station wagon
| by Anonymous | reply 31 | August 17, 2017 3:49 AM |
There's also a really lovely David McCallum eating a peach in one of the videos, always had a crush on him.
| by Anonymous | reply 32 | August 17, 2017 4:37 AM |
Bench seats in that station wagon. Those poor kids today will never know the fun of stretching all the way out for long teenage grope sessions in dad's car.
| by Anonymous | reply 33 | August 17, 2017 4:41 AM |
Do you think any of them used sunscreen? I notice that none of the women are wearing hats. And Bacall is positively bronze from the sun. Yikes!
| by Anonymous | reply 34 | August 17, 2017 4:48 AM |
No PR handlers, no assistants, just good friends enjoying themselves. I can't imagine there's anything much like this going on today in Hollywood.
| by Anonymous | reply 35 | August 17, 2017 4:54 AM |
Interesting to see Natalie Schafer/Lovey Howell with that group. I wonder how she's linked to the others.
| by Anonymous | reply 36 | August 17, 2017 5:09 AM |
I'm reading Play It as It Lays. This is how it all looked, like these home movies.
| by Anonymous | reply 37 | August 17, 2017 5:10 AM |
I love 1965. Everyone was still around.
| by Anonymous | reply 38 | August 17, 2017 5:36 AM |
R13 Thank you! R20 Glad you spotted Janice Rule too, I loved her screen performances. I think I first saw her in "Welcome to Hard Times." She had been married to Gazarra for a few years by this clip.
R16 In NYC wealthy gay women circles - small but many celebrities - Bacall had a partner that she became involved with after Robards. Bacall had become more vociferous about Civil Rights, stepping up a lifetime commitment to Democractic Party politics and that was apparently what she shared with her partner. Sadly I couldnt tell you anything else about her except she was a woman of color and they were very circumspect, I am told her kids knew about it. This goes a long way to explaining Whitney Houstons obvious admiration for Lauren. They shared common friends.
| by Anonymous | reply 39 | August 17, 2017 5:40 AM |
R39, thanks! I really appreciate the Lauren dish, that woman simply smoldered. I can't see too many men or women turning her down.
I also read that Bogart struggled with his own gay feelings, but the source is suspect (Daily Mail.)
| by Anonymous | reply 40 | August 17, 2017 5:49 AM |
Bacall seems annoyingly desperate in these videos. Mugging for the camera, etc.
The others are generally sitting around, talking, enjoying the company. She keeps looking the camera and mugging.
Me, Me, Me. And, did I mention MEE!!!!
| by Anonymous | reply 41 | August 17, 2017 6:49 AM |
I saw one of these where Judy Garland made a brief appearance. I imagine in a company town, you just know everyone after awhile. Nathalie Schaefer is just a long-time working actress who also probably knew everyone in town.
| by Anonymous | reply 42 | August 17, 2017 7:49 AM |
Yeah no, it was definitely her love of Schlitz.
| by Anonymous | reply 44 | August 17, 2017 8:33 AM |
R39, That is total bullshit about Bacall vis a vis another female. Betty was totally into dick.
| by Anonymous | reply 45 | August 17, 2017 8:35 AM |
R45, What, you can't see Betty lowering that gaze and strapping it on for some hot babe? Because I sure can.
| by Anonymous | reply 46 | August 17, 2017 9:00 AM |
You better believe it, buster.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 47 | August 17, 2017 11:18 AM |
Lauren looks very manly in OPs photo.
| by Anonymous | reply 49 | August 17, 2017 12:49 PM |
Great to see Tuesday Weld in some of the home movies!
| by Anonymous | reply 50 | August 17, 2017 12:58 PM |
Judy Garland is in this one. Tuesday Weld is well hatted. Suzanne Pleshette kisses a dame. Who is the woman in the purple sweater?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 51 | August 17, 2017 1:13 PM |
Who's the gal with the frosted coif and matching poodle in r13? She becomes progressively horizontal
| by Anonymous | reply 52 | August 17, 2017 1:18 PM |
You have to realize that Bacall was another generation (or two) younger than most of the women who appeared in Roddy's home movies so I'm sure she was somewhat self-conscious of being filmed alongside of them without the benefit of Perc Westmore, Sydney Guilaroff and James Wong Howe's lighting.
| by Anonymous | reply 53 | August 17, 2017 2:18 PM |
These home movies are like the silent L.A. version of What's My Line?
Celebrities captured live and spontaneous without the benefit of PR censorship.
| by Anonymous | reply 54 | August 17, 2017 2:21 PM |
R34 There WAS no sunscreen in 1965 (other than zinc oxide.)
| by Anonymous | reply 55 | August 17, 2017 4:26 PM |
R55 are you sure? Jodie Foster was the original Coppertone kid and she would've been around three years old in 1965.
| by Anonymous | reply 56 | August 17, 2017 4:34 PM |
*Jodie Foster played the first coppertone kid on tv ads, not the earlier print ads.
| by Anonymous | reply 57 | August 17, 2017 4:44 PM |
Coppertone was not an effective sun screen in those days. No one spoke of sun screens in those days.
| by Anonymous | reply 58 | August 17, 2017 4:53 PM |
Coppertone was a tanning aid back in the day, not sunscreen. Obviously they changed up their formula. Or they'd only be selling to Donatella Versace.
| by Anonymous | reply 59 | August 17, 2017 4:55 PM |
They all look so happy with beautiful enchanted lives of wealth and privilege and comfort along with success. But what was taking place across town that same year of 1965 was truly ugly. With police brutality and the watts riots that same year. As well as the civil rights movement and Jim Crow laws. And the woman's liberation movement the JFK assassination along with MLK and Bobby's untimely death too etc etc. It really gose to show you just how fucked up the world and society was in those days. And just how crazy and busy the sixties we're. There truly were so many moving parts in the revolution era known as the 60s.
WHAT A WORLD IT WAS!!
| by Anonymous | reply 60 | August 17, 2017 5:11 PM |
LOL ironically my post is number 60!
| by Anonymous | reply 61 | August 17, 2017 5:12 PM |
Am I wrong or were all these home movies filmed in 1965?
Didn't they get together in any other year?
| by Anonymous | reply 63 | August 17, 2017 5:37 PM |
So far it's just movies from 1965, R63, but you can look around youtube to see if there are others.
| by Anonymous | reply 64 | August 17, 2017 5:41 PM |
[quote]Robert Wagner was a god.
| by Anonymous | reply 65 | August 17, 2017 5:48 PM |
James Garner, on the other hand?
Now [italic]there[/italic] was a god. Same era. Perfect physique--and an ass you could bury your face in.
| by Anonymous | reply 66 | August 17, 2017 5:52 PM |
I loved James Garner, too, but he wasn't in that home movie, R66.
| by Anonymous | reply 67 | August 17, 2017 5:55 PM |
James Garner was a perfect specimen of male beauty with a rich, warm voice to match.
| by Anonymous | reply 68 | August 17, 2017 5:56 PM |
In the video at Rock's place he's looking at Roddy McDowell holding the camera thinking "I can't wait for all these old geezers to leave so I can fuck you".
| by Anonymous | reply 69 | August 17, 2017 6:02 PM |
Is there a lip reader in the house?
| by Anonymous | reply 70 | August 17, 2017 6:05 PM |
I'll bet Jane Fonda and that known lesbo Julie Andrews munched each other's carpets.
| by Anonymous | reply 71 | August 17, 2017 6:06 PM |
What a lovely thought. Thank you R71.
| by Anonymous | reply 72 | August 17, 2017 6:09 PM |
Come to think of it, Jane Fonda does have gay voice.
| by Anonymous | reply 73 | August 17, 2017 6:11 PM |
All these millionaire movie stars and not a god damn one could afford a movie camera that had sound?
| by Anonymous | reply 74 | August 17, 2017 6:11 PM |
Bet Garbo's home-movies had sound.
| by Anonymous | reply 75 | August 17, 2017 6:13 PM |
They weren't invented yet, R74. Roddy shot this on 16mm Kodachrome.
| by Anonymous | reply 76 | August 17, 2017 6:13 PM |
[quote] Robert Wagner was a god.
Was is certainly the operative word.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 77 | August 17, 2017 6:15 PM |
Does anyone know whether McDowell's boyfriend mentioned above, is the long-time one who eventually left him?
Referencing that breakup was the unsubtle way that Dominick Dunne outed McDowell after he died.
| by Anonymous | reply 78 | August 17, 2017 6:15 PM |
Betty Bacall looks like the biggest bull dyke EVAH.
| by Anonymous | reply 80 | August 17, 2017 6:17 PM |
Mother-of-god.
Could it be that [itallic]that's[/italic] the face "one deserves"--when one has abetted/neglected to lift a finger when his wife was drowning?
| by Anonymous | reply 81 | August 17, 2017 6:18 PM |
Yes, R77. Sic transit gloria.
| by Anonymous | reply 83 | August 17, 2017 6:41 PM |
All of Roddy's home movies were shot in the summer of 1965. He rented the Maliby house that summer and had parties every weekend and invited everyone who was anyone.
Besides all of the hottest young stars, you'll see George Cukor, David O Selznick with wife Jennifer Jones, Merle Oberon, Cathleen Nesbitt, Ruth Gordon and Garson Kanin and Adolph Green and wife Phyllis Newman and co-librettist Betty Comden.
IMHO Lee Remick is the most beautiful. Jane Fonda is the sexiest. Of the women, that is...........
| by Anonymous | reply 85 | August 17, 2017 9:05 PM |
Judy was wearing her surfing pearls.
| by Anonymous | reply 86 | August 17, 2017 9:19 PM |
r40, when Bogart ends up sauntering off with Claude Rains's character in [italic]Casablanca[/italic] I choose to believe it's because they can no longer suppress their mutual affinity.
| by Anonymous | reply 87 | August 17, 2017 9:25 PM |
In OP's video at about the 1:00 mark, I think Lauren Bacall is saying something like, "Would you stop it with that fucking camera!". Then she does the big smile.
| by Anonymous | reply 88 | August 17, 2017 9:25 PM |
Did we find out who the man with the captain's hat is? Is it Adolph Green?
| by Anonymous | reply 89 | August 17, 2017 9:27 PM |
Jane Fonda and Julie Andrews: The Survivors.
| by Anonymous | reply 90 | August 17, 2017 9:28 PM |
I guess Crawford and Davis weren't invited than.
| by Anonymous | reply 91 | August 17, 2017 9:32 PM |
And speaking of Crawford, isn't the well-known beach house rented by McDowall the same one that was used in [italic]Mildred Pierce?[/italic]
| by Anonymous | reply 92 | August 17, 2017 9:36 PM |
I think Joan Crawford was still living in NYC in 65 trying to spend whatever of Alfred Steele's money she stole before he died in 59.
| by Anonymous | reply 93 | August 17, 2017 9:37 PM |
That scene near the end of "Mommie Dearest," where she's propped up on a mattress and box spring--no bedframe--is a tell, of sorts,
| by Anonymous | reply 94 | August 17, 2017 9:40 PM |
R40 disregard the hater @R45. My source was someone that dated in that circle.
| by Anonymous | reply 95 | August 17, 2017 10:29 PM |
At the time of this movie Bacall was in a relationship with Robards - she was realizing how abusive he was. Since he is not present she was probably starved for positive attention. She was at the tale end of her awful marriage to Robards abusive violent drunk. She divorced Robards at age 45.
From age 45 -89 thats 44 years for those of you mathmatically challenged. She wasnt marrying again - and as for dating nada. 44 years Yeah I believe she was quietly hooked up on the DL. She was a raging Liberal and was seriously "WOKE" early on.
| by Anonymous | reply 96 | August 17, 2017 10:41 PM |
She did have a short fling with Sinatra and it was over. She was done with men, perhaps she felt - I had the best, no more.
| by Anonymous | reply 97 | August 17, 2017 10:43 PM |
She was thisclose to [italic]marrying[/italic] Sinatra after Bogart's death; he got pissed because she leaked the news (if IIRC) and called it off.
| by Anonymous | reply 98 | August 17, 2017 10:45 PM |
Bacall was minimally talented and benefited from the patronage of Howard Hawks and Bogart who are responsible for creating her career. How could she have missed with them running interference for her? The first film she did without Bogart was a stinking turkey.
She had an OK career, but DL sees her as much more important than she was.
| by Anonymous | reply 99 | August 17, 2017 10:49 PM |
I have NEVER understood the allure of Lauren Bacall. I never thought she was an interesting actress, never thought she was pretty.
| by Anonymous | reply 100 | August 17, 2017 10:57 PM |
She got every inch out of her limited range--and then some.
She sure was a looker in her prime; her eldest son Stephen inherited her mesmerizing eyes, and the other one, Sam Robards has BDF for days.
| by Anonymous | reply 101 | August 17, 2017 10:58 PM |
looker = photographed exceedingly well
| by Anonymous | reply 102 | August 17, 2017 10:59 PM |
[quote]She sure was a looker in her prime; her eldest son Stephen inherited her mesmerizing eyes, and the other one, Sam Robards has BDF for days.
Are you saying Lauren had big dick face?
| by Anonymous | reply 103 | August 17, 2017 11:01 PM |
no, lol
Pretty sure Sam picked up the face--and the accompanying attribute--from Jason.
| by Anonymous | reply 104 | August 17, 2017 11:02 PM |
And speaking of, every reference to Jason seems to include some mention of what a shit he was in real life, but there's something about his performance in "Parenthood" that really hits home. He was a talented man.
| by Anonymous | reply 105 | August 17, 2017 11:07 PM |
It's1965 and fat people hadn't been invented yet.
| by Anonymous | reply 106 | August 17, 2017 11:13 PM |
In OP's still, Betty Bacall looks like MtF trans after a 3-week meth bender.
| by Anonymous | reply 107 | August 17, 2017 11:13 PM |
Jesus. Tough crowd.
She was actually a very successful model back in the day.
| by Anonymous | reply 108 | August 17, 2017 11:15 PM |
[quote]'s1965 and fat people hadn't been invented yet.
Even Mama Cass was skinny enough to fit in a bathtub with 3 other people!
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 109 | August 17, 2017 11:20 PM |
Why are those movies all silent? People were speaking to the camera so there must have been a soundtrack at some point.
| by Anonymous | reply 110 | August 17, 2017 11:32 PM |
Bacall had well-documented and long affairs with Len Cariou (her co-star in Applause), James Garner (her co-star in The Fan) and Harry Guardino (her co-star in Woman of the Year). IIRC she even talks about all 3 men in her bio. She was neither a lesbian nor a nun after her marriage to Robards dissolved.
Bacall never took her acting abilities seriously and was content to be Mrs. Bogart. She didn't like being under the influence of Hawks. Once she and Bogart had their two children, Bacall became even more interested in being a wife and mother and let her career slide. And Bogart became ill so that further derailed her interest in working. At heart, she was always just a smart middle-class Jewish girl from NYC.
She didn't really consider herself a true actress until Cactus Flower, a huge Broadway hit. And then Applause was an even bigger hit. She got her confidence on the Broadway stage, not in Hollywood.
As a poster stated above, she was most likely in LA filming Harper in the summer of 1965, starring Paul Newman and Robert Wagner, also among the McDowall invitees.
| by Anonymous | reply 111 | August 17, 2017 11:57 PM |
Anyone notice how relatively modest the homes are compared to the mega palaces "stars" call home today? It's almost rustic!
| by Anonymous | reply 112 | August 17, 2017 11:58 PM |
Rock and Roddy fucking? Did they bump mussies?
| by Anonymous | reply 113 | August 18, 2017 12:00 AM |
Here is Roddy's house on Zillow. You can still see the original bones of the place, but it's now very much upgraded. Malibu is certainly a different place.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 114 | August 18, 2017 12:15 AM |
[quote]Anyone notice how relatively modest the homes are
That's because Norma Desmond and Fatty Arbuckle were still alive and hogging all the palazzo prime real estate.
| by Anonymous | reply 115 | August 18, 2017 12:45 AM |
[quote]Anyone notice how relatively modest the homes are
Lucille Ball's maid used to get pissed off because anyone could just walk up to her house and ring the doorbell.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 116 | August 18, 2017 12:49 AM |
[quote]Lucille Ball's maid used to get pissed off because anyone could just walk up to her house and ring the doorbell.
She never complained when I did it.
| by Anonymous | reply 117 | August 18, 2017 12:51 AM |
That poor maid was always cranky, cause her hovel of a room had an ironing board, bed and a dresser with a TV and was the size of a small closet.
| by Anonymous | reply 118 | August 18, 2017 12:57 AM |
David Selznick, shown working the crossword puzzle, died less than a month later.
| by Anonymous | reply 119 | August 18, 2017 1:02 AM |
R113 Rock was a bottom and Roddy McDowall was reputed to be hung, huge. Draw your own conclusions..
| by Anonymous | reply 120 | August 18, 2017 1:09 AM |
He put the broomstick in [italic]Bedknobs and Broomsticks[/italic].
| by Anonymous | reply 121 | August 18, 2017 1:12 AM |
Wasn't there someone trying to make a documentary using these clips? It would be great with the stars' names superimposed as they appear, and subtitled to show what they're saying.
| by Anonymous | reply 122 | August 18, 2017 1:17 AM |
Selznick: "I need a thirteen letter, two word combo for "heart-stopping."
| by Anonymous | reply 123 | August 18, 2017 1:23 AM |
Jennifer Jones: "Has anyone seen my chin?"
| by Anonymous | reply 124 | August 18, 2017 1:27 AM |
^Is the house in the shape of a U ?
| by Anonymous | reply 125 | August 18, 2017 1:37 AM |
[quote]He put the broomstick in Bedknobs and Broomsticks.
Also seriously pissed-off his jealous equine costar in [italic]My Friend Flicka[/italic] when he saw what McDowall was packing.
| by Anonymous | reply 126 | August 18, 2017 1:45 AM |
"C A R D I A C A R R E S T"
| by Anonymous | reply 127 | August 18, 2017 2:23 AM |
Roddy knew ALL the gossip in Hollywood. And unfortunately he took it to his grave.
| by Anonymous | reply 128 | August 18, 2017 2:25 AM |
One really wonders how "out" the gay people were among their intimate friends at parties like this. Obviously, everyone knew Roddy and Rock and some others were gay but were they allowed to be true to themselves here or not?
| by Anonymous | reply 129 | August 18, 2017 2:43 AM |
[quote]Is there a lip reader in the house?
No, but at r51, Anthony Perkins clearly says "fuck you" twice, right to the camera. Roddy was probably egging him on with general gay bitchery and/or salaciousness.
Julie Andrews thanks her host as she gets ready to drive away, after spending a lovely afternoon facilitating naked videos of actress daughter Emma Walton.
Paul Newman looked pretty banged up at r13, with multiple facial lacerations and a burnt/heavily bandaged left hand. Does anyone know what happened to him in 1965? Fisting - s/m session gone amock?
| by Anonymous | reply 130 | August 18, 2017 10:57 AM |
Never mind. Googled "Paul Newman injuries 1965" and got my answer.
| by Anonymous | reply 131 | August 18, 2017 11:03 AM |
That must be why he turned to auto racing as a safer option, r131/132.
| by Anonymous | reply 132 | August 18, 2017 12:29 PM |
R132 The studios and the insurance companies made him quit motorcycles.
| by Anonymous | reply 133 | August 18, 2017 12:48 PM |
Could Adolph Green look any gayer with his sailor cap and neck scarf?
| by Anonymous | reply 134 | August 18, 2017 1:27 PM |
Maybe Paul forgot his safe word during a rough threesome with Joanne and Gore Vidal.
| by Anonymous | reply 135 | August 18, 2017 1:29 PM |
Natalie Wood and a bandaged Paul Newman at the 1966 Golden Globe Awards.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 136 | August 18, 2017 1:30 PM |
Did you all notice Tammy Grimes at the very beginning of OP's home movie sauntering up the driveway into Roddy's cottage in her pink bikini?
I wonder if she was trying out LA that summer to drum up some film work. I don't think it panned out.
| by Anonymous | reply 137 | August 18, 2017 1:45 PM |
The dreamy Liz Scott is in one of the films - unfortunately on a cloudy day when everyone is indoors.
| by Anonymous | reply 138 | August 18, 2017 1:53 PM |
I've been wondering what exactly is going on inside the house. Aside from the orgies, maybe that's where the real food is (Spam sandwiches and so forth.)
| by Anonymous | reply 139 | August 18, 2017 3:13 PM |
R116 -
I was always surprised that the "Queen of Television" lived in a relatively modest house.
Maybe she was frugal. I know it was Beverly Hills, but still, you'd think she would want a gated, more secluded property. Christ knows she could afford it.
| by Anonymous | reply 140 | August 18, 2017 3:57 PM |
Lucy was cheap. I posted about her house on another thread.
| by Anonymous | reply 141 | August 18, 2017 4:00 PM |
R140 I think that was typical for that time in Hollywood. Mega mansions didn't become fashionable until much later.
| by Anonymous | reply 142 | August 18, 2017 4:02 PM |
Jane Fonda was, and to some extent remains, physically glorious but she was, and remains, a bit of a cipher. She gloms onto whatever beliefs made her look cool at the time, and often takes it too far.
Hence her ludicrous trip to North Vietnam while her country was (in all but name) at war with that country. Because it was so hip to be radical. "The establishment is plastic, man."
Then came her shameful cheerleading for Israel in the 1980s, because it was the thing to do, which morphed, hilariously, into protest against Israel in the 2000s, because, yes, it was the thing to do.
She is pretty though.
| by Anonymous | reply 144 | August 18, 2017 4:14 PM |
Yes, Lucy had Jimmy Stewart on one side and Jack Benny on the other. One of the nicest streets in Beverly Hills but her place looked like a middle-class frau fest.
| by Anonymous | reply 145 | August 18, 2017 4:15 PM |
R144, we have a good thread going here and now you have to come in and stir up trouble.
Please do us all a favor. Take your contrarianism outside and start your own thread. Thanks.
| by Anonymous | reply 146 | August 18, 2017 4:27 PM |
I'm not sure that the 60's were any better nutrition-wise for the Hollywood crowd, but this Veg-All pie plate would be considered an elegant offering at any cocktail party.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 147 | August 18, 2017 5:43 PM |
Note how tastefully a real hostess will use decorative parsley on the frankfurter stump.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 148 | August 18, 2017 5:51 PM |
I don't think Roddy owned that house. He lived in NYC and was renting for the summer of 1965.
| by Anonymous | reply 149 | August 18, 2017 8:58 PM |
R106, that's because all that smoking suppressed their appetites.
| by Anonymous | reply 150 | August 19, 2017 2:23 AM |
Roddy always was a nasty little shit! He didn't take these movies to document us having a good time. He took these movies in case he needed something to sell to TMZ.
| by Anonymous | reply 152 | August 19, 2017 2:29 PM |
Tony Perkins comes across as very nasty in these home movies. He clearly guarded his privacy very closely.
| by Anonymous | reply 153 | August 19, 2017 2:46 PM |
Holy God. Ben Gazzara kissing Paul Newman on the mouth!
| by Anonymous | reply 154 | August 19, 2017 3:25 PM |
[quote]Ben Gazzara kissing Paul Newman on the mouth!
That fag tried to kiss me on the mouth when we were dating and I told him, "I don't know where that mouth has been."
| by Anonymous | reply 155 | August 19, 2017 3:30 PM |
Especially considering their history:
Gazzara created the role of Brick in the Broadway premiere of Cat on a Hot Tin Roof and Newman did the film role a few years before this 1965 party took place.
| by Anonymous | reply 156 | August 19, 2017 3:33 PM |
My cousin knew Jason Robards in his later years after he got sober. He said he was a very complex guy, but very decent and fair-minded, who took responsibility for his bad behavior in his younger years. Although he said that Bacall was a nightmare bitch to live with, after the divorce they apparently maintained a friendship throughout his life. I get the impression he and Bacall were personalities that could bring out the worst in one another, but neither was entirely to blame for the mess. I'm sure he could be a miserable asshole before he started to get his act together in his 50s, and if he did, in fact, abuse her it's totally unconscionable.
| by Anonymous | reply 157 | August 19, 2017 3:43 PM |
Lee Remick is so gorgeous in these. her first husband Ben Colleran appears to grope her at one stage, no wonder she divoced him . Out of towners like Simone Signoret and James Fox, filming in hollywood then, got sunday invites too. Natalie and Jane Fonda kept themselves apart from being seen together, each being a total goddess. Of course now they would all be posting pictures of themselves online with their dear friends. The house looks quie modest, but would still have cost a lot, wonder what its like now.
| by Anonymous | reply 158 | August 19, 2017 3:52 PM |
Roddy McDowall, Anthony Perkins and Rock Hudson?
More like Celebrity HOMO Movies!
| by Anonymous | reply 159 | August 19, 2017 5:08 PM |
Easter at Hope Lange's house with Redford and friends
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 160 | August 19, 2017 5:24 PM |
Who is the lovely blonde lady putting her straw hat on Roddy's head at the beginning of Hope's Easter party? I guess probably just some exec's wife? She looks like a young Marlene Dietrich.
Roddy was so very handsome at that age. Since he was usually the camera man he doesn't often appear in his home movies.
| by Anonymous | reply 161 | August 19, 2017 5:32 PM |
Roddy and Hope Lange are cute
| by Anonymous | reply 162 | August 19, 2017 5:36 PM |
How many of you knew what a looker Dominick Dunne was back in the 60's. He's in the light blue shirt.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 163 | August 19, 2017 5:38 PM |
Seconding R61, I too would like to know who the straw hat woman is
| by Anonymous | reply 164 | August 19, 2017 5:42 PM |
Seen these before and I'm always mesmerised by them. They are little time capsules of a vanished Hollywood elite. What's amazing is how unbothered they are by the public. Wouldn't happen now it all looks so casual. Roddys boyfriend is stunning too. Wish we could hear what they were saying. Most of them are long dead now. Who's still alive aside from Fonda?
| by Anonymous | reply 165 | August 19, 2017 5:52 PM |
Some of the women look very contemporary. Strange to think that Jane Fonda was at this time locked in a shifty marriage to that French director, she looks so carefree here Julie Andrews looks so happy. She was riding a crest at this point with Mary poppins a big smash and The sound of Music just released.
| by Anonymous | reply 167 | August 19, 2017 6:00 PM |
Can you believe that Roddy was 36 in these?? He looks much younger. I reckon his bf was younger. Isn't there one of these home movies where sal mineo brings a hot peice of trade along?
| by Anonymous | reply 168 | August 19, 2017 6:07 PM |
R168, yes there is a video of Sal Mineo with a handsome friend. I tried to link to it amfew minites ago but it just wont work. I suggest you search for it on YouTube using Mineo's name. The OP on YouTube is Soapboxprod
| by Anonymous | reply 169 | August 19, 2017 6:12 PM |
Sorry for typing errors ^
| by Anonymous | reply 170 | August 19, 2017 6:13 PM |
Wow, I'm just crazy with typing errors this afternoon. R168, correction: the OP on YouTube is Soapbxprod.
| by Anonymous | reply 171 | August 19, 2017 6:18 PM |
The frankfurter stump is delicious.
| by Anonymous | reply 172 | August 19, 2017 6:23 PM |
I'm not sure the likes of Roddy, Rock, George etc would have been that open in mixed company. Even among straight friends at this time I'm sure they would have been muted to a degree. I wonder if Jane fonda has seen these on YouTube? Some interviewer should bring them up sometime. I know I would.
| by Anonymous | reply 173 | August 19, 2017 6:23 PM |
Interestingly, the one where Judy makes an appearance also has Rock Hudson, Tony Perkins, and Larry Kert...
| by Anonymous | reply 174 | August 19, 2017 6:27 PM |
Someone who can read lips should provide a transcript.
| by Anonymous | reply 175 | August 19, 2017 6:33 PM |
I bet they're all talking about mundane things like work.
| by Anonymous | reply 176 | August 19, 2017 6:36 PM |
Where is katherine Hepburn?
| by Anonymous | reply 177 | August 19, 2017 6:54 PM |
I wonder if Dominick Dunne was out to the other gays at this point in his life? Probably not. But he sure was handsome.
Always refreshing to note the rare celebs who did not appear to smoke, like Dunne, James Fox, Samantha Eggar.........
I think that's costume designer Jean Louis and his pre-Loretta Young wife at the very end of the last clip. Was she a model?
| by Anonymous | reply 178 | August 19, 2017 8:17 PM |
R51, the woman in the purple sweater is Ellen Griffin Dunne, Dominick Dunne's then wife. She would later found Justice for Homicide Victims after her daughter's murderer received a lenient sentence for voluntary manslaughter.
| by Anonymous | reply 179 | August 19, 2017 8:53 PM |
R179, many thanks. She's lovely.
| by Anonymous | reply 180 | August 19, 2017 9:21 PM |
In the video at R163, isn't that Edward Fox in the blue shirt? Dunne (black hair) can be seen talking to Simone Signoret at 1:21, 1:36 and Dunne is wearing a white hat while he talks to Edward Fox (blue shirt) at 3:02.
| by Anonymous | reply 181 | August 19, 2017 9:40 PM |
Lovey Howell is FABULOUS at OP's link.
| by Anonymous | reply 182 | August 19, 2017 10:17 PM |
Natalie Schaefer was a huge fag hag and lots of fun to hang with.
| by Anonymous | reply 183 | August 19, 2017 10:21 PM |
But is that Lovey in the grey Chanel suit or is she the one briefly seen in the pea green ensemble and hat?
| by Anonymous | reply 184 | August 19, 2017 11:55 PM |
I'll bet on the pea green ensemble, but heck, why not both? She had an extensive wardrobe, after all.
| by Anonymous | reply 185 | August 20, 2017 12:03 AM |
Well, it's just that those two looks are both seen on ladies at the same party, r185. The hats with both outfits tend to obscure the faces a bit.
| by Anonymous | reply 186 | August 20, 2017 12:04 AM |
Did Natalie wear her Gilligan's Island wardrobe when she was out and about? Those look like Lovey's outfits!
| by Anonymous | reply 187 | August 20, 2017 12:11 AM |
R186 I was not poking fun at your comment, and meant no harm. I was just riffing on the Gilligan's Island shtick. Lovey had an awfully large wardrobe onboard for a 3 hour tour. Ginger too!
| by Anonymous | reply 188 | August 20, 2017 12:14 AM |
If they had Lovey Howell, why couldn't they have invited Mrs. Drysdale?
| by Anonymous | reply 189 | August 20, 2017 12:22 AM |
I love these movies, and saved this thread until I finally had a chance to watch all of them. Such an unspoiled time, with Hollywood royalty eating off paper plates, drinking beer from cans and jug wine. And, (Good Lord) everyone smoking. It's like another world. OP, if you hate this, feel free to say so, since I'd never want to derail this thread, but I wanted to add an explanation about why California's beaches are so democratic (not political, in this sense).
BTW, more uninteresting information (to anyone but me), my ex-bf used to nickname me "Lovey" or "Mrs Howell" because I was always prepared with an umbrella.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 190 | August 20, 2017 1:21 AM |
I see you more with a parasol, R190, it's festive afterall., and umbrellas are so common. Thank you for your addition to the thread, too. It's great.
| by Anonymous | reply 191 | August 20, 2017 1:41 AM |
My bad, R181, I think you're right. The man in the blue shirt isn't Dominick Dunne, it's Edward Fox, whom I've never heard of, and he is gorgeous.
| by Anonymous | reply 192 | August 20, 2017 1:46 AM |
Mrs. Drysdale is inside the house, reclined beneath Nancy Kulp.
| by Anonymous | reply 193 | August 20, 2017 1:50 AM |
Edward Fox in The Day of the Jackal
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 194 | August 20, 2017 1:54 AM |
At the 2:05 mark on this clip there's Robert Walker, Jr., looking quite unlike Ensign Pulver, and Charlie X fom Star Trek. He's got a beard and curly hair and looks really handsome. Good shots of Christopher Plummer and Sal Mineo as well.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 196 | August 20, 2017 2:08 AM |
Is it James Fox or his brother Edward? Whichever, I think it's the one who starred opposite Julie in Thoroughly Modern Millie.
| by Anonymous | reply 197 | August 20, 2017 3:11 AM |
James Fox from Millie is in the home movie.
| by Anonymous | reply 198 | August 20, 2017 3:13 AM |
[quote]Why are those movies all silent? People were speaking to the camera so there must have been a soundtrack at some point.
Oh, honey.
| by Anonymous | reply 199 | August 20, 2017 4:05 AM |
Is that Juliet Mills with Robert Walker Jr at the end of the r196 clip? They're both gorgeous. And Chris Plummer was quite the hottie.
| by Anonymous | reply 200 | August 20, 2017 4:12 AM |
[quote]I wonder if Jane fonda has seen these on YouTube?
She commented on them on Twitter a few years ago.
| by Anonymous | reply 201 | August 20, 2017 4:15 AM |
R200 Yes, I believe that is Juliet Mills, someone in the comments identified her. I was really taken aback by him, as he looked so instantly recognizable, and modern. I was surprised to find out who he was.
| by Anonymous | reply 202 | August 20, 2017 5:03 AM |
Are you sure that isn't Hayley Mills, Juliet's daughter?
| by Anonymous | reply 203 | August 20, 2017 5:37 AM |
Juliet Mills was Hayley's sister, apparently, and would have been 24 at that time, several of the YouTube comments identify her as Juliet.
| by Anonymous | reply 204 | August 20, 2017 5:49 AM |
R203 Hayley and Juliet are sisters. Did you never see The Parent Trap? Hayley was a far bigger star than her sister in those days. Or are you just being tongue in cheek? That would be delightful
| by Anonymous | reply 205 | August 20, 2017 5:51 AM |
A couple of other notable things about the clip ar R196 is Sal Mineo, and his very cute friend at :21, and Christopher PLummer's big speedo bulge at :51.
| by Anonymous | reply 206 | August 20, 2017 6:00 AM |
Oh oof. That bulge is just nuts.
| by Anonymous | reply 207 | August 20, 2017 6:07 AM |
Bob Crane (Hogan's Heroes) had a lot of home movies. All of him having sex with various women.
Rob Lowe has a couple as well.
| by Anonymous | reply 208 | August 20, 2017 7:10 AM |
Tuesday Weld is also in that last clip though Roddy never quite captures her full face. She sometimes has a towel wrapped around her head.
Natalie Wood in her straw jello mold hat has a kinda Liz Taylor thing going on here. 1965 was just about the last gasp of Nat's career trajectory. It was all down hill for her from here. I wonder if she felt that surrounded by all these new beauties?
The funny thing about Sal and his blonde friend is it looks like they're dressed for 2 different occasions, like the friend was just unexpectedly "picked up" along the way.
And yes, Chris Plummer's baby blue speedo, my my!!
| by Anonymous | reply 209 | August 20, 2017 2:48 PM |
In r196's video, poor Sal Mineo's boyfriend is overdressed for a beach party. And then at 0:32 when they show everyone sitting on the boardwalk, the poor guy is sitting there and nobody is talking to him. Sal should have at least told him to take off his shirt and just sunbathe in his undershirt. I feel sorry for the pretty boy, he seems out of place.
| by Anonymous | reply 210 | August 20, 2017 3:03 PM |
This isn't a plug because she doesn't need one, but Alison Martino (Al Martino's daughter) runs a great page on Facebook called Vintage Los Angeles. It is loaded with pictures and movies of old Hollywood. Alison is very into the area's conservation.
If you grew up in the southern California it will be extra-special, but either way it is fun to follow. And for bonus points, Alison lives in the same high-rise that Suzanne Pleshette lived in. Suzanne decorated the lobby, which the board is in the process of redoing- the morons. It is fabulous still- just needs to be refreshed.
Alison knows everyone worth knowing, and their kids, so check it out. Right know she is touring Europe for the movie she did about Jayne Mansfield with the partners that did Dear Mom, Love Cher so scroll back through old posts.
Enjoy guys!
| by Anonymous | reply 211 | August 20, 2017 4:14 PM |
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Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 212 | August 20, 2017 6:19 PM |
Jason Robards, upright, and a curious man in a grey jacket with a pocket kerchief. Any idea who that is?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 213 | August 20, 2017 6:22 PM |
R212, Betty sure looked like she knew her way around a kitchen.
| by Anonymous | reply 214 | August 20, 2017 6:24 PM |
Merle Oberon had really bad hair. If you've never seen William Wyler's AFI Award ceremony, Merle somehow got herself seated at Wyler's head table and after making her remarks about working with him, Wyler looked annoyed . . . he couldn't stand the bitch. Surprisingly, former lover Bette Davis skipped the Wyler ceremony, yet he showed up for her night and spoke two years later.
| by Anonymous | reply 216 | August 20, 2017 6:44 PM |
[quote]Roddy McDowall, Anthony Perkins and Rock Hudson? More like Celebrity HOMO Movies!
Too bad Rock wasn't in [italic]The Black Hole[/italic] along with the other two, then it would have been really camptacular instead of just a middling attempt by Disney to follow the crowd.
| by Anonymous | reply 217 | August 20, 2017 7:37 PM |
[quote]Tuesday Weld is also in that last clip though Roddy never quite captures her full face. She sometimes has a towel wrapped around her head.
Tuesday was a towel-head?
| by Anonymous | reply 218 | August 20, 2017 7:48 PM |
There are so many people in that clip at r213 I don't recognize, a mostly older crowd, lots of execs or maybe writers with their wives. It looks to be a cooler day, not a beach day so perhaps that's why there aren't any younger folks there except for Roddy's bf in the tan velour shirt, James Fox (was he gay?) and that annoying girl who keeps yammering on to Jason Robards. WTF is she?
George Cukor is the gent in the grey houndstooth jacket with pocket square talking to Jean Louis and his lovely wife.
Merle Oberon looks fresh from a recent facelift.
I couldn't find Troy Donahue. And I can't imagine why he'd be there with that crowd.
| by Anonymous | reply 219 | August 21, 2017 12:14 AM |
Agreed, R219, I couldn't get over that annoying broad talking Jason Robards's ear off at R213. I didn't see Troy Donahue, either, but I did pick out Hope Lange and Richard Attenborough and George Segal and Merle Oberon (I think she looked great!)
| by Anonymous | reply 220 | August 21, 2017 5:54 AM |
I wonder if James Fox was misidentified as Troy Donahue on youtube?
Suzanne Pleshette does make an appearance at Roddy's house in a couple of these home movies but I don't think her brief marriage to Donahue lasted to 1965.
| by Anonymous | reply 221 | August 21, 2017 2:45 PM |
I didn't see Troy Donahue either. Was Pleshette gay? Her marriage to Tom Poston made me suspicious as I cannot imagine him with anything other than a man (same with Donahue,) and Suzanne herself has lez voice and vibe for days.
| by Anonymous | reply 222 | August 21, 2017 3:44 PM |
Good morning everybody, here's a nostalgic clip of sixties fashion and dancing at the notorious Whiskey A Go Go, club to the stars.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 223 | August 21, 2017 3:54 PM |
Suzanne was no lez, lol. She just had one of those deep, sexy sounding voices enhanced by cigarettes.
| by Anonymous | reply 224 | August 21, 2017 4:22 PM |
I play that r223 clip often, OP, because I like 60's go go dancing and love Smokey's song. Joey Heatherton at 2:00!
| by Anonymous | reply 225 | August 21, 2017 4:29 PM |
It's a style of dance that delights me to this day. The woman in the video talks about liking how she can dance with lots of space between herself and her partner, and it never occured to me but it's true: dance before that was always a matter of close body contact, some way, somehow. Cool.
| by Anonymous | reply 226 | August 21, 2017 4:43 PM |
Was Tab Hunter ever in these movies? Seems like he'd fit right in with the rest of the gays (especially since he was "close" to Tony Perkins.)
| by Anonymous | reply 227 | August 21, 2017 4:47 PM |
R227 Tab Hunter was a loner and his career was on it's downward trajectory at this point. I don't think he would have been part of the Hollywood Elite at this time. He did have a relationship with Tony Perkins but that was in the early 50's.
| by Anonymous | reply 228 | August 21, 2017 5:51 PM |
But Tab was also very close to Roddy in the 1950s. Isn't there a funny photo of them out there somewhere?
| by Anonymous | reply 229 | August 21, 2017 6:31 PM |
R156, Ben Gazzara, who played Brick opposite Barbara Bel Geddes' Maggie the Cat, flew to Hollywood to meet with the producers of the film version of Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. He thought it went well and was pretty confident that he got the part. He was crushed when he didn't get it. Perhaps Ben looked too Sicilian to play an All-American college football star from the South. He would also lose out to the blandly inferior Don Murray as Johnny Pope in A Hatful of Rain, another role Gazzara originated on Broadway. Had Ben been born a decade later, he would've fit right in with the Pacinos, DeNiros, and Cazales of the '70s.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 231 | August 23, 2017 2:25 AM |
Could anyone look less desirable in a satin slip than Barbara Bel Geddes?
| by Anonymous | reply 232 | August 23, 2017 3:56 AM |
Gazzara v. Newman? Not much contest there.
But Gazzara certainly would have benefited overall from the demand for earthy, ethnic types that Brando had popularized years earlier.
| by Anonymous | reply 233 | August 23, 2017 4:08 PM |
Bacall was always known for her tawny complexion.
| by Anonymous | reply 234 | August 26, 2017 2:02 PM |
Don't forget her smoldering gaze!
| by Anonymous | reply 235 | August 26, 2017 2:42 PM |
I think that I caught a glimpse o the very young Dominique Dunne in one of the reels in which her dad was heavily featured. It makes since that she would be there since all the parties looked to be family friendly.
And yes! Nearly everyone is smoking. the women are slim, but neither super toned, nor anorexic lollipop heads. My overall observation is how very unaffected and at ease everyone seems to be.
Quite unlike today.
| by Anonymous | reply 236 | August 26, 2017 2:46 PM |
Dominick Dunne really was at the epicenter of that time--long before he turned to writing in order to make a living.
The experience he lived through after his daughter's murder was largely the reason [italic]Vanity Fair[/italic] assigned him to high profile murder cases, including OJ and the Menendez brothers. When Leslie Abramson (Edie Falco played her in the movie) was unsuccessfully defending Erik Menendez, she came to loathe Dunne; she told the press: "He wants to be Truman Capote, but he has neither Truman's taste nor his talent."
| by Anonymous | reply 237 | August 26, 2017 3:23 PM |
[quote]And yes! Nearly everyone is smoking. the women are slim, but neither super toned, nor anorexic lollipop heads. My overall observation is how very unaffected and at ease everyone seems to be.
The men and women seem more attractive than today's "stars" in looks, clothes, and attitude.
| by Anonymous | reply 238 | August 26, 2017 3:27 PM |
R236 I am Oh dearing myself for spelling "sense" as since.
Thank you for the restraint shown by those who resisted flagellation.
| by Anonymous | reply 239 | August 26, 2017 3:29 PM |
[quote]Ben Gazzara, who played Brick opposite Barbara Bel Geddes' Maggie the Cat, flew to Hollywood to meet with the producers of the film version of Cat on a Hot Tin Roof.
I'm surprised they auditioned him. I'm sure they wanted an All-American pretty boy from the start.
| by Anonymous | reply 240 | August 26, 2017 3:38 PM |
A pro forma courtesy for his having starred in the play.
| by Anonymous | reply 241 | August 26, 2017 3:40 PM |
Surely one of the reasons everyone is so relaxed as they are filmed by Roddy's camera is because they didn't anticipate the Internet and these home movies being watched and scrutinized by millions of people?
| by Anonymous | reply 242 | August 26, 2017 3:41 PM |
And Gazzara, though not Paul Newman, was a virile and talented young actor so MGM might have wanted a personal glimpse and audition tapes to consider him for other roles down the road.
| by Anonymous | reply 243 | August 26, 2017 3:43 PM |
Was Gazzarra screwing Elaine Stritch at the time? Maybe the studio didn't want her showing up on the set everyday.
"Herbie, ya know we'd like Gazzarra. He's a very talented boy. But, ye gods, that floozy girlfriend of his is a pain in the ass."
| by Anonymous | reply 244 | August 26, 2017 3:47 PM |
Mr. Williams, I just had a few changes to the script that I think would help Ben's character. Right here, he should say, "Maggie, you've always been a cunt. Now pass me my fucking crutch so I can shove it up your twat".
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 245 | August 26, 2017 3:50 PM |
There are nice photos at R230 if you click on it.
| by Anonymous | reply 246 | August 26, 2017 3:52 PM |
Yep. She looks like a handful.
He, on the other hand, looks hotter than we remember.
| by Anonymous | reply 247 | August 26, 2017 3:53 PM |
I recognized George Cukor at :16 and not after that' Marion Marshall (blonde) with blue kerchief on her head; she was married to Wagner at the time, gave him his first daughter, Katie in '64. Marion, who's still living was a starlet at Fox. She was good friends with Marilyn Monroe. She was also married to Stanley Donen before Wagner. Marion played opposite Jerry Lewis in a handful of films as his love interest.
| by Anonymous | reply 248 | August 26, 2017 3:55 PM |
I'm delighted to see the continued interest in this thread, thank you to all for your insightful comments.
Here is a lovely silent of the beautiful Garbo, bathed in wind. Subtitled in French, I invite translations.
The faption mentions Mercedes de Acosta, but I don't see her. Maybe she is holding the camera?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 249 | August 26, 2017 3:57 PM |
From the OP's original post, Betty and Rock are reciting a line from Written on the Wind:
"What a man says to a woman,
What a woman says to a man,
Are words too often written on the wind."
| by Anonymous | reply 251 | August 26, 2017 4:02 PM |
Marlene Dietrich denies having known Greta Garbo, though history has now established they were lovers. What I wouldn't give to have been witness to that pillow talk, the mind reels.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 252 | August 26, 2017 4:18 PM |
Marlene: "I want more! Again and again and again!"
Garbo: "I vant to be alone."
| by Anonymous | reply 253 | August 26, 2017 4:22 PM |
OP R249 let's just say that whoever is quoted in the subtitles was enthusiastically captivated by Garbo. Gushingly so.
| by Anonymous | reply 254 | August 26, 2017 4:25 PM |
Mercedes de Acosta was reputedly a lover of Garbo's as well. Could explain the gushing captions if MdM was the one making the movie. But I don't speak french, what do I know. Nada.
| by Anonymous | reply 255 | August 26, 2017 4:29 PM |
At R249 it says something about loving an image (whoever) created of Garbo, not the reality
| by Anonymous | reply 257 | August 26, 2017 4:33 PM |
It says many things R257.
| by Anonymous | reply 258 | August 26, 2017 4:35 PM |
R235, I had a smoldering gaze, as well.
| by Anonymous | reply 259 | August 26, 2017 4:43 PM |
Bless your heart, Nance.
In truth, the studio hacks labored many a long weekend trying to artfully turn "substantial ankles" into some sort of attribute.
| by Anonymous | reply 260 | August 26, 2017 4:48 PM |
"She could easily have been a pioneering football place-kicker, but was tapped instead by the silver screen and stardom!"
| by Anonymous | reply 261 | August 26, 2017 4:54 PM |
Mike Nichols is dressed for mid-winter. Everybody else is damn near naked or dressed for warm temps.
| by Anonymous | reply 262 | August 26, 2017 5:35 PM |
More home movies, with Judy, Thelma Ritter, Rory Calhoun and a very young and handsome RJ Wagner.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 263 | August 26, 2017 7:45 PM |
So many of these guys look far more desirable than today's stars probably in part because they're mysterious. The internet, Facebook and Twitter have forever ruined the allure of these stars from the 1960s.
We look at these movies and can identify the gays but I wonder if these guys were closeted to their straight friends. So many of them married women.
| by Anonymous | reply 264 | August 26, 2017 7:48 PM |
I've always considered Robert Wagner to be bland and boring, but he certainly was easy on the eyes. And the knees.
| by Anonymous | reply 265 | August 26, 2017 7:50 PM |
Can't remember anything that Wagner's done since that detective show back in 80s(!)--where he costarred with a hairdo.
| by Anonymous | reply 266 | August 26, 2017 8:22 PM |
Susan Hayward, Rory Calhoun, David Wayne, Thelma Ritter and Robert Wagner, making his screen debut, were the stars of one of my favorite films Fox's With a Song in My Heart. How great to see them all casually together, I assume for publicity for the picture, at r263. If you've ever seen the film, you know that Wagner was absolutely unforgettable in his 2 short (and almost silent) appearances. Talk about a star is born....even if he ultimately didn't make good on his promise.
But what did Judy do with John Lund? I would have thought that this was during those few years between Summer Stock at MGM and A Star Is Born at Warners when she was on a hiatus from films.
Was this all filmed in the same parking lot?
| by Anonymous | reply 267 | August 26, 2017 8:26 PM |
There is NO proof that Dietrich and Garbo ever met, much less had an affair.
| by Anonymous | reply 268 | August 26, 2017 8:33 PM |
Does Sal make a fisting gesture to the camera in r196, at around 1:20?
In our last thread about these movies some insisted that Sal's companion was Dennis Wilson of The Beach Boys.
| by Anonymous | reply 269 | August 26, 2017 8:55 PM |
NO, that was a "Crips" sign.
| by Anonymous | reply 270 | August 26, 2017 8:56 PM |
[quote] Here is a lovely silent of the beautiful Garbo, bathed in wind. Subtitled in French, I invite translations.
"I noticed how whimsical she was. Explaining my feelings for Greta is impossible. I do not understand them myself. My mind perceives the true person : a Swedish servant, with a face touched by the finger of God, obsessed with money, her health, sex, food and sleep. But her image tricks my mind. I love her. But I love the person I created, not the person she actually is."
De Acosta was one of the few who knew Garbo for several decades. She had a relationship with Garbo for a time until she got dumped Garbo's style, for no reason nor explanation. She took many pics of a topless Garbo during their holidays. Garbo continued to treat her a like a dog and De Acosta until the end of her life loved her. Anybody interested in their story should read Loving Garbo, as well as Mercedes' memoires and yes watch that documentary.
| by Anonymous | reply 271 | August 26, 2017 9:01 PM |
R271, thank you so much for the the translation. Even the style of writing is old world, breathtaking. I bet it was indeed de Acosta holding the camera. I will be reading the book you recommended. I know little about Garbo, thank you for the post.
| by Anonymous | reply 272 | August 26, 2017 9:39 PM |
When Mercedes wrote those words, was she out, so to speak? It was very brave to confess her love of Garbo so publically.
| by Anonymous | reply 273 | August 26, 2017 9:47 PM |
A bit more Garbo, Emil Jennings and Dolores del Rio
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 274 | August 26, 2017 10:04 PM |
The Fifties, with Jimmy Durante (what do we know about him?) and a woman I can't quite identify. Madeleine Carrol, maybe, who played the humorless boss to Sister Bertrille on The Flying Nun.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 275 | August 26, 2017 10:24 PM |
Madeleine Carroll was terrific in Sweet Bird of Youth and Cat on A Hot Tin Roof (she played Newman's sister-in-law, mother of the "no neck monsters," as Elizabeth Taylor would describe it); but I'll admit when I was kid I thought she was the strangest looking human I'd ever seen. There was something almost scary about her.
Thankfully, the nun's habit and wimple covered a lot of that up.
| by Anonymous | reply 276 | August 26, 2017 10:33 PM |
It's Madeleine [italic]Sherwood[/italic]
| by Anonymous | reply 277 | August 26, 2017 10:37 PM |
So wait, that WAS Madeleine Sherwood in the movie? I'm asking because it's driving me crazy.
| by Anonymous | reply 278 | August 26, 2017 10:39 PM |
Yes, that's her. And she looks like a giant encephalitic baby.
| by Anonymous | reply 280 | August 26, 2017 10:43 PM |
Delores del Rio's mole casts quite a shadow.
| by Anonymous | reply 281 | August 26, 2017 10:46 PM |
Carlos was beautiful.
And if you watched religiously, you'll remember there was an episode where he got shot in the butt with B-Bs (or something) which had to be removed by hand. Carlo's called it getting shot "in the beans."
| by Anonymous | reply 282 | August 26, 2017 10:46 PM |
R276, Madeleine Carroll was a beautiful English rose, who was at one time, the highest paid actress in the world. Hilarious that you would confuse her with the unpretty character actress, Madeleine Sherwood.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 284 | August 26, 2017 10:50 PM |
I love these movies. Never get tired of them. Everyone is so pretty. Kind of sad to see them so blithe, and to know they're mostly dead. R53, Bacall was only 40 there, so was a contemporary of some of the guys--Hudson, Newman--but about 10 years older than a lot of the women. She is quite annoying with her mugging, but in the scheme of things, who cares. I love Janice Rule. She became a therapist.
| by Anonymous | reply 285 | August 26, 2017 10:54 PM |
Actually, the mistake was in r275--which referenced Madeleine Sherwood's role in the Flying Nun.
| by Anonymous | reply 286 | August 26, 2017 10:54 PM |
Oh, and I like your diplomacy: "unpretty character actress."
Well put.
| by Anonymous | reply 287 | August 26, 2017 10:56 PM |
R284 I believe you meant to say Madeleine Carrol was a beautiful encephalitic English rose.
| by Anonymous | reply 288 | August 26, 2017 10:57 PM |
R275 presenting my bottom. Commence flogging.
| by Anonymous | reply 290 | August 26, 2017 10:59 PM |
Oh, R289, don't let's ask for the moon when we already have the stars.
| by Anonymous | reply 291 | August 26, 2017 11:02 PM |
It is I, r276, who was slandered, r290
But I will gladly accept your proffered bottom.
(r283 will also probably want in on the action, lol)
| by Anonymous | reply 292 | August 26, 2017 11:04 PM |
You're right, r291--let's not spoil things.
| by Anonymous | reply 293 | August 26, 2017 11:05 PM |
Madeleine Carroll was in The 39 Steps
| by Anonymous | reply 294 | August 26, 2017 11:12 PM |
And she landed hard on each one of them.
| by Anonymous | reply 295 | August 26, 2017 11:15 PM |
So...the big question is: which Madeleine is in r275's video?--because Sherwood undoubtedly appeared in two movies with Paul Newman, a frequent guest in the home movies.
| by Anonymous | reply 296 | August 26, 2017 11:17 PM |
If I can just stay quiet a little longer, everyone will forget I'm here.
| by Anonymous | reply 297 | August 26, 2017 11:21 PM |
Darling, [italic]no one[/italic] ever forgot you were there.
If Delores had ever forgotten her hat--and had returned to a party after taking her leave, my goodness--the things you would have overheard!
| by Anonymous | reply 298 | August 26, 2017 11:30 PM |
That was more than enough of Emil Jannings, R274. He couldn't make it in Hollywood after the advent of sound because of his heavy German accent, and moved to Germany, although he was Swiss born, where he acted in Nazi propaganda films and became unemployable after the war.
| by Anonymous | reply 299 | August 26, 2017 11:34 PM |
If you didn't know who these people were, and most outside of DL don't, these look like boring pool parties given by your grandparents. It's sad to think that Natalie and Sal being at the same party would suffer sad fates. It does look like the beach house from "Mildred Pierce". These films certainly take the glamour out of the celebrity life. I wonder if Roddy filmed any orgies?
His boyfriend was gorgeous.
| by Anonymous | reply 300 | August 26, 2017 11:35 PM |
I hope you die! I hope you die soon! I'll be waiting for you to die!
| by Anonymous | reply 301 | August 26, 2017 11:37 PM |
Remembering Madeleine Carroll
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 302 | August 26, 2017 11:38 PM |
r300, I posted further up about the Mildred Pierce connection; I'm pretty sure we're right. Either way that particular house was still standing well into the 80s.
I'm wondering if it was actually owned at one time by MGM--or one of the big pair of balls there.
| by Anonymous | reply 303 | August 26, 2017 11:41 PM |
'Balls,' says R303. Forgetting the power and wrath of a Hollywood goddess.
I am Madeleine Fallopia Sherwood and I'll eat your balls for breakfast.
| by Anonymous | reply 304 | August 26, 2017 11:47 PM |
Yes, Miss Sherwood, we honor your eggs, Miss Sherwood.
| by Anonymous | reply 305 | August 26, 2017 11:56 PM |
Madeleine Carroll was married to Sterling Hayden when he was an "up and coming" young actor.
| by Anonymous | reply 306 | August 26, 2017 11:59 PM |
I don't think the stars look unaffected and relaxed here. All the women are in full make-up and hair, and some point their toes (if they're seated) when the camera is on them. Natalie Wood, Lauren Bacall and Jane Fonda commence full on mugging when the camera is on them. If this were today, they'd be entertainment media there and the stars would be more relaxed on camera when the camera was on them specifically. I've noticed this in celebrity "home" movies (or off-set) from the 1930s to around the 1960s - all the stars mug when they see a camera. They curtsy, wink, stick out their tongue, roll their eyes, mug. Today they'd smile and acknowledge the camera but not go into a full song and dance routine. IMO Julie Andrews and Juliet Mills come off the most unaffected.
Roddy McDowell was everybody's best friend but I don't think they were all best friends with each other. I doubt his parties were THAT relaxing, but just a place to be seen, show off, be part of things, even though they might be jammed with your competition, somebody who was fucking your spouse or boyfriend, or had done. I don't think Hwood types relaxed around each other any more than they relaxed around the media.
| by Anonymous | reply 307 | August 27, 2017 12:08 AM |
Exactly. Parties populated by people who would give their back teeth (and some did) to be on camera, on stage, "the life" as it were, of the big party.
| by Anonymous | reply 308 | August 27, 2017 12:13 AM |
Tammy Grimes in pink bikini, white go go boots and beehive was definitely there to be seen. I think she was in L.A. for the Tammy Grimes Show, which was cancelled almost as soon as it aired. She had a face for the stage. Her daughter Amanda looks exactly like her dad, Christopher Plummer, except for sharing her mother's shark eyes. Although when you look back at photos of them when young, Plummer and Grimes resemble each other.
| by Anonymous | reply 309 | August 27, 2017 12:15 AM |
She had a face for radio.
| by Anonymous | reply 310 | August 27, 2017 12:20 AM |
^ Sherwood, you are such a bitch.
| by Anonymous | reply 311 | August 27, 2017 12:22 AM |
And sadly, Amanda got nothing of her father's looks.
And every ounce of fugly that could be wrung from Tammy's unfortunate-ness.
| by Anonymous | reply 312 | August 27, 2017 12:22 AM |
Jane Fonda and Natalie Wood are a bit more "on" but then they are the younger generation of that set. I like Julie Christie and Hope Lange
| by Anonymous | reply 313 | August 27, 2017 12:33 AM |
Imagine if Natalie had lived. She might be ready to scratch Fonda's eyes out, considering the state of Jane's thriving career--and the fact that Natalie's really did seem to be over back in the 80s.
| by Anonymous | reply 314 | August 27, 2017 12:46 AM |
Natalie Wood = "the pretty Nancy Davis"
| by Anonymous | reply 315 | August 27, 2017 12:46 AM |
In hell, R315. I would never sing for that cankled crone.
| by Anonymous | reply 316 | August 27, 2017 12:53 AM |
[quote]I'm wondering if it was actually owned at one time by MGM--or one of the big pair of balls there.
Since "Mildred" was a WB pic, I doubt it.
| by Anonymous | reply 317 | August 27, 2017 1:11 AM |
^^good one^^
To me, Wood, Fonda, and Bacall seem "on." Remick, Lange, Eggar seem relaxed and lovely. There sure are some hot guys lurking around. Anyone know what happened to bf Ed Rosenthal?
To see hot, watch Ben Gazzara in "The Strange One." Set at a military prep school in the South, and you can smell the hormones.
| by Anonymous | reply 318 | August 27, 2017 1:17 AM |
I think the reason Bacall and Wood (and Tony Perkins, too) seem so "on" and self-conscious is because they were intimate pals with Roddy and were more aware than the others that he was constantly filming them all for his private viewings.
They knew these films would ultimately have a large audience of his very gay pals who they didn't know. The others just thought the home movies were just that, an innocent lark.
| by Anonymous | reply 319 | August 27, 2017 1:23 AM |
So.......I don't think the blonde lady swimming with Jimmy Durante is either Madeleine.
She looks a little bit like M Carroll but I doubt that the cool blonde British and genteel Carroll would have hung out with the baggy pants and big-nosed Jimmy. David Niven or Ronald Colman, yes, but not Durante.
| by Anonymous | reply 320 | August 27, 2017 1:26 AM |
They seem relaxed and having fun to me. Of course people mug for a movie camera. Today's stars would be in full make up with false eyelashes and not so touchy-feely and would probably flash the peace sign. I'd bet their clothes would be super-revealing and ridiculous, too. Just my opinion,
| by Anonymous | reply 321 | August 27, 2017 1:29 AM |
R320, Well that just stinks. Don't bother me, boys, and waiter? I'll have a large order of Prognosis Negative.
| by Anonymous | reply 322 | August 27, 2017 1:32 AM |
Sal Mineo has a big fat boner at about 1:12 (at the fisting motion) in the footage at R196.
Shame on you queens for not raising the roof on this one.
| by Anonymous | reply 323 | August 27, 2017 1:32 AM |
We tried to raise the roof but that goddamn Nancy Reagan's ankles kept collapsing.
| by Anonymous | reply 324 | August 27, 2017 1:36 AM |
That's not a mole on Dolores Del Rio's face but a large black polka dot on a barely perceptible veil on her hat that casts a shadow like a beauty spot on her face. In certain shots there seem to be two spots on her face which would be another shadow of the spot, from a second light source.
This was a brief fad in ladies' hats of the 1920s that didn't last long......for obvious reasons.
If you look at other photos of Del Rio, who was considered the most beautiful actress in silent films, you'll not see a mole.
| by Anonymous | reply 325 | August 27, 2017 1:42 AM |
I am not a polka-dot! I am a human being!
| by Anonymous | reply 326 | August 27, 2017 1:53 AM |
[quote]Since "Mildred" was a WB pic, I doubt it.
Robert Osborne lives!
| by Anonymous | reply 327 | August 27, 2017 1:55 AM |
Joan Crawford's linebacker-inspired fur coat in "Mildred Pierce"--which measured five feet across the shoulders.
| by Anonymous | reply 329 | August 27, 2017 2:07 AM |
Must I apologize for the thread deviation or will most of you happily allow me that.
Carlos. You got me started on Carlos. Alejandro Rey, at 0:36.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 330 | August 27, 2017 5:40 AM |
I read somewhere that the director Michael Curtiz owned the house at the time "Mildred Pierce" was made at that's why it was used.
| by Anonymous | reply 331 | August 27, 2017 7:37 AM |
The interiors were probably on a soundstage.
| by Anonymous | reply 332 | August 27, 2017 8:39 AM |
Wow! The entire Mayweather-McGregor fight is linked at the end of the first beach party reel at OP!
So far I had only been able to see highlights and postfight interviews.
| by Anonymous | reply 333 | August 27, 2017 9:31 AM |
And you underestimate the drawing power of a package that looks like a chipmunk reclining in a hammock (hello there, Mr. McGregor!) if you think that most here won't care about the fight.
| by Anonymous | reply 336 | August 27, 2017 1:11 PM |
Was Tammy Grimes married to Christopher Plummer during the filming of The Sound of Music? If so, I'm surprised you didn't make an appearance in the film. She would have made a nifty nun.
| by Anonymous | reply 337 | August 27, 2017 3:19 PM |
I can't find Ty Power presenting hole in any of these clips.
| by Anonymous | reply 338 | August 27, 2017 7:32 PM |
Not sure it's the same Malibu house, but if it is, it was owned in the 40s by "Mildred Pierce" director Michael Curtiz as Monte's Malibu home in the same film.
Sadly, it was damaged in a storm in 1983 and washed away. It is so chic in the film. I believe some of the interiors were shot there also.
| by Anonymous | reply 339 | August 27, 2017 8:48 PM |
Roddy's house has a great beachside location, obviously, but it's otherwise rather characterless, looking like most houses along that strip of the Pacific Ocean.
It might look like the Mildred Pierce house but so did a few hundred others in Malibu.
| by Anonymous | reply 340 | August 28, 2017 1:38 AM |
I know her name but I don't think I've ever seen her in anything but christ that Hope Lange was gorgeous.
| by Anonymous | reply 341 | August 28, 2017 1:46 AM |
She was a staple on TV in late 60s or early 70s in "The Ghost and Mrs. Muir." And agree that she was a beauty.
| by Anonymous | reply 342 | August 28, 2017 1:49 AM |
Try Peyton Place and The Best of Everything for a Hope Lange fix R341
| by Anonymous | reply 343 | August 28, 2017 1:50 AM |
There was a longtime local LA newscaster (now retired) who tried to get a little bit of Hope's shine by changing her name early in her career.
| by Anonymous | reply 344 | August 28, 2017 1:54 AM |
And A Pocketful of Miracles and Bus Stop!
| by Anonymous | reply 345 | August 28, 2017 1:56 AM |
And Wild in the Country, with Elvis. And she's the best thing in The Young Lions. And in a very early TV movie about gay men--That Certain Summer. Everything I've heard about her says she was a class act.
| by Anonymous | reply 346 | August 28, 2017 2:02 AM |
Hope was the poor man's Eva Marie Saint.
| by Anonymous | reply 348 | August 28, 2017 3:17 AM |
Charles Nelson Reilly told a very funny story in his show. He says he and his mother were at a party at Hope Lange's, who he adored, and Hope said to him, "Charles! Your mother is the WORST PERSON I have EVER MET!"
It's a very funny bit in his show "The Life of Reilly" which used to be on Youtube in little pieces. It's worth seeing.
| by Anonymous | reply 349 | August 28, 2017 7:40 AM |
She looks quite modern in her green outfit at her Easter party.
| by Anonymous | reply 350 | August 28, 2017 7:56 AM |
I think Hope and so many of the younger women in these home movies look "modern" to us is because their makeup is minimal, their hair is relatively relaxed and undone and their clothes are very casual and informal.
The very same women, all tarted up for a movie premiere, would probably appear older, harder and more "1960s".
| by Anonymous | reply 351 | August 28, 2017 2:03 PM |
"The Life of Reilly" is one of the best things I've watched in the last ten years. I only knew Charles from Match Game repeats. I thought I'd watch about 15 minutes of it and get tired of his shtick. Holy fuck it was funny as hell.
| by Anonymous | reply 352 | August 28, 2017 2:09 PM |
A friend of mine, now deceased, swears that Christopher Plummer cruised him relentlessly in a Greenwich bar back in the late 1950s.
| by Anonymous | reply 353 | August 28, 2017 7:25 PM |
Greenwich Village, of course.
| by Anonymous | reply 354 | August 28, 2017 7:26 PM |
There's a pretty funny photo compilation floating around the web that has "Max" riding "Georg" like his life depended on it.
| by Anonymous | reply 355 | August 28, 2017 7:53 PM |
Clark Gable died only months before the birth of his son.
Footage from his son's christening features Marilyn, Jack Benny, Hedda Hopper & Louella Parsons, Fred Astaire, an impossibly handsome Cesar Romero and someone who looks to me to be Rose Kennedy. There are others, too, who I can't identify. Robert Stack, maybe? Sinatra?
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 356 | August 28, 2017 7:58 PM |
Who was Cesar Romero's beard?
| by Anonymous | reply 357 | August 28, 2017 10:27 PM |
Tallulah, Gish, Katharine Cornell, Norma Shearer, Gloria Swanson...
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 358 | August 28, 2017 10:45 PM |
That is Robert Stack.
Hedda must have been pissed that Louella wouldn't let her near Gable Jr.
I'm shocked there aren't more famous faces there.
Astaire? Jack Benny? Did they even work with Gable??
| by Anonymous | reply 359 | August 29, 2017 12:47 AM |
Marilyn arrives alone, imagine that.
| by Anonymous | reply 360 | August 29, 2017 12:54 AM |
I love this Lucy and Desi one. You can tell she is still clearly in love with him after all the intervening years. This one puts a lump in my throat.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 361 | August 29, 2017 12:57 AM |
I can't answer for Astaire, but Jack Benny is there for the complimentary buffet.
| by Anonymous | reply 362 | August 29, 2017 1:00 AM |
Spectacular, r358! And how nice to see all of Noel's Bright Young Things captioned with their names.
John"Jack" Wilson was quite a hottie.
| by Anonymous | reply 363 | August 29, 2017 1:00 AM |
Was the baptism held at Our Lady of the Cadillacs?
| by Anonymous | reply 364 | August 29, 2017 1:03 AM |
R321 most of the women in these home movies ARE wearing false eyelashes and make-up. They've certainly back combed their hair. Suzanne Pleshette didn't wake up with her hair that high and piled up. And look at how back combed Jane Fonda's is. I think everybody looks better because it's old kodachrome film, and because even the casual clothes back then were more universally flattering than today. Jax made those slacks that highlighted a woman's waist and ass, even the bikinis has a few darts and some structure. So the clothes fit. Today it's lycra everywhere, and I also think back then women knew what flattered them.
And everyone has some little scarf tied around their hair, which is piled up (Samantha Eggar). This was all put together in the mirror before they ever got out of the car at Roddy's.
I did notice that as pretty as she is, Tuesday Weld had some pretty short legs. I read up on her after watching the home movie. She was only 22 in 1965. She was making "Lord Love a Duck" with Roddy McDowall. She was so talented, even in all the teen sex-kitten roles she was playing then. Her mother was a piece of work - what a dysfunctional relationship. What female movie stars DIDN'T have smother mothers?
| by Anonymous | reply 365 | August 29, 2017 1:07 AM |
Fantastic addition, R361, thank you!
| by Anonymous | reply 366 | August 29, 2017 1:09 AM |
That baptism looked more like it was at Our Lady of the Used Car Lot.
You'll note Loretta Young did not attend.
| by Anonymous | reply 367 | August 29, 2017 1:27 AM |
I wanted to and we were headed there, but Julie Andrews swore her wagon ran out of gas.
| by Anonymous | reply 368 | August 29, 2017 1:46 AM |
Family friends in MA, where she lived in her youth, did major eye rolls about Tammy Grimes. She was perceived as laughably affected and superior in a way that wasn't considered charming in her personal life around town. These weren't highly conservative, bitchy, critical people by nature - someone had to stir them up to get that sort of reaction. Perhaps they didn't understand a true eccentric, or perhaps they were spot on. She was one of those actors who found a niche (stage was apparently her best venue) of some deserved success but was an odd and not beloved 'personality' during her career.
| by Anonymous | reply 369 | August 29, 2017 1:47 AM |
Interesting r369. I always assumed she was British for some reason. She sure was an acquired taste, that's for sure.
| by Anonymous | reply 370 | August 29, 2017 1:49 AM |
Aw, the Lucy / Desi footage does bring a lump to the throat. It's obvious she still loves him, and you can see the charming side of him that made her love him.
I have a soft spot for Desi Arnaz because he was a show business genius, the real mover behind Desilu. I also love him because Frank Sinatra was afraid of him, even though Arnaz doesn't seem to have been a douche (other than womanizing). I just think he has more cajones and didn't give any fucks about Sinatra while the other stooges who ran with Sinatra were scared.
Tammy Grimes and Christopher Plummer were long divorced when he filmed the Sound of Music. In fact he was married as second time and separated from THAT one. According to his autobiography, he and Grimes married when she became pregnant and her mother didn't want an unwed mother for a daughter, and he didn't mind, thought it might be a good experience. Their attempts at married life were fitful at best - don't think they ever even pretended to be faithful. He had a fling with Joan Greenwood when they were filming Stage Struck in New York (1958) while married to Grimes, and Grimes was touring and had her own stuff on the side. From Plummer she moved onto Rex Harrison (as an affair)
| by Anonymous | reply 371 | August 29, 2017 1:51 AM |
Agree completely about Lucy and Desi. And speaking of whom, Caesar Romero says that although Desi wasn't gay, he relented and let Caesar blow him--after much importuning from Caesar, who sure was a looker back in the day. Later on though, he had decidedly set up permanent camp in [italic]camp.[/italic]
| by Anonymous | reply 372 | August 29, 2017 1:57 AM |
R371, will you elaborate on Sinatra's fear of Desi, please? Intrigued.
| by Anonymous | reply 373 | August 29, 2017 1:58 AM |
10 bucks says it had something to do with Cuba--and the Mob.
| by Anonymous | reply 374 | August 29, 2017 2:00 AM |
I want to know more about Julie Andrew's love-mobile.
| by Anonymous | reply 375 | August 29, 2017 2:06 AM |
She tried it with me once, R375.
*buurp
| by Anonymous | reply 376 | August 29, 2017 2:14 AM |
Marilyn arriving alone is bittersweet and quite lovely. Thank you.
| by Anonymous | reply 377 | August 29, 2017 9:16 AM |
R346, Both Hope Lange and Roddy gave eulogies at Natalie Wood's funeral.
| by Anonymous | reply 378 | August 29, 2017 9:51 AM |
That r361 Lucy & Desi clip had me simultaneously verklempt and laughing.
How poignant.
| by Anonymous | reply 379 | August 29, 2017 12:49 PM |
This is as good a time as any for a short break while we await more movies.
Won't you please crank up the hi-fi and join me.
Offsite Link| by Anonymous | reply 380 | August 29, 2017 7:03 PM |
I OP'd this thread a few years ago and want to share it with new DLers and those who missed it the last time around. I know, I know, this topic isn't new to DL, so what. It's great Sunday afternoon nostalgia. Enjoy.
| by Anonymous | reply 381 | August 4, 2019 7:42 PM |
[quote]I know, I know, this topic isn't new to DL
No kidding! It sure is stale.
| by Anonymous | reply 382 | August 4, 2019 7:44 PM |
I love how relaxed everyone is in those home movies. I think Julie Andrews and Jane Fonda are the only ones in them still living. I wonder if they have ever seen them?
| by Anonymous | reply 383 | August 4, 2019 7:51 PM |
They ARE relaxed, r383, and because we never see anything anymore that isn't pre-planned, scripted and story-boarded ahead of time, these are treasures with a fresh appeal. Unlike charmer r382.
| by Anonymous | reply 384 | August 4, 2019 7:58 PM |
R384. I agree. I also think about where each person was in their career. Julie Andrews in 1965 was riding a wave. She had just won the oscar for Mary Poppins and The Sound if Music had just been released. Jane Fonda on the other and was only being cast in fluff like Cat Ballou. She was also married to that creep Roger Vadim at this point. I expect she was already starving herself .
| by Anonymous | reply 385 | August 4, 2019 8:20 PM |
WHET that beach house? Would like to know the history of that place.
Dammit, Rodney, wake your lazy dead ass up and tell us.
| by Anonymous | reply 386 | August 4, 2019 8:59 PM |
R386, somebody upthread wrote that the beach house was washed away in a storm in the 80's: a fluke, a coincidence, an impossible tragedy. No one could have seen this coming. Right, Jill? Chris? Somebody?
| by Anonymous | reply 387 | August 4, 2019 10:25 PM |
R358 No crowds in Egypt back then.
| by Anonymous | reply 388 | August 4, 2019 11:04 PM |
When are we going to see Roddy's diaries!?
| by Anonymous | reply 389 | August 4, 2019 11:11 PM |
Roddie rented the house for 3 months in the summer. It had a great beach and was a typical malibu house at the time. It was before the era of teardowns and 7000 sq ft being built on 4o ft wide lots. Rock hudson rented a house in malibu in the late 50 s right after splitting from Phyllis. In typical rock fashion it was right in the middle of gay will rogers beach. At the time of filming in 1965 he was already living in the BH house. His furniture was massive because that was what he liked and some of it came from the set of pillow talk. I found it interesting the camera following Cukor out to his rolls royce parked on PCH.......U dont know who the lady he was with was.......obviously a former film star, deloros del rio or somebody similiar. The footage was fasciniating and Roddy did a big favor by keeping this for history. Roddy s boyfriend of the time was probably the best looking guy of the bunch, film stars included.
| by Anonymous | reply 390 | August 5, 2019 8:26 AM |
Kirk Douglas has chicken legs and he's quite fem in that clip.
| by Anonymous | reply 391 | August 5, 2019 8:05 PM |
R389 I think I read somewhere that he wanted to release the truth on Hollywood a hundred years after his death because by then everyone who was around back then would be gone and also it would be a courteous act to the old Stars and their families to wait after they're dead. But I think it's kind of stupid because nobody is going to be interested in old Hollywood gossip in a hundred years from now. The youth of today are generally disinterested in old Hollywood stuff, it's mostly just older people that are still attentive and I'm guessing by then they won't be around too.
| by Anonymous | reply 392 | August 5, 2019 8:25 PM |
